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timdog44

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25. I believe you to be correct.

Wed Mar 6, 2013, 03:57 PM

Mar 2013

Filibuster is to get up and speak and speak and speak. If that is how he wants to spend his time and ours, reflects on him and his political views and should be out in the open.

As to Brennen, I don't know if I have an opinion. I guess the CIA is needed, it is just the way I perceive its actions, overwhelms my thoughts about who really should be in charge.

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rand paul filibustering brennan confirmation over drone strikes.... [View all] spanone Mar 2013 OP

Should read: "Rand Paul grifting his little heart out" FSogol Mar 2013 #1

Good for him Mojorabbit Mar 2013 #163

Fuck Rand Paul FSogol Mar 2013 #169

Not a drone supporter here. Your MMV. nt Mojorabbit Mar 2013 #174

I do not have a problem with this Angry Dragon Mar 2013 #2

I'm rather conflicted as well... hlthe2b Mar 2013 #4

I am in exactly the same place as you are on this issue . . . markpkessinger Mar 2013 #46

I do. Nowhere in the Constitution is it contemplated that one senator would be able to ... GodlessBiker Mar 2013 #12

He is doing it the correct way ......... he is up there talking Angry Dragon Mar 2013 #17

Yep. 1983law Mar 2013 #21

I believe you to be correct. timdog44 Mar 2013 #25

"It is bad enough that...CA has the same voting power in the Senate as...ND" demwing Mar 2013 #47

Nowhere in the Constitution is it contemplated . . . markpkessinger Mar 2013 #91

Paul is making important points dixiegrrrrl Mar 2013 #146

It is the wrong way to deal with it BlueStreak Mar 2013 #39

At least he's doing it right. bluedigger Mar 2013 #3

At least he's doing it the right way, just like Jimmy Stewart in Mr. Smith goes to Washington. Pararescue Mar 2013 #5

He's the furthest thing from Jimmy Stewart or Mr. Smith babylonsister Mar 2013 #10

I'm only comparing him to what Jimmy Stewert did in a movie Pararescue Mar 2013 #13

Fuck Rand Paul. MineralMan Mar 2013 #6

Very poor attitude Angry Dragon Mar 2013 #18

Perhaps, but that is my opinion of Rand Paul and MineralMan Mar 2013 #19

+1 bluedigger Mar 2013 #22

I don't like him either. timdog44 Mar 2013 #34

+1 n/t markpkessinger Mar 2013 #93

I wouldn't mind if he talks for hours. This is what filibustering is all about. Harry Reid should ReformedGOPer Mar 2013 #7

And will we see any of the spineless Dems stand up with him to add their voices BlueStreak Mar 2013 #41

why should someone who supports the President's nomination onenote Mar 2013 #63

It is called principles. And on principle, no Democrat BlueStreak Mar 2013 #71

Well, it looks like virtually all Democratic Senators support Brennan onenote Mar 2013 #80

Yes. I am suspicious of all of them -- from both parties. BlueStreak Mar 2013 #108

And all of the Democratic senators you named will vote for cloture and confirmation onenote Mar 2013 #110

Principles are relative things when you are in the Congress. BlueStreak Mar 2013 #149

I'm curious as to what sort of reprisal you think Wyden has to fear from "ruthless" President Obama onenote Mar 2013 #150

It is obvious that Obama is all in on unlimited drone assassinations BlueStreak Mar 2013 #171

You've got to learn the sarcasm thingie onenote Mar 2013 #175

I don't expect that Obama will do that, but he is setting up a doctrine that ends up there BlueStreak Mar 2013 #182

Paul is wrong. onenote Mar 2013 #183

Without due process, how do you know that Fonda wasn't planning an imminent attack? BlueStreak Mar 2013 #184

Do you believe that lethal force can never be used against a US citizen on US soil without a trial? onenote Mar 2013 #185

We are talking about assassinations without due process. BlueStreak Mar 2013 #188

Which is why folks like Ron Wyden are satisfied with the administration's position onenote Mar 2013 #189

Wyden is just speaking right now. Mass Mar 2013 #73

At least one person with some power disagrees about drones in the USA. OGKush Mar 2013 #8

He'd be up there masturbating away no matter what. JoePhilly Mar 2013 #84

I don't always masturbate, but when I do its for a good cause. OGKush Mar 2013 #167

Unless you do it in public. JoePhilly Mar 2013 #187

"Even a blind hog..." 99Forever Mar 2013 #9

I listened to him for about an hour - he's actually giving a great speech 1-Old-Man Mar 2013 #11

I've been listening for about 20 Minutes 1KansasDem Mar 2013 #14

i actually GRENADE Mar 2013 #32

Post removed Post removed Mar 2013 #147

This post is like Cirque du So-What Mar 2013 #148

+1...nt SidDithers Mar 2013 #155

droning on . . . bigtree Mar 2013 #15

I am shocked. He is actually good at this Mass Mar 2013 #16

Since he's making good points... Malik Agar Mar 2013 #20

Disgusted at the "Democrats" praising Mr. Paul. nt Comrade_McKenzie Mar 2013 #23

Disgusted at the "progressives" that are opposed to this fillibuster. DesMoinesDem Mar 2013 #27

Have you tried crying about it? ForgoTheConsequence Mar 2013 #31

You don't really know anything about how our Senate works, do you? Leslie Valley Mar 2013 #36

Your concern is so noted. nt Common Sense Party Mar 2013 #132

update: pundits on m$nbc opining that he's playing to his base re: 2016 spanone Mar 2013 #24

He's playing everyone ProSense Mar 2013 #26

agreed. spanone Mar 2013 #28

a senator speaks out against drone murders and gets slammed on DU. how quaint msongs Mar 2013 #29

it appears he has quite a bit of support here. ??? spanone Mar 2013 #30

I think it's more the issue has quite a bit of support here. AtheistCrusader Mar 2013 #114

Fuck Ron Paul. Double Fuck Rand Paul Stinky The Clown Mar 2013 #33

i do agree GRENADE Mar 2013 #35

We've come a long way, Baby! kenny blankenship Mar 2013 #173

so, how could he vote against "Violence Against Women Reauthorization Act of 2013" spanone Mar 2013 #37

To be fair, Rand Paul does not approve of killing women with drones. BlueStreak Mar 2013 #42

is that a fact? spanone Mar 2013 #43

yes, I assume so, unless it is approved by his committee. BlueStreak Mar 2013 #51

Here's the problem I have with Congress BlueStreak Mar 2013 #54

The problem with both father and son Paul is that they are batshit crazy, racist RWs malaise Mar 2013 #113

My comment further up the thread 1KansasDem Mar 2013 #38

He's doing something that should be done by a Democrat. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2013 #40

I hope Ron Wyden joins him. NOVA_Dem Mar 2013 #53

The fastest way to get the Republicans to stop filibustering this issue BlueStreak Mar 2013 #59

True. What a shame. nt Union Scribe Mar 2013 #177

more rethugs joining in....utah sen. lee, asshole cruz spanone Mar 2013 #44

Not conflicted whatsoever nadinbrzezinski Mar 2013 #45

What's he ProSense Mar 2013 #48

You missed his father taking the neocon project appart nadinbrzezinski Mar 2013 #49

Ron Paul ProSense Mar 2013 #52

And your point? nadinbrzezinski Mar 2013 #55

My point is that he's a racist asshole and a fraud. ProSense Mar 2013 #65

And none is disagreeing nadinbrzezinski Mar 2013 #67

Oh please, ProSense Mar 2013 #74

Yup, my country, in this case nadinbrzezinski Mar 2013 #76

Monkey pancakes. n/t ProSense Mar 2013 #77

Blind partisanship nadinbrzezinski Mar 2013 #83

Post removed Post removed Mar 2013 #56

This message was self-deleted by its author ProSense Mar 2013 #60

Nuh-Uh. No you don't. MineralMan Mar 2013 #62

Oh I know... nadinbrzezinski Mar 2013 #70

Well, no wonder you support an idiot like Rand Paul. n/t ProSense Mar 2013 #75

Yup, I will be moving to KY to vote fr him nadinbrzezinski Mar 2013 #78

Maybe you should ProSense Mar 2013 #81

Keep digging nadinbrzezinski Mar 2013 #85

LOL! ProSense Mar 2013 #92

Are you also accusing ProSense of being a paid shill? MineralMan Mar 2013 #79

Totally with you. AtheistCrusader Mar 2013 #116

Fuck Rand Paul...nt SidDithers Mar 2013 #50

And the father who engendered him, too. MineralMan Mar 2013 #57

update: Sens. Mike Lee (R-Utah), Ted Cruz (R-Texas) and Jerry Moran (R-Kan.). spanone Mar 2013 #58

Now Senator Wyden 1KansasDem Mar 2013 #66

If Bush was President, they wouldn't be doing this. Cali_Democrat Mar 2013 #69

Of course, if Bush was president, Democrats would be opposed. BlueCheese Mar 2013 #142

Fuck Rand Paul, but in this he happens to be right. Autumn Mar 2013 #61

As I said above, the Paul's re stuck clocks nadinbrzezinski Mar 2013 #72

GOOD FOR HIM. woo me with science Mar 2013 #64

No, ProSense Mar 2013 #68

Your utter lack of principles has tripped you up once again cthulu2016 Mar 2013 #82

"utter lack of principles?" MineralMan Mar 2013 #86

Rubin should as well nadinbrzezinski Mar 2013 #87

Uh, ProSense Mar 2013 #89

My understanding is that Wyden has stated he will vote to confirm Brennan onenote Mar 2013 #90

Not only that, ProSense Mar 2013 #94

My understanding is that your observation is irrelevant cthulu2016 Mar 2013 #101

Except Wyden isn't trying to filibuster onenote Mar 2013 #103

Commercials run as scheduled. woo me with science Mar 2013 #99

Awww, everybody knows Wyden is just a freeper mole! Fuddnik Mar 2013 #109

Look how offensive and juvenile the propaganda is forced to become, woo me with science Mar 2013 #96

Oooh, I love the attempts to frame nonsense as a highly intellectual arugment. ProSense Mar 2013 #97

I love attempts to double-talk and justify indefensible bullshit. Fuddnik Mar 2013 #115

Hey, ProSense Mar 2013 #121

Is there anyone in this thread that thinks that Mitt Romney would have a different drone policy? onenote Mar 2013 #88

Does anyone think that DU wouldn't be outraged if Romney had been given those powers? Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2013 #95

Some have an incredible ability to ignore their cognitive dissonance. NOVA_Dem Mar 2013 #98

I've never doubted that the President has the authority claimed by Holder onenote Mar 2013 #102

If there was poll of Democrats and Progressives in 2005... NOVA_Dem Mar 2013 #106

Not a chance. onenote Mar 2013 #120

Bullshit, and you know it. NOVA_Dem Mar 2013 #126

I quoted from the DOJ memo and Holder's letter onenote Mar 2013 #128

Yesterday...NY TIMES MARCH 5, 2013 NOVA_Dem Mar 2013 #134

and exactly what does the additional information say onenote Mar 2013 #140

Anything else you want to pull out of a hat? NOVA_Dem Mar 2013 #152

Keep telling yourself that. You haven't provided diddly squat onenote Mar 2013 #157

You're saying that DU is to the right of GWB on Civil Liberties. NOVA_Dem Mar 2013 #164

No. I'm saying some DUers are buying into the BS that Paul and Cruz are shoveling out. onenote Mar 2013 #180

Paul asked if the same rules used for overseas drone attacks applied in the US. NOVA_Dem Mar 2013 #181

I predict none of the "newly minted" Paulites on this thread can answer that. Robb Mar 2013 #111

Oh, rand paul and co. wouldn't be up there Cha Mar 2013 #104

911....was congress outraged over the fact that bu$h* was prepared to shoot down flight 93? spanone Mar 2013 #100

Imminent threat. AtheistCrusader Mar 2013 #117

not really. one man's 'imminent threat' is another man's 'extraordinary circumstance' spanone Mar 2013 #118

If you say so. AtheistCrusader Mar 2013 #119

that was easy!!! spanone Mar 2013 #138

ACLU AtheistCrusader Mar 2013 #144

If Brennan had anything to do with torture, if he even knew JDPriestly Mar 2013 #105

On the plus side, he's making LaRouche seem less batty. Robb Mar 2013 #107

Post removed Post removed Mar 2013 #112

A stopped clock is right twice a day, MadHound Mar 2013 #122

Is he ProSense Mar 2013 #123

No, because Obama has already killed US citizens in drone strikes, MadHound Mar 2013 #124

Obama killed Americans in their homes? ProSense Mar 2013 #125

He has killed US citizens abroad, without due process, MadHound Mar 2013 #127

No, ProSense Mar 2013 #131

US citizens on paper only. Comrade_McKenzie Mar 2013 #143

Al-Alawki and his son were both born in the US, MadHound Mar 2013 #145

He's as boring as drying spit, but good for him. Common Sense Party Mar 2013 #129

A few thoughts... davidthegnome Mar 2013 #130

Rand Paul asked the following question in his letter to Holder: onenote Mar 2013 #137

He could have been more specific davidthegnome Mar 2013 #141

FFS, look at all the supporters of that racist gay bashing douchebag conservative. great white snark Mar 2013 #133

Who cares? Malik Agar Mar 2013 #135

Agreement on one particular issue... davidthegnome Mar 2013 #136

Rand Paul is an ass... truebluegreen Mar 2013 #139

Watching this thread today, 1KansasDem Mar 2013 #151

Maybe, instead of "Fuck Rand Paul", they should be saying "Fuck the Constitution". nt Bonobo Mar 2013 #159

I can't believe post #153 is hidden. NOVA_Dem Mar 2013 #166

Post removed Post removed Mar 2013 #153

There are lots of places to support Rand Paul 100% ucrdem Mar 2013 #161

'There are lots of places to support Rand Paul 100%' bwahahahahahahaaaaa spanone Mar 2013 #168

What's funny? ucrdem Mar 2013 #170

At least he's not doing it like Republicans normally do it.... vi5 Mar 2013 #154

fuck rand paul d_b Mar 2013 #156

He is not doing this over drone strikes krawhitham Mar 2013 #158

Still talking n/t skorpo Mar 2013 #162

I'm proud right now of Paul, Wyden LittleBlue Mar 2013 #160

"this goes beyond politics to the foundations of this country" +1000 bubbayugga Mar 2013 #165

Certainly the Bill of Rights should mean something re: assassinating Americans with no oversight BlueStreak Mar 2013 #172

You don't seem to realize that Wyden said he's satisfied with Holder's explanation onenote Mar 2013 #176

Well said. nt woo me with science Mar 2013 #178

11 hours and counting. Gotta JimDandy Mar 2013 #179

kick woo me with science Mar 2013 #186