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12. The Kennedy Family Knows the Truth...

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 01:28 PM

Jan 2013

The Kennedy family knows the truth about the JFK Assassination, and they know it wasn't Oswald who did the shooting. They just don't want another of their tribe to be murdered is why they don't go anywhere with the truth about JFK, RFK, and JFK Jr. There is Jackie's diary that's supposed to be published 50 yrs after the death of her last surviving child....She knew who killed her husband and that information is very likely in her diary.
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Upcoming Movie on JFK Assassination: "Legacy of Secrecy"

DiCaprio to Produce and Star in 2013 JFK Assassination Movie. The movie is based on Lamar Waldron/Thom Hartman book's book. Hollywood star Leonardo DiCaprio is set to star in and produce a forthcoming movie centered around the assassination of JFK, the Washington Post has reported. The movie, which is based on the 2008 Lamar Waldron/Thom Hartman book, will see the actor play an FBI informant, Jack Van Laningham, helping the investigation into the murder of John F. Kennedy.
In the book, Laningham claims to have witnessed the confession of New Orleans Mafia boss Carlos "The Little Man" Marcello to the murder of President Kennedy. Film website FirstShowing.net has stated that DiCaprio was first shown the book by his father, and it is said to contain "new and recently declassified" information from both the National Archives and the FBI. "Apparently the confession came about after a dangerous and long-secret undercover operation, wherein the FBI positioned Van Laningham to become a confidant to Marcello, who ruled organized crime in Louisiana and most of Texas for decades. The 1979 House Select Committee on Assassinations said mobster Santo Trafficante and Marcello 'had the motive, means, and opportunity to assassinate President Kennedy.'" FirstShowing.net reports. The announcement for production of the film comes, coincidentally, 47 years ago to the day that President Kennedy was murdered.

"Legacy of Secrecy" is set to be released in 2013 -- 50 years after JFK’s death.
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Attorney General Robert F. Kennedy believed President Kennedy was killed by a conspiracy. [View all] Octafish Jan 2013 OP

Cue the 'coincidence theorists' to target their attacks on RFK. blm Jan 2013 #1

Please, tell me why they would call themselves "Democrats"? Octafish Jan 2013 #10

Great smear! zappaman Jan 2013 #13

Project much? Octafish Jan 2013 #14

Nope. zappaman Jan 2013 #15

Laugh all you want, zappaman, as it reveals what kind of person you are. Octafish Jan 2013 #17

Look up Lee Harvey Oswald zappaman Jan 2013 #20

Agreed again! They excuse the little shit that did the killing! stopbush Jan 2013 #36

That's incorrect. The CIA and Curtis LeMay did him in. The Mafia cleaned up the "problems" Zen Democrat Jan 2013 #53

Unraveling since Day One? Yet here were are, 50 years later, stopbush Jan 2013 #57

Well stated, Zen Democrat. Octafish Jan 2013 #66

What a laugh! stopbush Jan 2013 #79

MAJOR woo. stopbush Jan 2013 #131

Kicking. n/t Hotler Jan 2013 #147

‘One-man truth squad’ still debunking JFK conspiracy theories zappaman Jan 2013 #153

Crapola at its deepest. Octafish Jan 2013 #195

What an ignorant comment. MrMickeysMom Jan 2013 #161

Back what up? zappaman Jan 2013 #163

No you wouldn't... MrMickeysMom Jan 2013 #188

Seems the Attorney General of the US & the President's closest advisor was the one doing that. HiPointDem Jan 2013 #189

CT paranoia. stopbush Jan 2013 #80

Rather be called 'paranoid' than side with liars and the traitors they protect. Octafish Jan 2013 #84

Once again, Octafish posts that picture of nobody in particular. stopbush Jan 2013 #86

Please, keep up with the smears and name calling, stopbush. Octafish Jan 2013 #87

But there is no "issue," Octafish. That's what you don't seem to understand. stopbush Jan 2013 #89

Gee. Comparing me to Sandy Hook deniers might be a clue. Octafish Jan 2013 #91

Gee. You have no problem calling people "liars" and enablers of traitors, stopbush Jan 2013 #94

And you have no problem putting words into other people's mouths. Octafish Jan 2013 #127

In this case, the technical term is "presenting the evidence." stopbush Jan 2013 #205

Speaking of smears... zappaman Jan 2013 #99

It looks like Ed O'Neil playing angry birds on an iPhone n/t RZM Jan 2013 #90

Your the one who's in the "rarefied club" - the club that includes alberg Jan 2013 #452

Check your Websters for the definition of "evidence." Then, get back to us. stopbush Jan 2013 #459

Your either ignorant of the evidence, genuinely confused about a topic that is alberg Jan 2013 #485

How would you know what the WCR says? You've never read it. stopbush Jan 2013 #491

"Sprague... wanted complete information about the CIA's operation in Mexico City..." MinM Jan 2013 #193

If, as I suspect the CIA knew what went on in Mexico City, I can see why the CIA demanded happyslug Jan 2013 #232

Thanks for the background on Sprague's removal, MM. Mc Mike Jan 2013 #237

CIA assigned 1963 Oswald minder George Joannides the 1977 job of liaison with HSCA. Octafish Jan 2013 #250

One of the Problems with the JFK assassination is the sheer number of people CYAing themselves happyslug Jan 2013 #229

I'm curious... AntiFascist Jan 2013 #255

And one of the problems with the JFK CTists is that they feel it necessary stopbush Jan 2013 #321

I Don't Believe in Magic… AndyTiedye Jan 2013 #651

Ignorance of the evidence on display for all to see. stopbush Jan 2013 #652

the kennedys are conspiracy theorists now? seems like rfk, both as us AG & kennedy admin HiPointDem Jan 2013 #190

Talk about contradicting yourself! stopbush Jan 2013 #293

Uhhh, what? AntiFascist Jan 2013 #302

You wrote: stopbush Jan 2013 #306

From one point of view... AntiFascist Jan 2013 #318

there's no contradiction at all. sorry you don't see it. rfk had connections he could work after HiPointDem Jan 2013 #324

Muahahahahaha!!!! greytdemocrat Jan 2013 #170

Agreed. stopbush Jan 2013 #29

This sure is another reason to point to the pointless.... MrMickeysMom Jan 2013 #159

Cool! zappaman Jan 2013 #162

Divert much? MrMickeysMom Jan 2013 #176

'You can't be a Democrat and you can't be a liberal if you don't believe there was a conspiracy" zappaman Jan 2013 #441

You are pointless. What is the point of this post? Back up you own crap before you ask anyone else lonestarnot Jan 2013 #180

already have... MrMickeysMom Jan 2013 #184

Then explain why the secret service was waived off the car. lonestarnot Jan 2013 #192

People don't like to talk about the real reason for this... AntiFascist Jan 2013 #206

JFK never ordered the bubble top off. Octafish Jan 2013 #220

I'm not that familiar with the secret service point of view... AntiFascist Jan 2013 #230

The Bubble Top Wasn't Bulletproof. So what does it matter if JFK or someone else stopbush Jan 2013 #290

Wrong... AntiFascist Jan 2013 #301

uh huh zappaman Jan 2013 #304

Sorry, I assumed the SS agent knew what he was talking about... AntiFascist Jan 2013 #375

Wow.You're easily pleased...or deluded. Take your pick. stopbush Jan 2013 #388

In this case just being logical.... AntiFascist Jan 2013 #390

You wrote: stopbush Jan 2013 #309

The bubble top was ordered off the limo by Kenneth O'Donnell, one of JFK's top aides stopbush Jan 2013 #475

That picture means absolutely nothing when it comes to protecting JFK that day. stopbush Jan 2013 #668

... doublethink Jan 2013 #676

Sorry, but putting nothing in your title line but an ellipse stopbush Jan 2013 #680

... doublethink Jan 2013 #682

You have handily diminished your credibility. lonestarnot Jan 2013 #179

Their weren't "hundreds", only a small core group of experienced assassins alberg Jan 2013 #437

'Their weren't "hundreds", only a small core group of experienced assassins" zappaman Jan 2013 #439

How long was the "Ultra Secret" covered up? How many people were in on it? alberg Jan 2013 #487

Post removed Post removed Jan 2013 #621

I like busting you when you make things up zappaman Jan 2013 #622

I didn't know registering as a Democrat required me to join Lee Harvey's defense team. nyquil_man Jan 2013 #608

Where did I write that? Octafish Jan 2013 #619

You didn't write it. nyquil_man Jan 2013 #625

RFK was not interested in reopening the investigation into his brother's death. stopbush Jan 2013 #350

For public consumption and to throw off conspirators still at large... Octafish Jan 2013 #535

"In private, there are reports." stopbush Jan 2013 #536

Sen. Kennedy's children went public with their father's conclusion of conspiracy. Octafish Jan 2013 #538

Is that why you are now talking about nazis? zappaman Jan 2013 #545

NAZIs played a MAJOR role in the United States after the war. Octafish Jan 2013 #578

You can post whatever you want zappaman Jan 2013 #579

And yet, RFK conducted his own INDEPENDENT investigation of the numerous JFK CTs AT THE TIME stopbush Jan 2013 #547

As I've pointed out in my posts on this issue... AntiFascist Jan 2013 #647

That might be plausible if RFK was a coward. Or a political opportunist. stopbush Jan 2013 #648

In the course of this thread... AntiFascist Jan 2013 #656

"It demonstrates that RFK?" You know, these aren't FACTS that we're talking about here. stopbush Jan 2013 #658

Contemptible? AntiFascist Jan 2013 #659

Now, I'm forced to give history lessons. stopbush Jan 2013 #662

It could also imply... AntiFascist Jan 2013 #664

It implies no such thing. The fact that the Washington Post called these aides the Irish Mafia stopbush Jan 2013 #667

I only assume that there are a lot of young people viewing this forum... AntiFascist Jan 2013 #669

So, you're suggesting that people who DO know their history should walk on eggs stopbush Jan 2013 #670

Nonsense aside... AntiFascist Jan 2013 #674

Do you have comprehension problems? stopbush Jan 2013 #681

I'm complaining about the use of the word "mafia" not the use of "Irish"... AntiFascist Jan 2013 #684

What you're doing is over reaching to make a point that doesn't exist stopbush Jan 2013 #686

All you have to do is google and you will find... AntiFascist Jan 2013 #688

Those are not the words she claimed he used... zappaman Jan 2013 #689

You guys are so predictable... AntiFascist Jan 2013 #690

You said... zappaman Jan 2013 #691

You are clearly the expert on precisely what Madelaine Brown said... AntiFascist Jan 2013 #693

I wouldn't say I'm an expert on what she said... zappaman Jan 2013 #694

"protect the children"...what an understatement n/t AntiFascist Jan 2013 #695

Are you effing kidding us? Madeline Brown? You're actually putting that NUT forward stopbush Jan 2013 #696

Once again you misconstrue what I have said, and then elaborate endlessly on your own... AntiFascist Jan 2013 #697

You may not care about my blabbering on about Madeline Brown, stopbush Jan 2013 #700

Doing a little more searching on the matter... AntiFascist Jan 2013 #702

What does any of that matter? LBJ wasn't at that party to say what he didn't say stopbush Jan 2013 #703

You are confusing two different issues.... AntiFascist Jan 2013 #705

The only "issue" about Murchison is whether M Brown was lying about the party. stopbush Jan 2013 #706

I would refer back to the book "Farewell America"... AntiFascist Jan 2013 #707

Fiction makes up a very small percentage of my reading list these days. stopbush Jan 2013 #708

Fine... AntiFascist Jan 2013 #698

Why you'd waste your time worrying abut RW drivel is beyond me. It's drivel! stopbush Jan 2013 #699

I have no clue what really happened, but never bought the official story. Scuba Jan 2013 #2

'Breach of Trust' by Gerald D. McKnight spells out how the Warren Commission failed the nation. Octafish Jan 2013 #16

Reclaiming History by Vincent Bugliosi spells out how the Warren Commission got it right. zappaman Jan 2013 #19

Agreed again. But don't expect the CTists to read Bugliosi when 99% of them stopbush Jan 2013 #30

That is your recurrent theme, encouraging DUers to read the WCR, stopbush. Octafish Jan 2013 #43

Why not show the other pictures, my friend? zappaman Jan 2013 #45

Because that picture shows the base of a bullet, zappaman, and adds nothing to understanding. Octafish Jan 2013 #49

This is the bullet that left significantmetal in Connally's body that was never removed? Yeah right. Zen Democrat Jan 2013 #60

Depends on your definition of "significant," does it not? stopbush Jan 2013 #132

'Significant' as the mass of material in Connally's wrist is greater than what's missing from CE399. Octafish Jan 2013 #196

Those "details" you link to prove nothing. stopbush Jan 2013 #197

That is what McAdams, a proven disinformationist, says. Octafish Jan 2013 #200

No, that is what John Lattimer - a person who examined the evidence - says. stopbush Jan 2013 #202

+1000 zappaman Jan 2013 #203

Trajectory of a Lie Octafish Jan 2013 #215

'You really are a sucker for this shit, aren't you?' Octafish Jan 2013 #314

Since you continually cite evidence related to Neutron Activation analysis... AntiFascist Jan 2013 #376

For the sake of your argument, I'll stipulate that we set aside the NAA done to CE399. stopbush Jan 2013 #391

Oh, I don't know.... AntiFascist Jan 2013 #393

No, it isn't Spider Jerusalem Jan 2013 #256

Say it isn't so! zappaman Jan 2013 #260

Funny thing... Spider Jerusalem Jan 2013 #263

I agree with your entire post zappaman Jan 2013 #265

Yeah... Spider Jerusalem Jan 2013 #267

The weight of fragments removed from Gov. Connally are not known, Spider Jerusalem. Octafish Jan 2013 #272

They are known. Spider Jerusalem Jan 2013 #273

Got a link or source that documents the weight of the fragments from Gov. Connally? Octafish Jan 2013 #274

HSCA: Spider Jerusalem Jan 2013 #275

Thanks. Still is only an estimate of what was removed, not a measurement. Octafish Jan 2013 #276

More misleading hogwash from you, as expected Spider Jerusalem Jan 2013 #277

The Lie in Connally's Thigh Octafish Jan 2013 #284

Limit discussion? Spider Jerusalem Jan 2013 #294

Drs. Finck, Humes & Shaw testified more fragments found in Connally’s wrist than missing from CE 399 Octafish Jan 2013 #378

With all due respect, they were evidently mistaken Spider Jerusalem Jan 2013 #383

here ya go zappaman Jan 2013 #62

That's an excellent read. stopbush Jan 2013 #88

No, it's not. Here's what that fellow is all about. Octafish Jan 2013 #113

Yes, isn't it? zappaman Jan 2013 #120

You are SO far behind the curve in the evidence that has been added over the decades stopbush Jan 2013 #52

For information, read James DOUGLASS. You write about allegation paraded as reality, stopbush. Octafish Jan 2013 #63

Unlike you refusing to read Bugliosi or the WCR, I've actually read most of "JFK&TU" by Douglass. stopbush Jan 2013 #73

Don't worry! zappaman Jan 2013 #74

That is simply WRONG MrMickeysMom Jan 2013 #183

+++++++++++++ librechik Jan 2013 #166

The only reason to keep on trying is in order for those of us who care about Democracy win. Octafish Jan 2013 #172

what do you make of librechik Jan 2013 #173

How does one care about American democracy stopbush Jan 2013 #198

I generally avoid reading fiction Ian Iam Jan 2013 #340

How would you know? stopbush Jan 2013 #348

Thank you for the welcome Ian Iam Jan 2013 #354

RFK publicly stood up and embraced the WCR. stopbush Jan 2013 #356

The Bugliosi book is wrong on SO many counts. Zen Democrat Jan 2013 #59

I finished the Bugliosi book proper (not the supplemental end notes) about coalition_unwilling Jan 2013 #67

Great post. zappaman Jan 2013 #70

Speaking of motive... AntiFascist Jan 2013 #141

Oswald had motives zappaman Jan 2013 #145

So basically... AntiFascist Jan 2013 #178

What were the motives of other presidential assassins? nyquil_man Jan 2013 #576

The Lincoln assassination... AntiFascist Jan 2013 #580

The Lincoln assassination was a military operation? nyquil_man Jan 2013 #593

The thinking at the time... AntiFascist Jan 2013 #596

There were and are strong arguments that the facts of the case did not merit a military trial. nyquil_man Jan 2013 #597

I'm certainly not claiming they were competent... AntiFascist Jan 2013 #599

What you offer is speculation based on the occasional fact. nyquil_man Jan 2013 #601

Where did I say anything about an average CIA employee? AntiFascist Jan 2013 #604

Again, what does that have to do with LHO not firing the fatal shots? nyquil_man Jan 2013 #606

The theory is... AntiFascist Jan 2013 #618

Well, if you had bothered reading any book on Oswald, stopbush Jan 2013 #207

That's quite a stretch... AntiFascist Jan 2013 #209

So, it's a stretch to think that Oswald killed JFk as a simple act of self aggrandizement, stopbush Jan 2013 #549

You left out LBJ... zappaman Jan 2013 #551

How could I forget the lynchpins in the conspiracy? stopbush Jan 2013 #552

Oswald was linked to the Walker shooting... AntiFascist Jan 2013 #557

No, that's not entirely true. stopbush Jan 2013 #559

Regarding Gen. Walker... AntiFascist Jan 2013 #563

Why am I required to provide evidence for my speculations stopbush Jan 2013 #565

Maybe you should read the above posts more carefully... AntiFascist Jan 2013 #566

Also, books that go into any depth about Oswald... AntiFascist Jan 2013 #211

Wow. An objective proof for all those crazy ideas? stopbush Jan 2013 #269

Objective proof? AntiFascist Jan 2013 #279

None of that is objective proof. This person said this, that person said that, etc. stopbush Jan 2013 #289

First of all... AntiFascist Jan 2013 #299

AND YET - the HSCA and the WCR found NO involvement of the mob or the Cubans. stopbush Jan 2013 #310

As Blakey reveals... AntiFascist Jan 2013 #313

According to Blakey, at the PBS link: AntiFascist Jan 2013 #370

BTW - let me know if you have problems with the following, which I would call objective proof: stopbush Jan 2013 #292

Fine... AntiFascist Jan 2013 #295

I stopped reading when your answer to the first point made it clear.. zappaman Jan 2013 #296

Your ad hominem attacks are always amusing... AntiFascist Jan 2013 #300

uh huh zappaman Jan 2013 #303

"test a possible theory" AntiFascist Jan 2013 #308

OMFG! Are you kidding me? This is like textbook erroneous info about the killing! stopbush Jan 2013 #305

Well at least now you presenting something to work with... AntiFascist Jan 2013 #311

"Again, I'm not the expert on this" zappaman Jan 2013 #312

Yes, it occured in Dallas... AntiFascist Jan 2013 #315

I'll try to answer without a personal attack. stopbush Jan 2013 #320

I'm thrilled... AntiFascist Jan 2013 #328

Simple facts again Spider Jerusalem Jan 2013 #405

Spider Jerusalem, thank you for the info... AntiFascist Jan 2013 #407

No, evidence of a wound of entry was found in the skull. Spider Jerusalem Jan 2013 #410

You failed to address my point about the beveling of the bullet entry wound stopbush Jan 2013 #325

Reading through the comments made by witnesses to the autopsy, they seem contradictory... AntiFascist Jan 2013 #330

You can excuse and deny all you want. The evidence says otherwise: stopbush Jan 2013 #331

Your information states.... AntiFascist Jan 2013 #369

What do O'Neill and Silbert have to do with the experts who examined the skull fragments? stopbush Jan 2013 #382

Having your blinders on works well for you... AntiFascist Jan 2013 #389

You're missing the point. stopbush Jan 2013 #392

So, it sounds like you're willing to set aside NAA analysis as providing valid evidence.... AntiFascist Jan 2013 #396

You misunderstand. I'm simply showing that the NAA isn't in any way stopbush Jan 2013 #397

Really? AntiFascist Jan 2013 #404

The fact that CE399 was proved to have been fired from Oswald's rifle coupled with the lead stopbush Jan 2013 #429

I won't pretend to have definitive answers... AntiFascist Jan 2013 #431

Well, you've got me wondering if any newer scientific processes have been developed stopbush Jan 2013 #432

... AntiFascist Jan 2013 #434

You ask a reasonable question: what happened to the first shot? stopbush Jan 2013 #436

I'm curious, how would (or did) Bugliosi.... AntiFascist Jan 2013 #522

Can you cite where this came from? zappaman Jan 2013 #524

Here is the wiki page for the Dal-Tex building with references... AntiFascist Jan 2013 #526

Well one problem would be that no witnesses zappaman Jan 2013 #527

That's only what the wiki claimed... AntiFascist Jan 2013 #531

I'm not really curious about such a hypothesis. stopbush Jan 2013 #528

Small world in anti-Castro land... AntiFascist Jan 2013 #529

Nonsense and easily refuted Spider Jerusalem Jan 2013 #406

Uhhhh.... AntiFascist Jan 2013 #408

Which highlights the problem with eyewitness testimony Spider Jerusalem Jan 2013 #409

... AntiFascist Jan 2013 #411

Very few of them were physicians, very few of them saw the wounds up close... Spider Jerusalem Jan 2013 #413

Religious thinking? AntiFascist Jan 2013 #430

"Farewell America" MAY reflect a CT devised by RFK? Really? stopbush Jan 2013 #438

Obviously you aren't a Democrat or a liberal! zappaman Jan 2013 #442

Why anyone would believe the wild speculations of stopbush Jan 2013 #447

Time will tell if more truth will come out about RFK's beliefs at the time... AntiFascist Jan 2013 #453

I just have a very hard time believing that principled men like JFK & RFK stopbush Jan 2013 #456

The context of this thread hinges on the veracity of what RFK, Jr. is telling us... AntiFascist Jan 2013 #461

RFK Jr lost a lot of credibility with me when he went off on his anti-vac jag. stopbush Jan 2013 #465

Not to mention, heroin addicts like to lie zappaman Jan 2013 #469

I had forgotten about that arrest. stopbush Jan 2013 #472

Sure. zappaman Jan 2013 #473

Agreed. I worked at a homeless shelter for single adults. stopbush Jan 2013 #474

There is also evidence of what RFK believed privately... AntiFascist Feb 2013 #728

You continue to label speculation as "evidence." stopbush Feb 2013 #729

I'm citing statements made by reliable sources... AntiFascist Feb 2013 #734

Statements aren't evidence. They're statements. stopbush Feb 2013 #743

The WC was narrowly focused on the singular goal... AntiFascist Feb 2013 #745

I couldn't disagree more with your extremely biased assessment of the WC's goals. stopbush Feb 2013 #746

You missed one critical point... AntiFascist Feb 2013 #747

Bullshit. Did the WCR lie about all of the forensic evidence in the case? stopbush Feb 2013 #749

Once again... AntiFascist Feb 2013 #751

No, this is religious thinking. Spider Jerusalem Jan 2013 #443

You provided one excellent example of religious thinking... AntiFascist Jan 2013 #449

This isn't about the FBI, it's about EVERY BIT OF EVIDENCE AND ANALYSIS, EVER. Spider Jerusalem Jan 2013 #450

The timeline would have been 5 years later... AntiFascist Jan 2013 #457

The only problem with that? Spider Jerusalem Jan 2013 #470

I'm looking, and for the LIfe of me... AntiFascist Jan 2013 #476

... Spider Jerusalem Jan 2013 #488

According to Richard Trask... AntiFascist Jan 2013 #489

All of this is highly irrelevant Spider Jerusalem Jan 2013 #490

Let me be clear... AntiFascist Jan 2013 #508

Again, no Spider Jerusalem Jan 2013 #513

Then at least you are admitting... AntiFascist Jan 2013 #515

I'm saying if it was then there are non-conspiracy related reasons Spider Jerusalem Jan 2013 #516

I see you are back to focusing on the first bullet that went into JFK's back... AntiFascist Jan 2013 #519

You are clearly a crank, and there is no point in continuing this discussion Spider Jerusalem Jan 2013 #520

I'm a crank for citing real facts? AntiFascist Jan 2013 #521

You are a crank for deliberately misinterpreting facts. Spider Jerusalem Jan 2013 #523

I can call you a crank for the same reason... AntiFascist Jan 2013 #525

No... Spider Jerusalem Jan 2013 #532

Ok... AntiFascist Jan 2013 #533

... Spider Jerusalem Jan 2013 #534

No one is disputing what the FBI memo to the WC states... AntiFascist Jan 2013 #567

"appears to be" and "looks like" Spider Jerusalem Jan 2013 #569

The statement that lead fragments from Connally's wrist matches CE399... AntiFascist Jan 2013 #570

Except: Spider Jerusalem Jan 2013 #571

Your first sentence... AntiFascist Jan 2013 #574

There is no "glaring hole" Spider Jerusalem Jan 2013 #590

Your argument is based on the following facts... AntiFascist Jan 2013 #609

No Spider Jerusalem Jan 2013 #616

All the "conclusions" you cite in your post are faulty in and of themselves... AntiFascist Jan 2013 #617

No, you basically ignore ALL the evidence Spider Jerusalem Jan 2013 #623

... AntiFascist Jan 2013 #627

... Spider Jerusalem Jan 2013 #628

Doing a search on Dal-Tex.... AntiFascist Jan 2013 #630

Again no Spider Jerusalem Jan 2013 #632

Well actually... AntiFascist Jan 2013 #633

No, it doesn't Spider Jerusalem Jan 2013 #637

From your own quote... AntiFascist Jan 2013 #646

If nothing else, AntiFascist's postings of WCR info prove that the WCR was no whitewash. stopbush Jan 2013 #541

I'm shocked, SHOCKED I TELL YOU! AntiFascist Jan 2013 #568

And as I've pointed out many times - and as you seem to agree - stopbush Jan 2013 #572

You seem to have missed the point... AntiFascist Jan 2013 #573

No. There have been conspiracies that have led to successful assassinations of world leaders. stopbush Jan 2013 #575

Re: funding Oswald's return to the US. grantcart Jan 2013 #307

If Oswald was a spy... AntiFascist Jan 2013 #316

This is a classic tautology grantcart Jan 2013 #319

First of all... AntiFascist Jan 2013 #322

Then let me help you out grantcart Jan 2013 #326

You use the word "may" a lot there. nyquil_man Jan 2013 #594

Guiteau said in court that he admitted to the shooting but denied the killing. nyquil_man Jan 2013 #595

I have no comment on Guiteau... AntiFascist Jan 2013 #598

I wonder why you're not willing to apply the same conspiracy-oriented speculation nyquil_man Jan 2013 #600

Again... AntiFascist Jan 2013 #602

And you contend that Lee Harvey Oswald *may* have been just shooting out the window to scare JFK. nyquil_man Jan 2013 #603

I never pretended to know precisely what Oswald may or may not have been up to... AntiFascist Jan 2013 #605

He *may* have been doing a lot of things. nyquil_man Jan 2013 #607

As pointed out throughout the entire thread... AntiFascist Jan 2013 #610

Yes it does. Especially with generous pepperings of "may" nyquil_man Jan 2013 #611

In which case he could have still been involved with a conspiracy....already pointed out n/t AntiFascist Jan 2013 #612

"Lone assassin." I guess you missed that phrase. nyquil_man Jan 2013 #613

Then you missed my point... AntiFascist Jan 2013 #614

The only point you're really making nyquil_man Jan 2013 #615

My purpose is not to mitigate Oswald's guilt... AntiFascist Jan 2013 #620

Let me try this another way. nyquil_man Jan 2013 #626

Of course there is... AntiFascist Jan 2013 #629

It's not a question about whether or not someone persuaded you. nyquil_man Jan 2013 #639

It's mostly a matter of political context... AntiFascist Jan 2013 #640

Fair enough. nyquil_man Jan 2013 #643

It depends on which items... AntiFascist Jan 2013 #644

A few thoughts about CE-399. nyquil_man Jan 2013 #649

As I have pointed out elsewhere in the thread... AntiFascist Jan 2013 #654

Okay. You have no objection to the single bullet theory nyquil_man Jan 2013 #663

Obviously I do have problems with the single bullet theory no matter how it is construed... AntiFascist Jan 2013 #665

This apprehended mafia-aligned suspect had a name, I take it? nyquil_man Jan 2013 #666

If you would care to read through the thread... AntiFascist Jan 2013 #672

I will hand it to you for having a name but: At what point does he kill the President? nyquil_man Jan 2013 #675

You misconstrue my pet theory... AntiFascist Jan 2013 #678

What you have is a story. nyquil_man Jan 2013 #715

A story with legs... AntiFascist Jan 2013 #717

You've mentioned the HSCA a fair bit. nyquil_man Feb 2013 #718

I think you've overstated both the HSCA's conclusions and what they were looking at... AntiFascist Feb 2013 #719

Still speculating! nyquil_man Feb 2013 #720

Jack Anderson had his sources, in this 1975 article... AntiFascist Feb 2013 #721

He had sources stating that RFK had an opinion? nyquil_man Feb 2013 #723

Perhaps you should read the rest of the article... AntiFascist Feb 2013 #725

You've established that you're obsessed with the CIA and the Mafia nyquil_man Feb 2013 #722

Well put. Thank you for your many correctives to AF's CT fantasies in this thread. stopbush Feb 2013 #724

All I want is a uniform standard for what constitutes evidence. nyquil_man Feb 2013 #731

Exactly. I don't know why the CTists don't realize that all they're doing is speculating. stopbush Feb 2013 #732

Numerous facts are cited throughout the thread... AntiFascist Feb 2013 #735

They're fantasy as it relates to the JFK killing. stopbush Feb 2013 #744

Consider the source of so many of the criticisms of the Warren Report. nyquil_man Feb 2013 #736

Everybody did it / nobody did it... AntiFascist Feb 2013 #741

You have plenty of criticisms for the "official" version, but you have no valid alternative. nyquil_man Feb 2013 #748

Overtly, Brading had connections with the mafia as well as H.L. Hunt... AntiFascist Feb 2013 #750

You can't prove the connections except in your own mind. nyquil_man Feb 2013 #752

You and stopbush keep bringing up the same tired strawman argument... AntiFascist Feb 2013 #753

I'm not saying you're convinced you can provide evidence. I'm saying you have no evidence. nyquil_man Feb 2013 #754

Not so much evidence AGAINST Oswald as much as evidence related to how he was handled... AntiFascist Feb 2013 #755

You weave Oswald in and out. nyquil_man Feb 2013 #757

The theory does not depend on the number of shooters or the precise role Oswald played if any... AntiFascist Feb 2013 #758

You're dodging both questions. nyquil_man Feb 2013 #759

You keep referring to it as if it is my own unique theory... AntiFascist Feb 2013 #761

My apologies. I guess you meant "pet theory" some other way. nyquil_man Feb 2013 #762

Yes, JFK was shot and killed... AntiFascist Feb 2013 #763

See? You're willing to say that Oswald was deeply involved with the government, nyquil_man Feb 2013 #764

I think you are veering far from the question of whether or not there was a conspiracy... AntiFascist Feb 2013 #765

So the FBI and the WC screwed it up? nyquil_man Feb 2013 #769

As David Talbot points out... AntiFascist Feb 2013 #770

Katzenbach pushed for the evidence condemning Oswald to be brought out. nyquil_man Feb 2013 #773

You seem to ignore my point that RFK himself was playing along with this... AntiFascist Feb 2013 #777

So he's willing to take on Hoffa and tap Dr. King nyquil_man Feb 2013 #779

Who said anything about tapping Dr. King?? AntiFascist Feb 2013 #780

I see. So the Warren Commission was right not to explore all avenues in this case? nyquil_man Feb 2013 #782

Ok, so given that the Warren Commission may have acted PURELY in the interests of national security. AntiFascist Feb 2013 #784

The Justice Department's investigation was virtually non-existent. nyquil_man Feb 2013 #785

I prefer vetting to petting.... AntiFascist Feb 2013 #787

I understand the thinking. nyquil_man Feb 2013 #789

RFK's top concern was national security... AntiFascist Feb 2013 #790

You say they did an incomplete job nyquil_man Feb 2013 #798

The files would indicate Oswald's connections to anti-Castro CI programs... AntiFascist Feb 2013 #799

Now now. We have no idea what the files would indicate. nyquil_man Feb 2013 #802

CE-399 bothers me primarilly because the FBI lied in its memo to the Warren Commission... AntiFascist Feb 2013 #803

CE-399 bothers you because you don't want Oswald to be tied to any shooting. nyquil_man Feb 2013 #804

Again, I'm not one who wants to make Oswald out as some kind of hero... AntiFascist Feb 2013 #807

I think you read too much politics into Oswald's motivations. nyquil_man Feb 2013 #808

I don't believe he was motivated by politics.... AntiFascist Feb 2013 #809

You know he was being handled but you don't know if he fired a shot? nyquil_man Feb 2013 #811

Here's one theory you can sink your teeth into... AntiFascist Feb 2013 #810

That looks like fun. Can I try it? nyquil_man Feb 2013 #812

What facts support that argument? AntiFascist Feb 2013 #813

What's Oswald doing with Guy Bannister and anti-Castro groups if he's more of a leftist? nyquil_man Feb 2013 #814

He was being manipulated, more than anything else... AntiFascist Feb 2013 #815

I see. So you don't think potential ties to segregationist groups should have been explored? nyquil_man Feb 2013 #816

Explore all the potential ties you want to... AntiFascist Feb 2013 #817

It's not hard to follow because I've heard it all before. nyquil_man Feb 2013 #818

I never claimed that.... AntiFascist Feb 2013 #819

I'm saying who would hire a flake like Oswald as their spy? nyquil_man Feb 2013 #820

The documents that the CIA could release... AntiFascist Feb 2013 #822

Still not evidence that Oswald was a spy. nyquil_man Feb 2013 #826

The WC was obviously afraid that any hint of a conspiracy... AntiFascist Mar 2013 #832

Katzenbach's memo makes clear that he was concerned about RUMORS AND SPECULATION. nyquil_man Mar 2013 #834

Katzenbach had taken over for Robert Kennedy, who was still in mourning... AntiFascist Mar 2013 #835

We're going in circles. nyquil_man Mar 2013 #836

Obviously only one CT can be true.... AntiFascist Mar 2013 #837

You're much more interested in exploring the historical/geopolitical aspects of the assassination nyquil_man Mar 2013 #838

What do you think of the story told by Dallas County Deputy Sherrif Roger Craig? AntiFascist Mar 2013 #839

Craig is basically saying there that 1. There were people doing suspicious things nyquil_man Mar 2013 #840

Craig also points out numerous instances... AntiFascist Mar 2013 #841

You're veering away from Dealey again. nyquil_man Mar 2013 #842

The fact is... AntiFascist Mar 2013 #843

Not so fast. nyquil_man Mar 2013 #844

Are you familiar with the TV series "I Led Three Lives"? AntiFascist Feb 2013 #823

Oswald may have fancied himself a spy. nyquil_man Feb 2013 #825

No one claims he was particularly good at it... AntiFascist Feb 2013 #827

He didn't fake a suicide to leave. He attempted suicide in order to stay. nyquil_man Feb 2013 #829

Apparently you're not even paying attention, so why should I even try? AntiFascist Mar 2013 #831

Come up with some actual evidence, AntiFascist, and you'll have my full attention. nyquil_man Mar 2013 #833

The bit about Walker deserves more of a response. nyquil_man Feb 2013 #830

Your desire for perfect evidence seems to vanish when it comes to naming another shooter. nyquil_man Feb 2013 #805

There is a wide range of views on conspiracy in this case nyquil_man Feb 2013 #772

The pet CT I am focusing on... AntiFascist Feb 2013 #775

Okay. How much of the evidence cited by the WC and HSCA would you like to toss out? nyquil_man Feb 2013 #778

This is already covered in numerous other posts in this thread... AntiFascist Feb 2013 #783

As I've said before, dear AntiFascist, throw out CE-399. nyquil_man Feb 2013 #786

As a follow-up to your post... AntiFascist Feb 2013 #766

An internet post based on speculation. nyquil_man Feb 2013 #768

Since both the WC and the HSCA turned a blind eye toward General Walker... AntiFascist Feb 2013 #771

They didn't turn a blind eye toward Oswald's attempt to assassinate Walker. nyquil_man Feb 2013 #774

Of course it is true.... AntiFascist Feb 2013 #776

What role did Walker play in being shot at? Did he order "the setup"? nyquil_man Feb 2013 #781

Another reason Oswald was such a central person of interest to the CI division... AntiFascist Feb 2013 #756

The talk of "Mafia dons and CIA spooks" also occured during the Church and the HSCA investigations.. AntiFascist Feb 2013 #727

HSCA and Church were over 30 years ago. nyquil_man Feb 2013 #730

What's new is the evolution of thought, particularly on the role played by the CIA... AntiFascist Feb 2013 #733

Are you even familiar with the accomplishments of the HSCA, nyquil_man Feb 2013 #737

I've already pointed out in a number of posts... AntiFascist Feb 2013 #738

Blakey had his shot. He failed. nyquil_man Feb 2013 #739

Blakey was an expert when it came to organized crime... AntiFascist Feb 2013 #740

What? zappaman Jan 2013 #671

Based on my pet theories which I have outlined throughout the thread... AntiFascist Jan 2013 #673

Readers of Philip Melanson and John Newman would disagree. Octafish Jan 2013 #268

Oswald admired the Cuban revolution and Castro's leadership of it. Oswald coalition_unwilling Jan 2013 #258

Interesting he left the money on his wife's dresser before going off to shoot JFK. zappaman Jan 2013 #261

The whole thing infuses me with such immense sadness, both for JFK and his coalition_unwilling Jan 2013 #262

Even Marina Oswald was kept in the dark about much related to her husband... AntiFascist Jan 2013 #264

"There is a ton of evidence to implicate Lee Harvey Oswald as the sole..." MrMickeysMom Jan 2013 #185

The only bullets recovered from the scene were proven definitively coalition_unwilling Jan 2013 #257

Sooooo..... AntiFascist Jan 2013 #266

Pure speculation. Do you any proof for this new set of craziness? stopbush Jan 2013 #271

None of what I posted is new... AntiFascist Jan 2013 #280

The question is: it it really a "question" if it's already been answered? stopbush Jan 2013 #288

It's often said that it is difficult if not impossible to 'prove a negative'. IOW, in coalition_unwilling Jan 2013 #278

Kudos to Bugliosi for his work against Bush and Cheney... AntiFascist Jan 2013 #281

This "circumstantial evidence" did not fit the timeline of events... MrMickeysMom Jan 2013 #283

You throw around crap and expect it to stick. stopbush Jan 2013 #327

Not true, but you have heard that before... MrMickeysMom Jan 2013 #395

"I hate to tell you how many of those witnesses were not interviewed by the commission' zappaman Jan 2013 #401

Have you read Bugliosi's book? Be honest. stopbush Jan 2013 #75

That tired reference of Bugliosi, again? MrMickeysMom Jan 2013 #164

So you read it? zappaman Jan 2013 #165

Have you even read Bugliosi's book, MMM? Be honest. stopbush Jan 2013 #208

A response for jaggoffs who just have to know what I've read MrMickeysMom Jan 2013 #216

"Jagoffs"? zappaman Jan 2013 #218

Why are you calling yourself a jaggoff? MrMickeysMom Jan 2013 #221

blackopradio.com zappaman Jan 2013 #222

This would be the extent of it... MrMickeysMom Jan 2013 #224

Heard it and... zappaman Jan 2013 #225

Jim Marrs is on Blackopradio.com now MrMickeysMom Jan 2013 #228

Jim Marrs helped keep the researchers going when all the pressure was on to shut them down. Octafish Jan 2013 #418

Excellent to get it for free! MrMickeysMom Jan 2013 #444

Isn't "Crossfire" the Marrs book where his main eye/earwitness to the JFK shooting stopbush Jan 2013 #454

CROSSFIRE is an excellent book for CTers zappaman Jan 2013 #455

Or, pull an Oliver Stone and believe ALL of the contradictory CTs!! stopbush Jan 2013 #458

Keep kicking the thread! MrMickeysMom Jan 2013 #486

You are spreading disinformation... MrMickeysMom Jan 2013 #477

'Reading is good. A vast array of reading is better. Try it." zappaman Jan 2013 #482

Hey... MrMickeysMom Jan 2013 #484

~ Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2013 #219

Who dat? MrMickeysMom Jan 2013 #223

You are far too entertaining to be alerted on. zappaman Jan 2013 #227

Which book informed you that Oswald's body "spent 3-4 days lying in a mortuary?" stopbush Jan 2013 #451

We get it. Bugliosi is tired. The WCR is tired. The HSCA is tired. The evidence is tired. stopbush Jan 2013 #347

Not true... MrMickeysMom Jan 2013 #394

Like all CTists, you're not concerned with whether your theory is true, stopbush Jan 2013 #398

It's not conspiracy jags that are what's going off here... MrMickeysMom Jan 2013 #399

"Statements are really getting old." zappaman Jan 2013 #402

I'd think what is getting old are all the threads beating the dead horse stopbush Jan 2013 #416

Where your proof that Oswald was in that window on the 6th Floor. Zen Democrat Jan 2013 #503

You've never read the WCR, so how would you know whether or not it makes sense? stopbush Jan 2013 #511

All one needs know: For it to work, the Warren report REQUIRES a Magic Bullet. Octafish Jan 2013 #560

Requires a magic bullet? That's just stupid. stopbush Jan 2013 #564

I'm not a lone nut buff. Unlike you, I'm an evidence buff. stopbush Jan 2013 #641

The mob hated the Kennedys LeftInTX Jan 2013 #3

To me, the story of Joseph P. Kennedy, Sr., and the Mob is a canard. Octafish Jan 2013 #22

A canard? You must be in on the conspiracy yourself! stopbush Jan 2013 #97

I could say that I "hate" certain players on the Boston Red Sox. stopbush Jan 2013 #129

Actually, to many here, you would be the ONLY suspect. zappaman Jan 2013 #135

Here's where the BFEE comes in: Poppy was in Dallas on Nov. 22, 1963 Octafish Jan 2013 #412

I wonder what he thinks happened to JFK, Jr... reformist2 Jan 2013 #4

Charlie Rose didn't ask, FWIU. Octafish Jan 2013 #77

of coarse, the neo-cons could not have peace larkrake Jan 2013 #5

''Money trumps peace.'' -- George Walker Bush, Feb. 14, 2007 Octafish Jan 2013 #78

SMH Mr Dixon Jan 2013 #6

We may never know the names of the trigger men, but we know who has benefited most over 49 years. Octafish Jan 2013 #85

We already know the truth, but overwhelming evidence apparently isn't enough for some. stopbush Jan 2013 #133

RFK Jr also says vaccines cause autism. Archae Jan 2013 #7

Every bit of what you say may be true, colorado_ufo Jan 2013 #8

No, I can't "disprove" what they say. Archae Jan 2013 #9

How many people do you know who like to see Mercury injected into their kids? Octafish Jan 2013 #92

Here's the problem with your typical analysis of things. stopbush Jan 2013 #101

No, he didn't zipplewrath Jan 2013 #110

It is (was) only a matter of time... AntiFascist Jan 2013 #142

I thought they just said they didn't believe what the Warren Report said about... Little Star Jan 2013 #11

Er, more than one shooter defines the shooting as a conspiracy. stopbush Jan 2013 #114

The Kennedy Family Knows the Truth... triplepoint Jan 2013 #12

The family must have the strongest of hearts to carry the burden of what they know. Octafish Jan 2013 #387

Oh look, it's this thread again...nt SidDithers Jan 2013 #18

Well Sid zappaman Jan 2013 #24

He is from Canada so could be Rex Jan 2013 #41

I snapped a pic before he broke my phone ;) RandiFan1290 Jan 2013 #48

I have yet to see you post a substantiative post on *anything*. Lars39 Jan 2013 #25

Do I have to have your permission to post, siddithers? Octafish Jan 2013 #50

Dr. Sid Dithers. Rex Jan 2013 #55

You post whatever the fuck you want, octafish... SidDithers Jan 2013 #58

No, you don't zappaman Jan 2013 #64

Thing is, you don't actually comment on content, you just try to derail. Lars39 Jan 2013 #68

If you are talking about JFK being killed by more than Oswald... zappaman Jan 2013 #71

No, *any* topic he wants to shut down. Lars39 Jan 2013 #72

Lars39, I think you've best summed it up. MrMickeysMom Jan 2013 #187

Complete with you whining again. You poor thing. KurtNYC Jan 2013 #93

I am glad he finally came out and said it. Rex Jan 2013 #21

It was an historic event. Octafish Jan 2013 #76

Anyone that will do dirtywork for the BFEE Rex Jan 2013 #83

You seem to be confused. You write: stopbush Jan 2013 #98

Congress agreed with RFK octoberlib Jan 2013 #23

Nope. zappaman Jan 2013 #28

Yep. The "4th shot" crap has been conclusively falsified, not that the CTists give a damn. stopbush Jan 2013 #31

The body was altered. zappaman Jan 2013 #32

You know that Jackie was involved in the conspiracy, don't you? stopbush Jan 2013 #38

Actually, she was in cahoots with LBJ zappaman Jan 2013 #40

There is nothing funny about the assassination, zappaman. Octafish Jan 2013 #117

You are misguided about what I am laughing at, my friend. zappaman Jan 2013 #118

You are grossly misinformed... MrMickeysMom Jan 2013 #186

Bingo. There is nothing 'they' won't do. nyquil_man Jan 2013 #39

G. Robert Blakey has stated that if the dictabelt "evidence" of a 4th shot could be falsified stopbush Jan 2013 #35

Jesus Tap-dancing Christ! stopbush Jan 2013 #47

When DoJ changed bosses from Carter to Reagan, the HSCA request fell by the wayside. Octafish Jan 2013 #115

Thank you for all the links and book recommendations nt octoberlib Jan 2013 #226

That "they" could not let Bobby Kennedy become president. Festivito Jan 2013 #26

They continue to cover-up: The Railroading of LCDR Terri Pike Octafish Jan 2013 #345

I wish I could attach your mind as a searchable device. Festivito Jan 2013 #352

Is it true that John Kennedy was moving toward a National Bank of the U.S.A.? nt patrice Jan 2013 #27

I read where he was going to sign (or did sign) an Executive Order Boomerproud Jan 2013 #42

The Federal Reserve? could print money back then? I'll have to look into that. It creates money as patrice Jan 2013 #51

Kennedy battled Wall Street Octafish Jan 2013 #245

Thank you very much for the links, Octafish! I will read and share this important information. :-)) patrice Jan 2013 #246

He was Attorney General for almost the entire duration of the WC investigation. nyquil_man Jan 2013 #33

Oh, FCS!! How do you know he did not? Coyotl Jan 2013 #44

What makes you the overnight authority on what happened in Dallas? Or why RFK was killed? nyquil_man Jan 2013 #46

So now you are the authority on my "intimate, personal knowledge"? Coyotl Jan 2013 #54

I'll let Senator Kennedy reply. Again. nyquil_man Jan 2013 #69

I'd side with RFK over LBJ Octafish Jan 2013 #150

Do you think LBJ was an accessory to the assassination of JFK? zappaman Jan 2013 #158

Who knows? I do know LBJ told Walter Cronkite he suspected conspiracy. Octafish Jan 2013 #177

Tonkin was trumped up. I think there is general consensus on that point. nyquil_man Jan 2013 #492

you got this crime solved yet? snooper2 Jan 2013 #34

These things take time. zappaman Jan 2013 #37

Why so dismissive? Smarter people than I are working on it. Octafish Jan 2013 #56

"Smarter people than I are working on it." zappaman Jan 2013 #65

And people who aren't nearly as smart as you stopbush Jan 2013 #95

Rory was in the womb when RFK was killed. Her information had to come from Ethel. Zen Democrat Jan 2013 #61

Vince PALAMARA: CIA Director told RFK 'there were two people involved in the shooting.' Octafish Jan 2013 #435

"American Tabloid" smackd Jan 2013 #81

Thank you for the book suggestion, smackd! Octafish Jan 2013 #126

Great book! zappaman Jan 2013 #128

+1000 tex-wyo-dem Jan 2013 #82

Oswald and Ruby Phone Records – RFK, Jr. Got It Right Octafish Jan 2013 #109

Thanks, Octa. Mc Mike Jan 2013 #96

Like when stealing an election, an assassination is conducted to change policy. Octafish Jan 2013 #103

I've never seen a post of yours that didn't have a ton of good info Mc Mike Jan 2013 #213

Thank you, Mc Mike. Very much appreciate that. HERBLOCK and McCloy... Octafish Jan 2013 #231

There were a ton of good political cartoons to be viewed in the search, Mc Mike Jan 2013 #238

Lisa Pease mentions that a member of the Kennedy family acknowledged... MinM Jan 2013 #100

Lisa Pease is a giant. Octafish Jan 2013 #104

Lisa Pease references Carl Bernstein's "CIA & the Media" MinM Jan 2013 #191

Lisa Pease at ACORN, The Legacy of Penn Jones, Jr. Octafish Jan 2013 #252

"What you don't know can't hurt them." MinM Jan 2013 #253

Mae Brussell -Penn Jones Jr. Interview- (2-24-75) - YouTube MinM Jan 2013 #687

@johnsimkin: The journalist who worked for the CIA... MinM Feb 2013 #792

WOO! RomneyLies Jan 2013 #102

JFK, FDR and 'Seven Days in May' Octafish Jan 2013 #105

WOO! RomneyLies Jan 2013 #106

I have to disagree. HappyMe Jan 2013 #107

Please point out what is false. In fact, GOOGLE 'Octafish + BFEE' and find something that's false. Octafish Jan 2013 #111

WOO! RomneyLies Jan 2013 #121

Well, that means there is room for improvement! zappaman Jan 2013 #123

So you can't find even one thing I wrote that's false? Octafish Jan 2013 #124

WOO WOO n/t RomneyLies Jan 2013 #125

Apparently this is the best they can do, Octafish... MrMickeysMom Jan 2013 #182

So the links to the evidence in the case count for nothing? stopbush Jan 2013 #210

What evidence? MrMickeysMom Jan 2013 #217

looks like you got a pizza for being a troll, too. so who cares? HiPointDem Jan 2013 #204

Provides a cooling off period for his 'w' and 'o' keys. Factory recommended. Nt. Mc Mike Jan 2013 #214

When you say 'woo' are you quoting Sid? Bluenorthwest Jan 2013 #285

Curiosity will not be tolerated whatchamacallit Jan 2013 #108

If there's nothing to what RFK, Jr. and Rory said, why the virulent outcry on DU and in debunkerdom? Octafish Jan 2013 #112

Yes, it's causing much consternation whatchamacallit Jan 2013 #116

"why the virulent outcry on DU and in debunkerdom?" zappaman Jan 2013 #119

There was clearly a conspiracy. Waiting For Everyman Jan 2013 #122

"Denial of the documented facts" is what "conspiracy theorists" do. zappaman Jan 2013 #130

President Gerald Ford played a large role in foisting the lone nut fiction upon the United States. Octafish Jan 2013 #134

So, are you adding Gerald Ford to your list of those who helped kill or cover up? zappaman Jan 2013 #136

That's what Ford did, zappaman. Octafish Jan 2013 #137

Answer my question first, my friend. zappaman Jan 2013 #138

It's clear your sole interest in this thread is disruption, zappaman. Octafish Jan 2013 #144

No, what is clear is that you will not answer a simple question. zappaman Jan 2013 #146

Dude the Disrupting Dude Octafish Jan 2013 #149

too afraid to back up your accusations? zappaman Jan 2013 #151

Show me even one post where you've expressed criticism of George Walker Bush on DU, zappaman... Octafish Jan 2013 #154

I should be flattered you googled me! zappaman Jan 2013 #155

Dude the Disruption Dude Octafish Jan 2013 #156

Keep dodging the questions, my lion-hearted friend! zappaman Jan 2013 #157

Warren Commission had deep Nazi ties. Octafish Jan 2013 #254

Nazis are bad. zappaman Jan 2013 #259

The NAZI connection to the assassination of John F. Kennedy Octafish Jan 2013 #270

"And how much of the Warren Commission have YOU read, Mae?" Har Har. Mc Mike Jan 2013 #282

um....sure zappaman Jan 2013 #286

Ha! Amazing! According to Octafish, everybody in the world had a hand in killing JFK! stopbush Jan 2013 #287

You left out the Kennedy family zappaman Jan 2013 #291

This is essentially what Jesse Ventura spelled out on his conspiracy show BlueStreak Jan 2013 #139

People label Jesse Ventura a "crackpot"? zappaman Jan 2013 #140

"Believed" and proven are two different things. Comrade_McKenzie Jan 2013 #199

Most americans agree that something isn't "right" about the assasination. Kurovski Jan 2013 #143

I cannot fathom why a DUer would oppose discussion of conspiracy in the death of JFK. Octafish Jan 2013 #148

Oh my zappaman Jan 2013 #152

McAdams and Bugliosi... could there be a more narrow two references? MrMickeysMom Jan 2013 #175

Octafish ... have you wrote a book on this stuff yet? What's taking so long ??? doublethink Jan 2013 #174

So does any thinking person. MrSlayer Jan 2013 #160

Yes, because people are only killed over money. zappaman Jan 2013 #167

Presidents aren't mere "people". MrSlayer Jan 2013 #168

Presidents aren't people? zappaman Jan 2013 #169

You're intentionally being obtuse. MrSlayer Jan 2013 #171

That is not what was said. lonestarnot Jan 2013 #181

Well, he joins the vast majority of Americans who believe the same, MadHound Jan 2013 #194

While I agree that a significant majority of Americans now reject the WC findings, it simply coalition_unwilling Jan 2013 #297

a significant majority of Americans zappaman Jan 2013 #298

Then what you claim must have happened in just the first couple of minutes after the report came out MadHound Jan 2013 #317

Have you read Bugliosi's book yet? He clearly and coherently explains coalition_unwilling Jan 2013 #323

You're trying to make the case based on a difference of a few inches? MadHound Jan 2013 #329

I am somewhat hobbled currently, as I checked Bugliosi's book out of the coalition_unwilling Jan 2013 #333

No, it didn't "glance" off of Connally's wrist bone, MadHound Jan 2013 #336

Republican Senator (and physician) Bill Frist, who famously diagnosed Terry Schiavo as still coalition_unwilling Jan 2013 #338

Connally suffered a broken rib during the shooting. Let's recap... OldDem2012 Feb 2013 #795

Er, it was the base of CE399 - not the bullet's nose - that hit Connally's wrist. stopbush Jan 2013 #344

The "offset" between JFK and Connally is CLEARLY visible in the picture you provided. stopbush Jan 2013 #335

My friend, you need your eyesight checked, now. MadHound Jan 2013 #337

I've posted these pictures elsewhere in this thread, but here ya go: stopbush Jan 2013 #341

The common theme of their foolishness is to get you to spend time refuting their idiocy, MadHound. Octafish Jan 2013 #343

Ha! Well, you do have a sense of humor after all. stopbush Jan 2013 #346

Agreed! zappaman Jan 2013 #353

Yeah! zappaman Jan 2013 #339

kick for later. eom ellenfl Jan 2013 #201

If RFK believed there was a conspiracy, AND.. MicaelS Jan 2013 #212

It was during the Eisenhower Administration... AntiFascist Jan 2013 #235

Here are some good books/web links to read on the JFK assassination. 321Morrow Jan 2013 #233

Soooo LBJ did it, eh? zappaman Jan 2013 #234

What would Bobby Baker say? Octafish Jan 2013 #236

What would Octafish say? zappaman Jan 2013 #239

You're like talking to an Air Force program, zappaman. Octafish Jan 2013 #241

No answers? zappaman Jan 2013 #243

''We had been operating a damned Murder Inc. in the Caribbean.'' -- Lyndon B. Johnson Octafish Jan 2013 #244

Now you've done it ! H2O Man Jan 2013 #240

The yelps resound with a swift kick from the hobnailed boot of Orwell. Octafish Jan 2013 #242

Howling indeed... zappaman Jan 2013 #247

What did RFK know? AntiFascist Jan 2013 #248

A link to the book would be helpful zappaman Jan 2013 #249

"Farewell America".... AntiFascist Jan 2013 #251

NAZI Echo in Dealey Plaza Octafish Jan 2013 #332

Yeah...so? zappaman Jan 2013 #342

Hairpin turn slowed car in 1942 and 1963. Octafish Jan 2013 #349

Wht plot in regards to JFK? zappaman Jan 2013 #351

The fascist plot Jack Ruby tried to describe to Justice Earl Warren. Octafish Jan 2013 #360

Wow. zappaman Jan 2013 #362

More outright lies. stopbush Jan 2013 #355

It's no lie, stopbush. The hairpin turn was the ambush location in both cases. Octafish Jan 2013 #357

The route was never changed. Period. stopbush Jan 2013 #358

Where did I write it was changed? Octafish Jan 2013 #361

Here ya go: stopbush Jan 2013 #363

Thanks. My mistake. BTW: The word didn't change anything that mattered in my post. Octafish Jan 2013 #366

'I'd rather side with Jim Garrison" zappaman Jan 2013 #367

I'd rather side with Jim Garrison than with you, zappaman. Octafish Jan 2013 #371

Good one! zappaman Jan 2013 #373

That's a very interesting photograph. I hadn't seen it. Here's a video from Frontline which... Poll_Blind Feb 2013 #824

The SS didn't object to that turn - they planned that turn. stopbush Jan 2013 #386

If the Secret Service planned that turn they were criminally negligent or part of the plot. Octafish Jan 2013 #420

What do you mean "if" the SS planned that route? They did. stopbush Jan 2013 #422

Got a link for any of that, stopbush? Octafish Jan 2013 #423

Already provided in my previous post. stopbush Jan 2013 #426

What links? You don't answer who OK'd the route to include the 120-degree turn, stopbush. Octafish Jan 2013 #440

But I did answer it. It's all contained in the WCR testimony, which I provided. stopbush Jan 2013 #445

Thanks. So, Secret Service Special Agent Forrest V. Sorrels approved the route and hairpin turn. Octafish Jan 2013 #460

I'm glad to see you followed those links and read what the WCR had to say. stopbush Jan 2013 #468

"In your typical arrogant tone" zappaman Jan 2013 #448

Show me a link, stopbush, where any of what you contend is documented. Octafish Jan 2013 #424

As far as the question of whether JFK ordered the SS agents off his limo, stopbush Jan 2013 #425

Octafish is busy deciding on whether or not Oswald is a hero... zappaman Jan 2013 #427

Now THAT'S delusional! stopbush Jan 2013 #428

If I'm so wrong, why do you spend so many hours on this thread, zappaman? Octafish Jan 2013 #462

You being wrong is entertaining. zappaman Jan 2013 #463

I've asked you for years to show me where I'm wrong and you can't, zappaman. Octafish Jan 2013 #466

Nothing to say about your words? zappaman Jan 2013 #467

When will you get around to actually contribute to the thread, zappaman? Octafish Jan 2013 #478

Was he a hero when he shot JFK? zappaman Jan 2013 #480

Oswald's Case Against the Warren Commission (1965) Octafish Jan 2013 #493

Still no answers? zappaman Jan 2013 #494

So you have nothing to add, zappaman? Octafish Jan 2013 #495

What has that to do with my question? zappaman Jan 2013 #496

It has everything to do with your 'question.' Octafish Jan 2013 #497

Now you're putting words in my mouth? zappaman Jan 2013 #498

Does it bother you when people ask you if you've stopped beating your wife, zappaman? Octafish Jan 2013 #500

Nope. zappaman Jan 2013 #502

Still waiting... zappaman Jan 2013 #518

You mean bringing up some nazi assassination in a discussion about JFK? zappaman Jan 2013 #359

I've always thought so, too DFW Jan 2013 #334

The "moving target" was travelling at 11mph stopbush Jan 2013 #364

Not to mention.... zappaman Jan 2013 #365

Stop with the disinformation, stopbush. Octafish Jan 2013 #368

You're right up there with the climate change deniers, Octafish. stopbush Jan 2013 #377

First you called me a 'Sandy Hook denier,' stopbush, and now its 'climate change denier.' Octafish Jan 2013 #381

Because you are so obviously anti-science when it comes to the evidence in this case. stopbush Jan 2013 #384

Here's something scientific: Secret Service agent Abraham BOLDEN railroaded for telling the truth. Octafish Jan 2013 #415

That's not scientific. Interesting, yes. Scientific, no. stopbush Jan 2013 #417

Forensic Science Octafish Jan 2013 #419

Bolden may have been trained in forensic science, but the story you related about him stopbush Jan 2013 #421

Taking all that into account DFW Jan 2013 #374

Testimony by the USMC to the WC stated unequivicolly that Oswald was stopbush Jan 2013 #379

What condescending horse manure... Octafish Jan 2013 #506

Horse manure zappaman Jan 2013 #514

Your "expert" Pat Speer at least has the decency to provide Dale Myers rebuttal to his claims, stopbush Jan 2013 #550

Then-CIA man James Wilcott testified to Congress that Oswald was a CIA employee. Octafish Jan 2013 #372

Let us know when you decide if Oswald was a hero or not, Octafish. zappaman Jan 2013 #380

Why did the FBI destroy the note Oswald left for SA James HOSTY? Octafish Jan 2013 #385

Let us know when you decide if Oswald was a hero or not, Octafish. zappaman Jan 2013 #400

The guy was in Mexico City, apparently on US government business, so it is hard to tell. Octafish Jan 2013 #414

I had heard pieces of the CIA-mafia stuff before, but never put it together in such a straight line yurbud Jan 2013 #403

Fiction always moves in a straight line, especially in retrospect. stopbush Jan 2013 #433

Yes... MrMickeysMom Jan 2013 #446

Right. Octafish Jan 2013 #464

'Must be a coincidence... zappaman Jan 2013 #471

You must like spreading this... MrMickeysMom Jan 2013 #479

LOL zappaman Jan 2013 #481

You continue to do it... MrMickeysMom Jan 2013 #483

Nixon, Mobsters, the CIA, Cuba and Kennedy... Octafish Jan 2013 #499

Don't forget Oswald...who may have been a hero in your words... zappaman Jan 2013 #501

You continue the smear, zappaman. Do you think I'd post about Dallas on DU for 12 years? Octafish Jan 2013 #510

You don't seem to know what a smear is, Octafish zappaman Jan 2013 #512

great find--I knew the Nixon Hunt connections, but this adds a lot yurbud Jan 2013 #701

No, this isn't a Conspiracy Theory post at all... SidDithers Jan 2013 #504

Shhhhhh! zappaman Jan 2013 #505

No. It's a Lone Nut Theory post. Octafish Jan 2013 #507

Don't you know why it matters whether President Kennedy had been killed by a conspiracy? Octafish Jan 2013 #509

Keep chasing those unicorns! zappaman Jan 2013 #517

Unicorns? Almost as asinine as believing NAZIs had nothing to do with post-war US history. Octafish Jan 2013 #543

So the nazis killed JFK now??? zappaman Jan 2013 #544

These guys operate like tag-team hokey tv wrestlers. Octafish. Judi Lynn Jan 2013 #530

Quick. Call the whaaambulance! stopbush Jan 2013 #537

Such ignorance is reprehensible. Octafish Jan 2013 #539

I don't work to shut down discussion on the JFK killing. stopbush Jan 2013 #540

No, what is reprehensible is that you think Oswald may have been a hero. zappaman Jan 2013 #546

Since Nov. 22, 1963, it's been full-throttle: 'Money trumps peace' Octafish Jan 2013 #548

So? zappaman Jan 2013 #553

Other side of the coin: and if it could ever be proved to your satisfaction that Oswald acted alone, stopbush Jan 2013 #542

And yet, RFK agreed with the "shoddy workmanship" of the WCR. stopbush Jan 2013 #554

Who ya gonna believe? zappaman Jan 2013 #555

'Trolling is a art.' -- siddithers to zappaman Octafish Jan 2013 #556

Poor Octafish... zappaman Jan 2013 #558

Men of Courage Octafish Jan 2013 #561

Are you? zappaman Jan 2013 #562

RFK thinking it was a conspiracy doesn't make it an actual conspiracy. Bolo Boffin Jan 2013 #577

Yeah. When Attorney General Kennedy thinks conspiracy, however, I'm inclined to believe him. Octafish Jan 2013 #581

This message was self-deleted by its author zappaman Jan 2013 #582

RFK was on the record supporting the WCR. stopbush Jan 2013 #584

And if Attorney General Kennedy had thought no conspiracy, you'd have smeared him like you smear me. Bolo Boffin Jan 2013 #585

boloboffin, if I'd smeared you, you'd already have hit 'Alert.' Octafish Jan 2013 #588

Your assumption about my reliance on the Alert button is without merit. Bolo Boffin Jan 2013 #634

Yet the discussion is allowed to remain in GD... AntiFascist Jan 2013 #624

Yes, that is indeed my question. How does Octafish rate his disruption be tolerated? Bolo Boffin Jan 2013 #635

"A whole group for discussing these topics going virtually unused"... AntiFascist Jan 2013 #636

It's called the Dungeon even though there's nothing dungeony about it. Bolo Boffin Jan 2013 #638

You may notice that this thread now has over 8800 views... AntiFascist Jan 2013 #645

How many people are posting in this thread? How many clicking up and down to read the replies? Bolo Boffin Jan 2013 #650

I'm not taking credit... AntiFascist Jan 2013 #653

I wonder if RFK thought Oswald was a hero? zappaman Jan 2013 #583

No. Misrepresenting what I write makes you a disruptor, zappaman. Octafish Jan 2013 #586

Bullshit zappaman Jan 2013 #589

You don't know Oswald's role? Simple - he was the killer. He acted on his own. stopbush Jan 2013 #591

I guess some people have an odd definition of "hero"... zappaman Jan 2013 #592

CIA Document 1035-960 Concerning Criticism of the Warren Report Ichingcarpenter Jan 2013 #587

Nice find, if Jesse says it ain't possible who am I to argue Rex Jan 2013 #660

The complete scanned instruction Ichingcarpenter Jan 2013 #685

What's interesting to me is when foreign leaders are killed, the first thoughts of the.... OldDem2012 Feb 2013 #796

Robert is right bluestater1966fgs Jan 2013 #631

What a bunch of bullshit. stopbush Jan 2013 #642

The biggest flaw in the Warren Commission was that it never asked the question dflprincess Feb 2013 #801

See some interesting things in the back-and-forth of this discussion Mc Mike Jan 2013 #655

Well, you certainly win this thread... zappaman Jan 2013 #657

Wow, 3 letters solves it all for you, huh, zap? Mc Mike Jan 2013 #709

Yes, 3 letters.. zappaman Jan 2013 #710

Eternally vigilant. Mc Mike Jan 2013 #713

What you can't look up the answers yourself? zappaman Jan 2013 #714

Thanks for trying to help. Mc Mike Feb 2013 #806

Amazing the lengths (stupidities?) the CTists will go to when the facts upset their apple cart. stopbush Jan 2013 #661

.... doublethink Jan 2013 #677

... doublethink Jan 2013 #683

Thanks for digging the pertinent W.C. statements out, stop. Mc Mike Jan 2013 #712

Typical CT whack-a-mole thinking. You wrote: stopbush Jan 2013 #716

@JFKLancer: When did it start? MinM Jan 2013 #679

Domestic Operations MinM Feb 2013 #794

Recommended and bookmarked. Great to see you "stir the shitstorm", Octafish! robertpaulsen Jan 2013 #692

'Arrogant' CIA Disobeys Orders in Viet Nam MinM Jan 2013 #704

Thomas Arthur Vallee MinM Jan 2013 #711

... SidDithers Feb 2013 #726

Will the RFK Jr. interview w/Charlie Rose ever air? MinM Feb 2013 #742

The MSM and RFK Jr.: Only 45 years Late this Time MinM Feb 2013 #767

I'll cross post this here... 50 reasons to continue to question after 50 years... MrMickeysMom Feb 2013 #760

How did the capture of a live Lee Harvey Oswald change the plot? MinM Feb 2013 #788

Thanks for he link to that educational debate forum, MinM... MrMickeysMom Feb 2013 #797

Kick & R n/t Dalai_1 Feb 2013 #791

I wish they were here. nt cecilfirefox Feb 2013 #793

Octafish, you created a monster mega-thread. Well done, sir! nt. OldDem2012 Feb 2013 #800

My dad always said it was Ladybird Johnson and the Texas Rangers. Pterodactyl Feb 2013 #821

Three tiny little video snippets which I thought painted a fascinating picture: Poll_Blind Feb 2013 #828

Thanks for bringing this to our attention Octafish!... 2banon Jul 2014 #845