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Ron Obvious

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27. I don't think there were winners by default

Reply to Earth_First (Reply #1)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 12:43 AM

Jan 2013

I'm pretty sure I remember reading that the tour wins were not given to the second place finishers (who were likely just as doped up to the gills as Armstrong was anyway), but rather were simply left vacant.

I've always been pretty sure Armstrong was guilty, btw. He was a relatively mediocre middle of the pack finisher before his cancer, so his sudden rise to greatness had only one likely cause. It just made too good a story for people to look into it more critically earlier.

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Lance Armstrong and Consequences [View all] Are_grits_groceries Jan 2013 OP

My father (an active competitive cyclist) and I were talking recently... Earth_First Jan 2013 #1

Armstrong has played a large part Are_grits_groceries Jan 2013 #2

as a bit of a cyclist (over 25,000 miles) hfojvt Jan 2013 #15

I don't think there were winners by default Ron Obvious Jan 2013 #27

If he threatened and intimidated and Skidmore Jan 2013 #3

Probably. Are_grits_groceries Jan 2013 #7

Lance is innocent...hopefully he'll admit nothing. ileus Jan 2013 #4

You forgot this... trumad Jan 2013 #5

you do know he is supposed to ADMIT his guilt in this interview? spanone Jan 2013 #20

What kills me is why his lawyers allowed him to do the interview duffyduff Jan 2013 #22

How about forcing him to return ALL the money won while on PEDs? wake.up.america Jan 2013 #6

I support Lance sellitman Jan 2013 #8

Is this a joke? DanTex Jan 2013 #9

Research is different than Support. sellitman Jan 2013 #14

So you really think that Livestrong has done more to help cancer victims than ACS? DanTex Jan 2013 #16

As I said, Are_grits_groceries Jan 2013 #10

Look no further than how Greg and Kathy LeMond were treated duffyduff Jan 2013 #21

he cheated. he shames his sport. and you support that? whatever. spanone Jan 2013 #11

He could have been a great hero without the lies. undeterred Jan 2013 #13

Oh, my. Words fail me. n/t duffyduff Jan 2013 #19

denial is interesting, no? It is possible to roguevalley Jan 2013 #23

To me, at least, cheating is cheating. It doen't matter , if he won or not. wake.up.america Jan 2013 #28

Just go away, Lance SoCalDem Jan 2013 #12

Armstrong is a liar and a cheat. Whisp Jan 2013 #17

He needs to be a pariah. Shame on Oprah for giving him a forum. n/t duffyduff Jan 2013 #18

WO will laugh all the way to the bank. wake.up.america Jan 2013 #26

This thread is proof that we have a athlete-worship problem in this country. Odin2005 Jan 2013 #24

How do you figure that? Prometheus Bound Jan 2013 #25