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In reply to the discussion: Trump's claimed justification for ending the penny makes no sense at all [View all]Wiz Imp
(8,551 posts)6. On top of that, if cost relative to value was the real issue, nickels should be discontinued first.
Total cost of making a penny is 3.69 cents
In 2024, the US mint produced 3,225,200,000 pennies which resulted in an annual loss to taxpayers of $85.3 million.
Total cost of making a nickel is 13.78 cents
The 2024 production of nickels was 112,800,000, resulting in an annual loss to taxpayers of $17.7 million.
https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/10/business/costs-of-pennies-and-nickels
Phasing out the penny could result in needing to make more nickels, and the US Treasury Department loses far more money on every nickel than it does on every penny.
Without the penny, the volume of nickels in circulation would have to rise to fill the gap in small-value transactions. Far from saving money, eliminating the penny shifts and amplifies the financial burden, said American for Common Cents, a pro-penny group funded primarily by Artazn, the company that has the contract to provide the blanks used to make pennies.
Without the penny, the volume of nickels in circulation would have to rise to fill the gap in small-value transactions. Far from saving money, eliminating the penny shifts and amplifies the financial burden, said American for Common Cents, a pro-penny group funded primarily by Artazn, the company that has the contract to provide the blanks used to make pennies.
On the other hand, pennies don't change hands anywhere close to once a day over 30 years.
One reason that the government has to make so many pennies every year is a large percentage of them dont remain in circulation. They are stashed in penny jars or junk drawers at home. Or they fall on the ground and people dont even bother to pick them up.
An estimated 66 to 74 percent of the pennies produced by the U.S. Mint vanish from active circulation after reaching consumers, primarily due to hoarding in jars and general loss. While the U.S. Mint's official lifespan for a coin is 30 years, a large majority of pennies are effectively removed from daily commerce much sooner. A 2022 government analysis estimated that about 60% of all circulating pennies are stashed in homes.
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Trump's claimed justification for ending the penny makes no sense at all [View all]
jmowreader
Yesterday
OP
I haven't heard one issue he's tackling make any sense or justification for his decisions..the penny
Deuxcents
Yesterday
#3
Other countries think this through and do planned phase-outs rather than just act on impulse.
Eugene
Yesterday
#8
On top of that, if cost relative to value was the real issue, nickels should be discontinued first.
Wiz Imp
Yesterday
#6
The volume of nickels shouldn't need to increase if the penny is discontinued.
eggplant
Yesterday
#17
Locally, Giant Eagle grocery stores offered $1 in gift cards for every 50 penny roll
Deminpenn
23 hrs ago
#27
Krugman says the penny is no longer relevant. It is obsolete. We should also start minting one-dollar and two-dollar
Martin68
Yesterday
#9
In Canada our vending machines take $1 and $2 coins. Most adults use their debit or credit cards on the machines.
Bev54
23 hrs ago
#32
Exactly. I used to spend every summer in Ontario, and I thought one and two dollar coins were great.
Martin68
8 hrs ago
#47
That's like a blacksmith saying "we don't have horseshoes for automobiles. Let's stick with horses."
Martin68
8 hrs ago
#46
It is an issue when you're dealing with a moron that can only focus on one thought at a time. Trump is really
flashman13
Yesterday
#10
much hue and cry in advocacy - for a token that consumers in large part refuse to use
stopdiggin
Yesterday
#15
Yeah, they can blame/give credit to trump if they like, but it's been in the works for a while...nt
Wounded Bear
23 hrs ago
#22
If a penny costs 3.69 cents to make, but a dollar only costs 4.1 cents to make*, then the face value argument...
Ol Janx Spirit
23 hrs ago
#24
Even if so, the thing to do is to make 2-cent coins that look almost like cents (not pennies -- there is no US penny).
eppur_se_muova
23 hrs ago
#25