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109. I first heard of "blue no matter who" during the 2020 primary and it was mostly centrists that were stating that

Wed Jul 8, 2026, 03:56 PM

Jul 8

I believed Tara Reade and the other women who claimed Biden rubbed their shoulders which was unwanted but I still ended up backing Biden because the other option which was Trump had multiple sexual assault allegations including with underage people.

As far as Platner I wish there was a viable third option in the primary but once I saw it wasn't affecting Maine's voters decision making I got on board like I did with Biden. There also wasn't any sexual assault allegations at the time and the person making the worst claims in the NYT article was a member of "Ladies for Kavanaugh" and a professional Republican operative so that was why I stood by him. Now that there is a sexual assault allegation so I'm willing to sacrifice him to help Talirico in Texas -- BTW I haven't heard nearly as much about Ken Paxton as much as I have heard of Platner's dating life.

I agree there are consultants and strategists that want the party to move to the right on social issues but I didn't see that as part of the campaign. He wasn't like scapegoating trans kids and immigrants as to why we don't have nice things. Voters in Maine voted for a progressive platform in-spite of the candidate rather than as favor to him.

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Democrats Sold Their Soul for a Senate Seat [View all] PunkinPi Jul 8 OP

That article is pure gaslighting WSHazel Jul 8 #1

Some of us on the left didn't want him. I am literally a Berniecrat, GPV Jul 8 #2

The responsibility for the "piss-poor vetting" goes to Morris Katz, the same guy who brought us Fetterman. lapucelle Jul 8 #9

Anyone who thought Fetterman had a winning strategy and believed GPV Jul 8 #10

Fetterman ran against the Wizard named Oz Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jul 8 #88

What if Morris Katz "didn't suck"? Cha Jul 8 #11

.... lapucelle Jul 8 #12

lol.. Cha Jul 8 #14

All of this needs to come out in daylight. yardwork Jul 8 #23

Platner had big, big boosters in the media. They shut down each and every discussion. lapucelle Jul 8 #25

That needs to be investigated too. yardwork Jul 8 #111

+1. The 27-year-old wunderkind political strategist who will save Democrats dalton99a Jul 8 #27

Thank you for links! betsuni Jul 8 #37

Is it the same Morris Katz? LeftInTX Jul 8 #50

Yup. N/T lapucelle Jul 8 #52

I don't think that Fetterman was bad until he was hospitalized after being elected question everything Jul 8 #54

Rebecca Katz served as a senior adviser and chief political strategist for John Fetterman's 2022 Senate campaign. lapucelle Jul 8 #57

And yet, he posted the photos of all the Israeli hostages outside his office question everything Jul 8 #61

Indeed he did. Fetterman was on the record as a strong supporter of Israel before his stroke. lapucelle Jul 8 #63

Really weird about wanting to use his own penis in a puberty book, and then including that statement in the book MichMan Jul 8 #71

Katz's publisher had to talk him out of using photos of his own penis in a children's book. lapucelle Jul 8 #72

Now that is rather disturbing. sheshe2 Jul 8 #118

"...and wanted to use pictures of his own..." 3catwoman3 Jul 8 #76

How about MAGAt? MorbidButterflyTat Jul 8 #82

I was thinking more along the lines of deviant... 3catwoman3 Jul 8 #90

character-defining Skittles Jul 8 #92

Then let's fault The Establishment for failing to present an electable candidate Orrex Jul 8 #3

No. There's no Excuse for Graham Planter. Cha Jul 8 #5

I don't say it as an excuse for Platner. That skeevy fucker can rot in jail. Orrex Jul 8 #8

Partly it's the fault of the Party. Milquetoast incrementalists. Also, GPV Jul 8 #13

You're a Green Party voter who has voted for Republicans? lapucelle Jul 8 #20

A shallow and dismissive stance. I've been a registered GPV Jul 8 #21

So GPV doesn't stand for "Green Party Voter", and you didn't vote for a Republican? lapucelle Jul 8 #24

Okay, play the purity game if it makes you happy. I can forgive you, since GPV Jul 8 #28

Sorry, that doesn't work on me. lapucelle Jul 8 #30

Yeah, you guys must have run off the Republican converts GPV Jul 8 #32

Who ran who off? JustAnotherGen Jul 8 #80

Shouldn't we be celebrating their conversion to our side? TVguyCards Jul 8 #87

lol... year we're so "pure"... we'ce been Cha Thursday #134

Elizabeth Warren and Hillary Clinton were both Republicans at one point EdmondDantes_ Jul 8 #46

Hillary was one in JustAnotherGen Jul 8 #104

Thank you for complexity, nuance, and depth. mr715 Jul 8 #59

I appreciate that. :) As an educator, it's part of my GPV Jul 8 #60

I have so much respect for special ed support faculty mr715 Jul 8 #62

I'm laughing because of the bathroom anecdote. :) GPV Jul 8 #69

Doctors, nurses, teachers, paras. mr715 Jul 8 #113

I hope you find a wonderful place to be. I'm in one myself, and GPV Jul 8 #115

It is a blessing to teach science. mr715 Jul 8 #119

I sat in for three classes of life science per day this year, but next year we swing GPV Jul 8 #124

I don't have a single JustAnotherGen Jul 8 #101

This is like a bingo card mcar Jul 8 #68

String two of them together lapucelle Jul 8 #123

Nah, let's fault the folks who recruited, boosted, and amplified this guy. lapucelle Jul 8 #17

Ooh, the "Establishment" mcar Jul 8 #66

IKR?! sheshe2 Jul 8 #122

At least the Establishment never presented a rapist krawhitham Jul 8 #97

Swallwell WSHazel Jul 8 #99

That's about as low as the bar can be set Orrex Jul 8 #127

Bouzy is calling out the... PunkinPi Jul 8 #34

I think we've gotten some great progressive, left candidates pinkstarburst Jul 8 #38

Did you notice how AOC and Mamdani didn't wander anywhere near Platner Quiet Em Jul 8 #42

Someone here yesterday called for Sen. Schumer to step down mcar Jul 8 #47

he needs to pass the fucking baton already, regardless Skittles Jul 8 #108

"He was shoved down our throats by the Left" TVguyCards Jul 8 #86

Thanks for Bolding it, Punkin.. Cha Jul 8 #4

Daniel Moraff should find other employment. harumph Jul 8 #6

I started out as a Platner skeptic MustLoveBeagles Jul 8 #49

The Nazi tatoo should have been enough for Democrats. redstatebluegirl Jul 8 #56

I agree 👍 MustLoveBeagles Jul 8 #58

I have yet to meet any quality people pinkstarburst Jul 8 #77

It was up to the voters of Maine SocialDemocrat61 Jul 8 #7

Not going to even read it canetoad Jul 8 #15

such bullshit bigtree Jul 8 #16

yes, NOW Skittles Jul 8 #94

Platner was supposed to be some kind of pushback to party regulars bigtree Jul 8 #100

bottom line is Skittles Jul 8 #105

That preachy BS doesnt account for Democrats wanting something different Renew Deal Jul 8 #18

wanting something different is one thing Skittles Jul 8 #95

Exactly.... OhioBack2Blue Jul 8 #19

And a lot of the responses here condemning the article prove it's point. n/t Ms. Toad Jul 8 #22

the author is a AI developing scammer and promoting troll bigtree Jul 8 #36

The sentiments expressed are what I have been observing in Democratic politics Ms. Toad Jul 8 #41

but the people who were doing that weren't associated with the 'Pod Saves America' left bigtree Jul 8 #43

The opinion piece does not mention "pod saves America." n/t Ms. Toad Jul 8 #44

I included that to emphasize that Platner's support didn't come from the people the author claims bigtree Jul 8 #48

The author doesn't establish who the party is they are referring to EdmondDantes_ Jul 8 #26

To be fair pinkstarburst Jul 8 #39

Alas we don't have a time machine. EdmondDantes_ Jul 8 #53

Excellent summary of the entire mud-soaked affair Sympthsical Jul 8 #102

Great. I Agree. BannonsLiver Jul 8 #29

He's the founder of Bot Sentinel TVguyCards Jul 8 #89

Thanks for the background. BannonsLiver Jul 8 #91

Platner could just as easily ran as MAGA YorkRd Jul 8 #31

Agree blubunyip Jul 8 #103

Lawrence was great last night on Platner LetMyPeopleVote Jul 8 #33

That he was! Thanks for posting. nt PunkinPi Jul 8 #35

The voters voted for him ... the issue is the time we live in Cosmocat Jul 8 #40

Retrumplicans sold their souls for misogyny, racism, fascism, white supremacy and hatred maxrandb Jul 8 #45

Dear god. Garbage awesomerwb1 Jul 8 #51

My favorite part ABC123Easy Jul 8 #55

I got a few of those too mcar Jul 8 #70

Sorry ABC123Easy Jul 8 #74

"It's not a Nazi tattoo" sarisataka Jul 8 #84

Yep ABC123Easy Jul 8 #96

yup Skittles Jul 8 #98

That's right! I forgot ABC123Easy Jul 8 #110

sad thing is, many would still vote for him Skittles Jul 8 #117

Instead of getting upset with who Maine Democratic voters chose as their senate candidate... biocube Jul 8 #64

When did that happen? N/T lapucelle Jul 8 #75

Link to that happening? obamanut2012 Jul 8 #83

Pending... lame54 Jul 8 #65

Yeah, let's just keep doing what we've been doing since it's working out SO well for us. SMDH beaglelover Jul 8 #67

Voters get to make their own choice. IMO there's a better approach to pursue... 31j20b3 Jul 8 #73

THIS. Turned out that, unknown to the electorate B.See Jul 8 #128

The Party ignored? JustAnotherGen Jul 8 #78

There is a lot of that crap to be Progressive dog Jul 8 #79

Who are the disgruntled white men Democrats are "chasing"?? MorbidButterflyTat Jul 8 #81

Not all Democrats... sarisataka Jul 8 #85

an utterly shameful chapter Skittles Jul 8 #93

Is a refund a possibility? Red Mountain Jul 8 #106

Divisive, simplistic nonsense Easterncedar Jul 8 #107

I first heard of "blue no matter who" during the 2020 primary and it was mostly centrists that were stating that AZProgressive Jul 8 #109

I sold my soul for rock and roll first Stacey Grove Jul 8 #112

I might have, but no one was buying Easterncedar Jul 8 #116

I can forgive him for the "Nazi" tattoo PCB66 Jul 8 #114

Did I sell my soul? mr715 Jul 8 #120

Stopping MAGA and Project 2025, and holding the GOP, Fox, and Heritage responsible should be our #1 priority. Initech Jul 8 #121

Part of the problem is, imho Dyedinthewoolliberal Jul 8 #125

It was a hatchet job, timing was sus duckworth969 Jul 8 #126

We can kiss the Senate bye, bye WinningAgain Jul 8 #129

The claim is that "the party ignored the bigotry, the whathehell Jul 8 #130

Bullshit. The dynamics are so much more complicated that this bullshit narrative. pat_k Jul 8 #131

Exactly. Abolishinist Jul 8 #132

So I'm supposed to feel guilty about Maine voters nominating Platner? NOPE Vogon_Glory Jul 8 #133