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12. The Korean War was about markets in Asia as well as.....

Sat Feb 23, 2013, 11:49 AM

Feb 2013

ideological (fighting the Red Menace). Bosnia and Kosovo was about settling these areas down for capitalist exploitation after the fall of the USSR.

To expand just a little on edit: By settling these areas down, what I meant was that capitalism can't effectively do what it does when an area is beset by internal struggles. At times, the capitalists will push for a short, sharp conflict, ESPECIALLY if it will bring some stability to a region and open it up by backing local Bonapartist strongmen who will guarantee access.

And actually WWII was a battle between imperial ambitions. It just so happened that the fascists also turned out to be ideological enemies of just about everyone EXCEPT the 1% of that time. However the 1% didn't have the control during the 40s that they have now. They had had their wings clipped by the working class to one extent or another in the 30s and those wings hadn't grew back yet.

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What Is The Point Of Risking Your Life In The Military To Protect The Right Of Billionaires To [View all] TheMastersNemesis Feb 2013 OP

I joined the military (Navy) in the 80's. I didn't do it to protect billionaires... cherokeeprogressive Feb 2013 #1

You may not have joined to protect billionaires assets Arctic Dave Feb 2013 #2

Guess again, Hoss... cherokeeprogressive Feb 2013 #7

You should "guess" again. ronnie624 Feb 2013 #15

You are missing the point, to wit: The CONFLICTS had nothing to do with your personal WinkyDink Feb 2013 #19

I think they miss the point on purpose, as many do around here. Rex Feb 2013 #51

i hear where you are coming from datasuspect Feb 2013 #33

So what's your point? white_wolf Feb 2013 #42

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Oh you can't think of a decent reply? white_wolf Feb 2013 #61

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your best experiences in the military were doing drugs? well, that inspires confidence. HiPointDem Feb 2013 #45

You don't need to justify your life choices to these folks jberryhill Feb 2013 #80

I'm hardly a big military supporter but your comment is fucking disgusting cali Feb 2013 #21

Who is he? He is someone who is familiar with Smedley Butler, the ex-Marine who AnotherMcIntosh Feb 2013 #63

Because you are defending the poor, downtrodden and hardworking as well. OceanEcosystem Feb 2013 #3

Well, that's what they TELL you you're doing....... socialist_n_TN Feb 2013 #9

How did the Korean War, the intervention in Bosnia, Kosovo, etc. OceanEcosystem Feb 2013 #10

The Korean War was about markets in Asia as well as..... socialist_n_TN Feb 2013 #12

* ronnie624 Feb 2013 #16

The Koreas are the one case DonCoquixote Feb 2013 #43

Well as a Trotskyist, you won't find me on the side........ socialist_n_TN Feb 2013 #49

true about che et al DonCoquixote Feb 2013 #67

They are pretty disgusting all right...... socialist_n_TN Feb 2013 #69

They did make their countries stronger, but... white_wolf Feb 2013 #74

Anglo-saxon Imperialism has been going on for centuries... Melinda Feb 2013 #54

Why thank you Melinda, for the kind words.......... socialist_n_TN Feb 2013 #68

"If Marx were alive he'd say "I told you so." white_wolf Feb 2013 #78

Oh, right. American poor are somehow being defended by the deaths of Pakistani children. WinkyDink Feb 2013 #20

Psych! n/t L0oniX Feb 2013 #60

Getting harder all the time to justify service. moondust Feb 2013 #4

That is the truth marions ghost Feb 2013 #28

I realized that a long time ago. Initech Feb 2013 #5

They can go fight their own fucken wars, let them get their asses in a sling, let them send RKP5637 Feb 2013 #27

This is why we need to bring the draft back davidn3600 Feb 2013 #6

"Or go to a militia defense." That's the one....... socialist_n_TN Feb 2013 #8

You're over the draft age, aren't you? Scootaloo Feb 2013 #79

War is a racket. And, the GIs are the button men for the racketeers. Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2013 #11

This is why we need an asset protection tax. reformist2 Feb 2013 #13

A lot of immigrants came to the US to avoid becoming cannon fodder for the emperors of Europe FarCenter Feb 2013 #14

+1000 Tom Ripley Feb 2013 #37

Because it's a good job with perks. raouldukelives Feb 2013 #17

Fuck that shit pinboy3niner Feb 2013 #23

This one won't get answered, pinboy3niner. WAY too much truth in your response. 11 Bravo Feb 2013 #40

Actually, that post does not even address the topic. ronnie624 Feb 2013 #88

I wonder if maybe he was being sarcastic? Melinda Feb 2013 #58

I firmly believe, even though I was not yet alive, that America was different back then. raouldukelives Feb 2013 #87

BULLHUEY nadinbrzezinski Feb 2013 #50

The medals for our hero drone pilots who kill a lot of people are really cool too. n/t L0oniX Feb 2013 #59

The Problem Is That The Private Sector Can't Or Won't Create Jobs You Can Live TheMastersNemesis Feb 2013 #18

Raise economic status midwest irish Feb 2013 #22

It's the "poverty draft" for the empire Lydia Leftcoast Feb 2013 #24

Butler and Shoup.... Bigmack Feb 2013 #25

I know a colonel in the army marions ghost Feb 2013 #29

'high-class muscle for Big Business' pa28 Feb 2013 #64

Butler and Shoup, of course, were both right. AnotherMcIntosh Feb 2013 #66

What's really sad is when the dupees actually defend the evil, corrupt system MotherPetrie Feb 2013 #26

Regardless of what we may think of certain foreign adventures, I support the troops pinboy3niner Feb 2013 #30

I don't think that anybody was disparaging the troops......... socialist_n_TN Feb 2013 #31

Questioning their various motives, as a class, seems disparaging to me jberryhill Feb 2013 #81

The only "class" that I was questioning was the ruling class..... socialist_n_TN Feb 2013 #84

Weird reading interpretation jberryhill Feb 2013 #85

Even so and once again, I didn't question their individual motives....... socialist_n_TN Feb 2013 #89

Interestingly, my ex-Army Republican friend... WhaTHellsgoingonhere Feb 2013 #32

Soldiers of the White Supremacist Patriarchy: Fall In! moondust Feb 2013 #35

lol!! WhaTHellsgoingonhere Feb 2013 #39

Un-American fucks!... Bigmack Feb 2013 #41

he was in the military that didn't have black people in it? HiPointDem Feb 2013 #46

K&R forestpath Feb 2013 #34

That's why I always discourage anyone from joining the military...I come from a long line... Tom Ripley Feb 2013 #36

Pathetic we. lonestarnot Feb 2013 #38

Military service can be an excellent opportunity for kids who would otherwise fail in life. bubbayugga Feb 2013 #47

If you have to join the military to get a job you have already failed in life. n/t L0oniX Feb 2013 #57

wow. I'm just going to ignore one such as you. bubbayugga Feb 2013 #83

That wasn't what I joined to fight for, though that is what it seemed like it ended up being about Victor_c3 Feb 2013 #48

Thanks for telling your story. Nt roody Feb 2013 #53

Welcome home. A belated welcome to DU. And a mother's hug riderinthestorm Feb 2013 #70

You seem very intelligent and perceptive daleo Feb 2013 #82

When was the last time they were actually used in defense of the country? WW2? LittleBlue Feb 2013 #52

Military men are just dumb stupid animals to be used as pawns in foreign policy. - Henry Kissinger L0oniX Feb 2013 #55

You are out of work, cannot afford college, need some skills still_one Feb 2013 #56

So in your world, ANY Government job would be doing the same thing? brooklynite Feb 2013 #62

No, because you aren't killing people in other government jobs. white_wolf Feb 2013 #65

How about if I work for the Bureau of Land Management? brooklynite Feb 2013 #71

Are you killing people in those jobs? No. white_wolf Feb 2013 #72

I agree that it's different... brooklynite Feb 2013 #73

Of course it isn't, however... white_wolf Feb 2013 #75

Which "wars"? brooklynite Feb 2013 #76

"Which wars?" white_wolf Feb 2013 #77