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Leslie Valley

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36. You don't really know anything about how our Senate works, do you?

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Wed Mar 6, 2013, 04:06 PM

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rand paul filibustering brennan confirmation over drone strikes.... [View all] spanone Mar 2013 OP

Should read: "Rand Paul grifting his little heart out" FSogol Mar 2013 #1

Good for him Mojorabbit Mar 2013 #163

Fuck Rand Paul FSogol Mar 2013 #169

Not a drone supporter here. Your MMV. nt Mojorabbit Mar 2013 #174

I do not have a problem with this Angry Dragon Mar 2013 #2

I'm rather conflicted as well... hlthe2b Mar 2013 #4

I am in exactly the same place as you are on this issue . . . markpkessinger Mar 2013 #46

I do. Nowhere in the Constitution is it contemplated that one senator would be able to ... GodlessBiker Mar 2013 #12

He is doing it the correct way ......... he is up there talking Angry Dragon Mar 2013 #17

Yep. 1983law Mar 2013 #21

I believe you to be correct. timdog44 Mar 2013 #25

"It is bad enough that...CA has the same voting power in the Senate as...ND" demwing Mar 2013 #47

Nowhere in the Constitution is it contemplated . . . markpkessinger Mar 2013 #91

Paul is making important points dixiegrrrrl Mar 2013 #146

It is the wrong way to deal with it BlueStreak Mar 2013 #39

At least he's doing it right. bluedigger Mar 2013 #3

At least he's doing it the right way, just like Jimmy Stewart in Mr. Smith goes to Washington. Pararescue Mar 2013 #5

He's the furthest thing from Jimmy Stewart or Mr. Smith babylonsister Mar 2013 #10

I'm only comparing him to what Jimmy Stewert did in a movie Pararescue Mar 2013 #13

Fuck Rand Paul. MineralMan Mar 2013 #6

Very poor attitude Angry Dragon Mar 2013 #18

Perhaps, but that is my opinion of Rand Paul and MineralMan Mar 2013 #19

+1 bluedigger Mar 2013 #22

I don't like him either. timdog44 Mar 2013 #34

+1 n/t markpkessinger Mar 2013 #93

I wouldn't mind if he talks for hours. This is what filibustering is all about. Harry Reid should ReformedGOPer Mar 2013 #7

And will we see any of the spineless Dems stand up with him to add their voices BlueStreak Mar 2013 #41

why should someone who supports the President's nomination onenote Mar 2013 #63

It is called principles. And on principle, no Democrat BlueStreak Mar 2013 #71

Well, it looks like virtually all Democratic Senators support Brennan onenote Mar 2013 #80

Yes. I am suspicious of all of them -- from both parties. BlueStreak Mar 2013 #108

And all of the Democratic senators you named will vote for cloture and confirmation onenote Mar 2013 #110

Principles are relative things when you are in the Congress. BlueStreak Mar 2013 #149

I'm curious as to what sort of reprisal you think Wyden has to fear from "ruthless" President Obama onenote Mar 2013 #150

It is obvious that Obama is all in on unlimited drone assassinations BlueStreak Mar 2013 #171

You've got to learn the sarcasm thingie onenote Mar 2013 #175

I don't expect that Obama will do that, but he is setting up a doctrine that ends up there BlueStreak Mar 2013 #182

Paul is wrong. onenote Mar 2013 #183

Without due process, how do you know that Fonda wasn't planning an imminent attack? BlueStreak Mar 2013 #184

Do you believe that lethal force can never be used against a US citizen on US soil without a trial? onenote Mar 2013 #185

We are talking about assassinations without due process. BlueStreak Mar 2013 #188

Which is why folks like Ron Wyden are satisfied with the administration's position onenote Mar 2013 #189

Wyden is just speaking right now. Mass Mar 2013 #73

At least one person with some power disagrees about drones in the USA. OGKush Mar 2013 #8

He'd be up there masturbating away no matter what. JoePhilly Mar 2013 #84

I don't always masturbate, but when I do its for a good cause. OGKush Mar 2013 #167

Unless you do it in public. JoePhilly Mar 2013 #187

"Even a blind hog..." 99Forever Mar 2013 #9

I listened to him for about an hour - he's actually giving a great speech 1-Old-Man Mar 2013 #11

I've been listening for about 20 Minutes 1KansasDem Mar 2013 #14

i actually GRENADE Mar 2013 #32

Post removed Post removed Mar 2013 #147

This post is like Cirque du So-What Mar 2013 #148

+1...nt SidDithers Mar 2013 #155

droning on . . . bigtree Mar 2013 #15

I am shocked. He is actually good at this Mass Mar 2013 #16

Since he's making good points... Malik Agar Mar 2013 #20

Disgusted at the "Democrats" praising Mr. Paul. nt Comrade_McKenzie Mar 2013 #23

Disgusted at the "progressives" that are opposed to this fillibuster. DesMoinesDem Mar 2013 #27

Have you tried crying about it? ForgoTheConsequence Mar 2013 #31

You don't really know anything about how our Senate works, do you? Leslie Valley Mar 2013 #36

Your concern is so noted. nt Common Sense Party Mar 2013 #132

update: pundits on m$nbc opining that he's playing to his base re: 2016 spanone Mar 2013 #24

He's playing everyone ProSense Mar 2013 #26

agreed. spanone Mar 2013 #28

a senator speaks out against drone murders and gets slammed on DU. how quaint msongs Mar 2013 #29

it appears he has quite a bit of support here. ??? spanone Mar 2013 #30

I think it's more the issue has quite a bit of support here. AtheistCrusader Mar 2013 #114

Fuck Ron Paul. Double Fuck Rand Paul Stinky The Clown Mar 2013 #33

i do agree GRENADE Mar 2013 #35

We've come a long way, Baby! kenny blankenship Mar 2013 #173

so, how could he vote against "Violence Against Women Reauthorization Act of 2013" spanone Mar 2013 #37

To be fair, Rand Paul does not approve of killing women with drones. BlueStreak Mar 2013 #42

is that a fact? spanone Mar 2013 #43

yes, I assume so, unless it is approved by his committee. BlueStreak Mar 2013 #51

Here's the problem I have with Congress BlueStreak Mar 2013 #54

The problem with both father and son Paul is that they are batshit crazy, racist RWs malaise Mar 2013 #113

My comment further up the thread 1KansasDem Mar 2013 #38

He's doing something that should be done by a Democrat. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2013 #40

I hope Ron Wyden joins him. NOVA_Dem Mar 2013 #53

The fastest way to get the Republicans to stop filibustering this issue BlueStreak Mar 2013 #59

True. What a shame. nt Union Scribe Mar 2013 #177

more rethugs joining in....utah sen. lee, asshole cruz spanone Mar 2013 #44

Not conflicted whatsoever nadinbrzezinski Mar 2013 #45

What's he ProSense Mar 2013 #48

You missed his father taking the neocon project appart nadinbrzezinski Mar 2013 #49

Ron Paul ProSense Mar 2013 #52

And your point? nadinbrzezinski Mar 2013 #55

My point is that he's a racist asshole and a fraud. ProSense Mar 2013 #65

And none is disagreeing nadinbrzezinski Mar 2013 #67

Oh please, ProSense Mar 2013 #74

Yup, my country, in this case nadinbrzezinski Mar 2013 #76

Monkey pancakes. n/t ProSense Mar 2013 #77

Blind partisanship nadinbrzezinski Mar 2013 #83

Post removed Post removed Mar 2013 #56

This message was self-deleted by its author ProSense Mar 2013 #60

Nuh-Uh. No you don't. MineralMan Mar 2013 #62

Oh I know... nadinbrzezinski Mar 2013 #70

Well, no wonder you support an idiot like Rand Paul. n/t ProSense Mar 2013 #75

Yup, I will be moving to KY to vote fr him nadinbrzezinski Mar 2013 #78

Maybe you should ProSense Mar 2013 #81

Keep digging nadinbrzezinski Mar 2013 #85

LOL! ProSense Mar 2013 #92

Are you also accusing ProSense of being a paid shill? MineralMan Mar 2013 #79

Totally with you. AtheistCrusader Mar 2013 #116

Fuck Rand Paul...nt SidDithers Mar 2013 #50

And the father who engendered him, too. MineralMan Mar 2013 #57

update: Sens. Mike Lee (R-Utah), Ted Cruz (R-Texas) and Jerry Moran (R-Kan.). spanone Mar 2013 #58

Now Senator Wyden 1KansasDem Mar 2013 #66

If Bush was President, they wouldn't be doing this. Cali_Democrat Mar 2013 #69

Of course, if Bush was president, Democrats would be opposed. BlueCheese Mar 2013 #142

Fuck Rand Paul, but in this he happens to be right. Autumn Mar 2013 #61

As I said above, the Paul's re stuck clocks nadinbrzezinski Mar 2013 #72

GOOD FOR HIM. woo me with science Mar 2013 #64

No, ProSense Mar 2013 #68

Your utter lack of principles has tripped you up once again cthulu2016 Mar 2013 #82

"utter lack of principles?" MineralMan Mar 2013 #86

Rubin should as well nadinbrzezinski Mar 2013 #87

Uh, ProSense Mar 2013 #89

My understanding is that Wyden has stated he will vote to confirm Brennan onenote Mar 2013 #90

Not only that, ProSense Mar 2013 #94

My understanding is that your observation is irrelevant cthulu2016 Mar 2013 #101

Except Wyden isn't trying to filibuster onenote Mar 2013 #103

Commercials run as scheduled. woo me with science Mar 2013 #99

Awww, everybody knows Wyden is just a freeper mole! Fuddnik Mar 2013 #109

Look how offensive and juvenile the propaganda is forced to become, woo me with science Mar 2013 #96

Oooh, I love the attempts to frame nonsense as a highly intellectual arugment. ProSense Mar 2013 #97

I love attempts to double-talk and justify indefensible bullshit. Fuddnik Mar 2013 #115

Hey, ProSense Mar 2013 #121

Is there anyone in this thread that thinks that Mitt Romney would have a different drone policy? onenote Mar 2013 #88

Does anyone think that DU wouldn't be outraged if Romney had been given those powers? Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2013 #95

Some have an incredible ability to ignore their cognitive dissonance. NOVA_Dem Mar 2013 #98

I've never doubted that the President has the authority claimed by Holder onenote Mar 2013 #102

If there was poll of Democrats and Progressives in 2005... NOVA_Dem Mar 2013 #106

Not a chance. onenote Mar 2013 #120

Bullshit, and you know it. NOVA_Dem Mar 2013 #126

I quoted from the DOJ memo and Holder's letter onenote Mar 2013 #128

Yesterday...NY TIMES MARCH 5, 2013 NOVA_Dem Mar 2013 #134

and exactly what does the additional information say onenote Mar 2013 #140

Anything else you want to pull out of a hat? NOVA_Dem Mar 2013 #152

Keep telling yourself that. You haven't provided diddly squat onenote Mar 2013 #157

You're saying that DU is to the right of GWB on Civil Liberties. NOVA_Dem Mar 2013 #164

No. I'm saying some DUers are buying into the BS that Paul and Cruz are shoveling out. onenote Mar 2013 #180

Paul asked if the same rules used for overseas drone attacks applied in the US. NOVA_Dem Mar 2013 #181

I predict none of the "newly minted" Paulites on this thread can answer that. Robb Mar 2013 #111

Oh, rand paul and co. wouldn't be up there Cha Mar 2013 #104

911....was congress outraged over the fact that bu$h* was prepared to shoot down flight 93? spanone Mar 2013 #100

Imminent threat. AtheistCrusader Mar 2013 #117

not really. one man's 'imminent threat' is another man's 'extraordinary circumstance' spanone Mar 2013 #118

If you say so. AtheistCrusader Mar 2013 #119

that was easy!!! spanone Mar 2013 #138

ACLU AtheistCrusader Mar 2013 #144

If Brennan had anything to do with torture, if he even knew JDPriestly Mar 2013 #105

On the plus side, he's making LaRouche seem less batty. Robb Mar 2013 #107

Post removed Post removed Mar 2013 #112

A stopped clock is right twice a day, MadHound Mar 2013 #122

Is he ProSense Mar 2013 #123

No, because Obama has already killed US citizens in drone strikes, MadHound Mar 2013 #124

Obama killed Americans in their homes? ProSense Mar 2013 #125

He has killed US citizens abroad, without due process, MadHound Mar 2013 #127

No, ProSense Mar 2013 #131

US citizens on paper only. Comrade_McKenzie Mar 2013 #143

Al-Alawki and his son were both born in the US, MadHound Mar 2013 #145

He's as boring as drying spit, but good for him. Common Sense Party Mar 2013 #129

A few thoughts... davidthegnome Mar 2013 #130

Rand Paul asked the following question in his letter to Holder: onenote Mar 2013 #137

He could have been more specific davidthegnome Mar 2013 #141

FFS, look at all the supporters of that racist gay bashing douchebag conservative. great white snark Mar 2013 #133

Who cares? Malik Agar Mar 2013 #135

Agreement on one particular issue... davidthegnome Mar 2013 #136

Rand Paul is an ass... truebluegreen Mar 2013 #139

Watching this thread today, 1KansasDem Mar 2013 #151

Maybe, instead of "Fuck Rand Paul", they should be saying "Fuck the Constitution". nt Bonobo Mar 2013 #159

I can't believe post #153 is hidden. NOVA_Dem Mar 2013 #166

Post removed Post removed Mar 2013 #153

There are lots of places to support Rand Paul 100% ucrdem Mar 2013 #161

'There are lots of places to support Rand Paul 100%' bwahahahahahahaaaaa spanone Mar 2013 #168

What's funny? ucrdem Mar 2013 #170

At least he's not doing it like Republicans normally do it.... vi5 Mar 2013 #154

fuck rand paul d_b Mar 2013 #156

He is not doing this over drone strikes krawhitham Mar 2013 #158

Still talking n/t skorpo Mar 2013 #162

I'm proud right now of Paul, Wyden LittleBlue Mar 2013 #160

"this goes beyond politics to the foundations of this country" +1000 bubbayugga Mar 2013 #165

Certainly the Bill of Rights should mean something re: assassinating Americans with no oversight BlueStreak Mar 2013 #172

You don't seem to realize that Wyden said he's satisfied with Holder's explanation onenote Mar 2013 #176

Well said. nt woo me with science Mar 2013 #178

11 hours and counting. Gotta JimDandy Mar 2013 #179

kick woo me with science Mar 2013 #186