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Wiz Imp

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6. On top of that, if cost relative to value was the real issue, nickels should be discontinued first.
Sat Dec 13, 2025, 09:29 PM
Yesterday

Total cost of making a penny is 3.69 cents
In 2024, the US mint produced 3,225,200,000 pennies which resulted in an annual loss to taxpayers of $85.3 million.

Total cost of making a nickel is 13.78 cents
The 2024 production of nickels was 112,800,000, resulting in an annual loss to taxpayers of $17.7 million.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/10/business/costs-of-pennies-and-nickels

Phasing out the penny could result in needing to make more nickels, and the US Treasury Department loses far more money on every nickel than it does on every penny.

“Without the penny, the volume of nickels in circulation would have to rise to fill the gap in small-value transactions. Far from saving money, eliminating the penny shifts and amplifies the financial burden,” said American for Common Cents, a pro-penny group funded primarily by Artazn, the company that has the contract to provide the blanks used to make pennies.


On the other hand, pennies don't change hands anywhere close to once a day over 30 years.
One reason that the government has to make so many pennies every year is a large percentage of them don’t remain in circulation. They are stashed in penny jars or junk drawers at home. Or they fall on the ground and people don’t even bother to pick them up.

An estimated 66 to 74 percent of the pennies produced by the U.S. Mint vanish from active circulation after reaching consumers, primarily due to hoarding in jars and general loss. While the U.S. Mint's official lifespan for a coin is 30 years, a large majority of pennies are effectively removed from daily commerce much sooner. A 2022 government analysis estimated that about 60% of all circulating pennies are stashed in homes.


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How did he make money killing the penny? Irish_Dem Yesterday #1
I stumbled upon a right wing screed recently which for some reason... Hugin Yesterday #13
Who gets all the pennies, and how much are they worth? Irish_Dem 16 hrs ago #37
Personally, I believe it goes back to a grudge against a dead guy. Hugin 15 hrs ago #38
Getting revenge and grifting at the same time. Irish_Dem 15 hrs ago #39
Americans are weakest about what... Hugin 15 hrs ago #40
The evil geniuses installed the perfect snake oil salesman. Irish_Dem 13 hrs ago #42
Except They're Not Rare Earth Metals ProfessorGAC 7 hrs ago #49
lincoln freed theslaves very bad person rampartd 23 hrs ago #26
Oh geez I had not thought of that. Of course. Irish_Dem 13 hrs ago #43
That's a good argument. Should be shared widely. bucolic_frolic Yesterday #2
I haven't heard one issue he's tackling make any sense or justification for his decisions..the penny Deuxcents Yesterday #3
This is not a new idea, as far back as 2008 Abolishinist Yesterday #4
next time you run for president promise to implode the ball room rampartd 23 hrs ago #30
Pennies were eliminated in Canada a long time ago. jeffreyi Yesterday #5
Other countries think this through and do planned phase-outs rather than just act on impulse. Eugene Yesterday #8
During WWII, pennies were made out of steel Deminpenn 23 hrs ago #23
There's a whole documentary about it. eggplant Yesterday #16
Its inevitable. Not Trumps idea. Just common sense. LiberalLovinLug Yesterday #18
On top of that, if cost relative to value was the real issue, nickels should be discontinued first. Wiz Imp Yesterday #6
The volume of nickels shouldn't need to increase if the penny is discontinued. eggplant Yesterday #17
Most experts disagree with you including the Federal Reserve. Wiz Imp 23 hrs ago #28
Locally, Giant Eagle grocery stores offered $1 in gift cards for every 50 penny roll Deminpenn 23 hrs ago #27
A mill is one tenth of a penny Bmoboy Yesterday #7
Krugman says the penny is no longer relevant. It is obsolete. We should also start minting one-dollar and two-dollar Martin68 Yesterday #9
The problem with that is vending machines don't take dollar coins Deminpenn 23 hrs ago #29
In Canada our vending machines take $1 and $2 coins. Most adults use their debit or credit cards on the machines. Bev54 23 hrs ago #32
That's nice to know Deminpenn 23 hrs ago #34
Exactly. I used to spend every summer in Ontario, and I thought one and two dollar coins were great. Martin68 8 hrs ago #47
Yes most people have their cards on their phones now so just tap the phone. Bev54 7 hrs ago #48
If the penny is dead, BlueSpot 22 hrs ago #35
That's like a blacksmith saying "we don't have horseshoes for automobiles. Let's stick with horses." Martin68 8 hrs ago #46
It is an issue when you're dealing with a moron that can only focus on one thought at a time. Trump is really flashman13 Yesterday #10
Translation: Bessent plans on embezzling the nation's copper reserves. intheflow Yesterday #11
Not really a lot of copper in pennies any more... Wounded Bear 23 hrs ago #21
Even so, a quart jar full of pennies is $18.00 yellowdogintexas 22 hrs ago #36
Actually, I don't think pennies circulate much at all. patphil Yesterday #12
much hue and cry in advocacy - for a token that consumers in large part refuse to use stopdiggin Yesterday #15
He wants to destroy everything and anything he can. RockRaven Yesterday #14
They've discussed killing the penny forever. Melon Yesterday #19
Yeah, they can blame/give credit to trump if they like, but it's been in the works for a while...nt Wounded Bear 23 hrs ago #22
That's right, it doesn't make any cents! KelleyKramer 23 hrs ago #20
If a penny costs 3.69 cents to make, but a dollar only costs 4.1 cents to make*, then the face value argument... Ol Janx Spirit 23 hrs ago #24
Even if so, the thing to do is to make 2-cent coins that look almost like cents (not pennies -- there is no US penny). eppur_se_muova 23 hrs ago #25
Getting rid of the penny is a fairly old idea dsc 23 hrs ago #31
Seigniorage Deminpenn 23 hrs ago #33
1/2 Cent, Two-Cent piece, Three Cent piece, Silver Half-Dimes, Twenty-Cent piece, and Emile 15 hrs ago #41
I hate having loose coins. MichMan 13 hrs ago #44
In Panama, pennies are necessary PJMcK 11 hrs ago #45
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