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Kaleva

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52. Lincoln was self taught and grew up poor

Wed Jul 8, 2026, 01:53 PM

10 hrs ago

“ The man was one of the most successful lawyers and political minds in Springfield.“

Quite exceptional for a man who never attended law school and who, by his account, had no more then 12 months of formal schooling as a child.

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Platner: Astro-Turfed Authenticity [View all] QueerDuck 16 hrs ago OP

As someone who has contempt for police, would like to see the party move to the left, etc., I want to add that it is WhiskeyGrinder 15 hrs ago #1

Indeed... a bad fit from the beginning. QueerDuck 15 hrs ago #2

I think we need more information. yardwork 15 hrs ago #11

Increasingly, the consultants and activists groups are doing the vetting. Parties don't have the money, time or WhiskeyGrinder 14 hrs ago #16

Well, there's a big problem right there if searches are farmed out to consulting firms. yardwork 9 hrs ago #62

I need some answers. Like who were these the people doing the veting? What's the source of your bio of Platner? flashman13 12 hrs ago #36

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Do you trust Lawrence O'Donnell mcar 7 hrs ago #68

I do. That was a great segment. QueerDuck 5 hrs ago #72

Yes, they weren't excited about their other options. LisaL 15 hrs ago #3

"Too boring" ... The danger of demanding a political soulmate. QueerDuck 15 hrs ago #7

We haven't dodged a bullet because he has to step down. LisaL 15 hrs ago #8

True. I'm hoping that calmer and rational thought prevails... QueerDuck 15 hrs ago #9

I'm hoping that his wife or someone else he trusts spooky3 13 hrs ago #29

It wasn't just the "vetters" (whoever they are) who were OK with Platner's flaws Fiendish Thingy 15 hrs ago #4

And some of the people still are. LisaL 15 hrs ago #5

It would be difficult to get an indictment without physical evidence Fiendish Thingy 15 hrs ago #10

Her testimony is considered evidence. LisaL 15 hrs ago #13

Since it's a felony, it would have to go to a grand jury to get an indictment Fiendish Thingy 15 hrs ago #15

Grand Jury just indicted a supposed pool vandal. LisaL 14 hrs ago #17

They also indicted Comey and Tish James Fiendish Thingy 14 hrs ago #19

E.Jean Carroll won her case. Her evidence sufficed, and spooky3 13 hrs ago #30

That was a civil suit, where the burden of proof is far lower Fiendish Thingy 13 hrs ago #33

True, but my point still stands. spooky3 12 hrs ago #34

And my point still stands Fiendish Thingy 12 hrs ago #42

In this twisted world, it only depends on the DA in question mdbl 13 hrs ago #27

That's just the thing... it appears to me that their job was not to vet, but to scrub and polish... QueerDuck 15 hrs ago #12

A campaign strategist can make or break you. LeftInTX 11 hrs ago #50

Absolutely Good Work QueerDuck (Thank You) ahnakneemoose 15 hrs ago #6

Isn't it odd that most of we Democrats doubted Platner's honesty and authenticity from the beginning... Escape 15 hrs ago #14

We can't toss him. LisaL 14 hrs ago #18

I hope he doesn't step down. BComplex 12 hrs ago #45

The candidate's own actions tell a different story. QueerDuck 8 hrs ago #65

Yet they keep winning elections and have a devoted cult mdbl 13 hrs ago #28

Populist Them (establishment elites) vs Us (The People, the working class). betsuni 14 hrs ago #20

Only working class white men mcar 13 hrs ago #26

"What you're talking about is identity politics. We are so proud that for the first time we have a judge betsuni 10 hrs ago #53

... mcar 9 hrs ago #56

Platner posted a few years ago that "Black people don't tip" MichMan 7 hrs ago #66

Lawrence was great on Platner on the Last Word LetMyPeopleVote 14 hrs ago #21

Yes... that was excellent. QueerDuck 14 hrs ago #24

Thank you for this information Progressive dog 14 hrs ago #22

Like many, I was leery of him from the beginning, PatSeg 14 hrs ago #23

Yes. There was a lot of bullying and attempts to silence critics. This was coming from his campaign... QueerDuck 13 hrs ago #25

If you spoke out you were deemed a traitor to "the cause." It just wasn't coming from his campaign, it Raftergirl 12 hrs ago #39

Exactly PatSeg 12 hrs ago #40

I think Bernie's endorsement propelled him. boston bean 13 hrs ago #31

You're absolutely correct. QueerDuck 12 hrs ago #35

One thing about Platner that has not been mentioned in this thread -- he's a very talented speaker. He also gives good Fil1957 13 hrs ago #32

I agree. Nt spooky3 12 hrs ago #37

That is what caused me to brush aside my misgivings MustLoveBeagles 11 hrs ago #46

Spot on. Charisma is exactly why rigorous and honest vetting is vital. QueerDuck 7 hrs ago #67

You would've hated Abraham Lincoln Sympthsical 12 hrs ago #38

There is a vast difference between standard marketing and material fraud. QueerDuck 11 hrs ago #48

Seriously. So many politicians do this. Sympthsical 11 hrs ago #49

A simple misunderstanding of terms. QueerDuck 10 hrs ago #51

Swalwell had institutional vetting Sympthsical 10 hrs ago #55

I still can't past the Nazi tattoo! And he didn't get rid of it until after it was made public. LeftInTX 9 hrs ago #58

There's so much faux hand-wringing about this Sympthsical 9 hrs ago #61

His strategist could have dumped him early on. It happens. It wasn't his idea to run. LeftInTX 9 hrs ago #64

What a fighter! MorbidButterflyTat 7 hrs ago #69

Lincoln was self taught and grew up poor Kaleva 10 hrs ago #52

Absolutely Sympthsical 10 hrs ago #54

Actually a lot of that information on his background karynnj 12 hrs ago #43

This is the worst dodged bullet since Trump's ear. mr715 12 hrs ago #44

Agreed MustLoveBeagles 11 hrs ago #47

Note to self... "do not read anything from mr715 with food in my mouth" QueerDuck 9 hrs ago #59

Never gets old! MorbidButterflyTat 7 hrs ago #70

You are correct Keepthesoulalive 9 hrs ago #57

It wasn't a swastika, it was a SS totenkopf. MichMan 9 hrs ago #60

German or Nazi military history I will not get in the weeds with Keepthesoulalive 9 hrs ago #63

Actually it looked like what it was, a Nazi SS Deaths Head tattoo EX500rider 7 hrs ago #71