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pat_k

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131. Bullshit. The dynamics are so much more complicated that this bullshit narrative.

Wed Jul 8, 2026, 09:43 PM

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And Maine will have a new nominee and a stronger candidate against Collins than Platner was.

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Democrats Sold Their Soul for a Senate Seat [View all] PunkinPi Yesterday OP

That article is pure gaslighting WSHazel Yesterday #1

Some of us on the left didn't want him. I am literally a Berniecrat, GPV Yesterday #2

The responsibility for the "piss-poor vetting" goes to Morris Katz, the same guy who brought us Fetterman. lapucelle Yesterday #9

Anyone who thought Fetterman had a winning strategy and believed GPV Yesterday #10

Fetterman ran against the Wizard named Oz Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin 20 hrs ago #88

What if Morris Katz "didn't suck"? Cha Yesterday #11

.... lapucelle Yesterday #12

lol.. Cha Yesterday #14

All of this needs to come out in daylight. yardwork Yesterday #23

Platner had big, big boosters in the media. They shut down each and every discussion. lapucelle Yesterday #25

That needs to be investigated too. yardwork 19 hrs ago #111

+1. The 27-year-old wunderkind political strategist who will save Democrats dalton99a Yesterday #27

Thank you for links! betsuni Yesterday #37

Is it the same Morris Katz? LeftInTX Yesterday #50

Yup. N/T lapucelle Yesterday #52

I don't think that Fetterman was bad until he was hospitalized after being elected question everything Yesterday #54

Rebecca Katz served as a senior adviser and chief political strategist for John Fetterman's 2022 Senate campaign. lapucelle 23 hrs ago #57

And yet, he posted the photos of all the Israeli hostages outside his office question everything 23 hrs ago #61

Indeed he did. Fetterman was on the record as a strong supporter of Israel before his stroke. lapucelle 23 hrs ago #63

Really weird about wanting to use his own penis in a puberty book, and then including that statement in the book MichMan 22 hrs ago #71

Katz's publisher had to talk him out of using photos of his own penis in a children's book. lapucelle 22 hrs ago #72

Now that is rather disturbing. sheshe2 18 hrs ago #118

"...and wanted to use pictures of his own..." 3catwoman3 21 hrs ago #76

How about MAGAt? MorbidButterflyTat 21 hrs ago #82

I was thinking more along the lines of deviant... 3catwoman3 20 hrs ago #90

character-defining Skittles 20 hrs ago #92

Then let's fault The Establishment for failing to present an electable candidate Orrex Yesterday #3

No. There's no Excuse for Graham Planter. Cha Yesterday #5

I don't say it as an excuse for Platner. That skeevy fucker can rot in jail. Orrex Yesterday #8

Partly it's the fault of the Party. Milquetoast incrementalists. Also, GPV Yesterday #13

You're a Green Party voter who has voted for Republicans? lapucelle Yesterday #20

A shallow and dismissive stance. I've been a registered GPV Yesterday #21

So GPV doesn't stand for "Green Party Voter", and you didn't vote for a Republican? lapucelle Yesterday #24

Okay, play the purity game if it makes you happy. I can forgive you, since GPV Yesterday #28

Sorry, that doesn't work on me. lapucelle Yesterday #30

Yeah, you guys must have run off the Republican converts GPV Yesterday #32

Who ran who off? JustAnotherGen 21 hrs ago #80

Shouldn't we be celebrating their conversion to our side? TVguyCards 20 hrs ago #87

Elizabeth Warren and Hillary Clinton were both Republicans at one point EdmondDantes_ Yesterday #46

Hillary was one in JustAnotherGen 20 hrs ago #104

Thank you for complexity, nuance, and depth. mr715 23 hrs ago #59

I appreciate that. :) As an educator, it's part of my GPV 23 hrs ago #60

I have so much respect for special ed support faculty mr715 23 hrs ago #62

I'm laughing because of the bathroom anecdote. :) GPV 22 hrs ago #69

Doctors, nurses, teachers, paras. mr715 19 hrs ago #113

I hope you find a wonderful place to be. I'm in one myself, and GPV 19 hrs ago #115

It is a blessing to teach science. mr715 18 hrs ago #119

I sat in for three classes of life science per day this year, but next year we swing GPV 17 hrs ago #124

I don't have a single JustAnotherGen 20 hrs ago #101

This is like a bingo card mcar 22 hrs ago #68

String two of them together lapucelle 17 hrs ago #123

Nah, let's fault the folks who recruited, boosted, and amplified this guy. lapucelle Yesterday #17

Ooh, the "Establishment" mcar 22 hrs ago #66

IKR?! sheshe2 18 hrs ago #122

At least the Establishment never presented a rapist krawhitham 20 hrs ago #97

Swallwell WSHazel 20 hrs ago #99

That's about as low as the bar can be set Orrex 14 hrs ago #127

Bouzy is calling out the... PunkinPi Yesterday #34

I think we've gotten some great progressive, left candidates pinkstarburst Yesterday #38

Did you notice how AOC and Mamdani didn't wander anywhere near Platner Quiet Em Yesterday #42

Someone here yesterday called for Sen. Schumer to step down mcar Yesterday #47

he needs to pass the fucking baton already, regardless Skittles 19 hrs ago #108

"He was shoved down our throats by the Left" TVguyCards 20 hrs ago #86

Thanks for Bolding it, Punkin.. Cha Yesterday #4

Daniel Moraff should find other employment. harumph Yesterday #6

I started out as a Platner skeptic MustLoveBeagles Yesterday #49

The Nazi tatoo should have been enough for Democrats. redstatebluegirl 23 hrs ago #56

I agree 👍 MustLoveBeagles 23 hrs ago #58

I have yet to meet any quality people pinkstarburst 21 hrs ago #77

It was up to the voters of Maine SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #7

Not going to even read it canetoad Yesterday #15

such bullshit bigtree Yesterday #16

yes, NOW Skittles 20 hrs ago #94

Platner was supposed to be some kind of pushback to party regulars bigtree 20 hrs ago #100

bottom line is Skittles 20 hrs ago #105

That preachy BS doesnt account for Democrats wanting something different Renew Deal Yesterday #18

wanting something different is one thing Skittles 20 hrs ago #95

Exactly.... OhioBack2Blue Yesterday #19

And a lot of the responses here condemning the article prove it's point. n/t Ms. Toad Yesterday #22

the author is a AI developing scammer and promoting troll bigtree Yesterday #36

The sentiments expressed are what I have been observing in Democratic politics Ms. Toad Yesterday #41

but the people who were doing that weren't associated with the 'Pod Saves America' left bigtree Yesterday #43

The opinion piece does not mention "pod saves America." n/t Ms. Toad Yesterday #44

I included that to emphasize that Platner's support didn't come from the people the author claims bigtree Yesterday #48

The author doesn't establish who the party is they are referring to EdmondDantes_ Yesterday #26

To be fair pinkstarburst Yesterday #39

Alas we don't have a time machine. EdmondDantes_ Yesterday #53

Excellent summary of the entire mud-soaked affair Sympthsical 20 hrs ago #102

Great. I Agree. BannonsLiver Yesterday #29

He's the founder of Bot Sentinel TVguyCards 20 hrs ago #89

Thanks for the background. BannonsLiver 20 hrs ago #91

Platner could just as easily ran as MAGA YorkRd Yesterday #31

Agree blubunyip 20 hrs ago #103

Lawrence was great last night on Platner LetMyPeopleVote Yesterday #33

That he was! Thanks for posting. nt PunkinPi Yesterday #35

The voters voted for him ... the issue is the time we live in Cosmocat Yesterday #40

Retrumplicans sold their souls for misogyny, racism, fascism, white supremacy and hatred maxrandb Yesterday #45

Dear god. Garbage awesomerwb1 Yesterday #51

My favorite part ABC123Easy Yesterday #55

I got a few of those too mcar 22 hrs ago #70

Sorry ABC123Easy 22 hrs ago #74

"It's not a Nazi tattoo" sarisataka 20 hrs ago #84

Yep ABC123Easy 20 hrs ago #96

yup Skittles 20 hrs ago #98

That's right! I forgot ABC123Easy 19 hrs ago #110

sad thing is, many would still vote for him Skittles 18 hrs ago #117

Instead of getting upset with who Maine Democratic voters chose as their senate candidate... biocube 23 hrs ago #64

When did that happen? N/T lapucelle 21 hrs ago #75

Link to that happening? obamanut2012 21 hrs ago #83

Pending... lame54 22 hrs ago #65

Yeah, let's just keep doing what we've been doing since it's working out SO well for us. SMDH beaglelover 22 hrs ago #67

Voters get to make their own choice. IMO there's a better approach to pursue... 31j20b3 22 hrs ago #73

THIS. Turned out that, unknown to the electorate B.See 14 hrs ago #128

The Party ignored? JustAnotherGen 21 hrs ago #78

There is a lot of that crap to be Progressive dog 21 hrs ago #79

Who are the disgruntled white men Democrats are "chasing"?? MorbidButterflyTat 21 hrs ago #81

Not all Democrats... sarisataka 20 hrs ago #85

an utterly shameful chapter Skittles 20 hrs ago #93

Is a refund a possibility? Red Mountain 20 hrs ago #106

Divisive, simplistic nonsense Easterncedar 19 hrs ago #107

I first heard of "blue no matter who" during the 2020 primary and it was mostly centrists that were stating that AZProgressive 19 hrs ago #109

I sold my soul for rock and roll first Stacey Grove 19 hrs ago #112

I might have, but no one was buying Easterncedar 18 hrs ago #116

I can forgive him for the "Nazi" tattoo PCB66 19 hrs ago #114

Did I sell my soul? mr715 18 hrs ago #120

Stopping MAGA and Project 2025, and holding the GOP, Fox, and Heritage responsible should be our #1 priority. Initech 18 hrs ago #121

Part of the problem is, imho Dyedinthewoolliberal 14 hrs ago #125

It was a hatchet job, timing was sus duckworth969 14 hrs ago #126

We can kiss the Senate bye, bye WinningAgain 14 hrs ago #129

The claim is that "the party ignored the bigotry, the whathehell 14 hrs ago #130

Bullshit. The dynamics are so much more complicated that this bullshit narrative. pat_k 14 hrs ago #131

Exactly. Abolishinist 13 hrs ago #132

So I'm supposed to feel guilty about Maine voters nominating Platner? NOPE Vogon_Glory 12 hrs ago #133