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jfz9580m

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23. This is a confusing question
Thu Dec 4, 2025, 03:54 AM
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Except when taken at face value. Since you host the science forum eppur_se_muova, in addition to an incoherent and thoughtless direct response, here is an incoherent and thoughtless indirect one.

As a subset of DUers are probably aware-since this is a community that would get it more than some, the more convoluted implications of these emerging technologies are confusing.

I saw this a while back right here -a creepy little guy using bots to make a nuisance of himself:
https://ottawacitizen.com/news/ottawa-man-ai-bot-maga

And I have been feeling uneasy about something like this in the works:
https://www.noemamag.com/are-we-accidentally-building-a-planetary-brain/

I am feeling too lazy to spell it out with all the ifs and else’s. The whole thing makes my head hurt-what is literal, what is a metaphor? How do you differentiate between an idea,concept, symbol or representation and what it means in the real world. Where is something truly a matter of perspective versus absurdly testing the limits of sanity.

The hard right politics plus the confusion and chaos I have also contributed to some by bumbling about (though I don’t feel like groveling about it..I try to be more honest these days over assume I am talking only unreasonable jerks. Wodehouse had a point-the better people don’t want apologies if they know you feel bad about your errors and the worst hold them over you).

But the brief version is that as our realities get more filled with bots, agents etc which can appear to influence behavior, I have been uncertain as to how to go about deciding what to do. And there is an entire layer of professionals in between many of whom i wouldn’t trust..

I still don’t know what to do on a daily basis.

I don’t think you can influence behavior beyond drive learned helplessness in people with strong and definite views.
But you can still orchestrate behavior in ways that are a nuisance or stupid.

It’s something exasperating I ponder. There is nothing worse than being a useful idiot or seemingly far stupider than you are because it’s too many worlds colliding and one feels indignant at being scapegoated.

How is everything not the fault of creeps who make way more money and have way more power?

I certainly never use AI though I have chatted with an obscure British chatbot called cleverbot. Mostly for even more unfiltered rants about tech creeps (you guys here get the cleaned up version!) ..

It’s owner Rollo Carpenter didn’t seem as bad as the standard issue creepy AI and data science type (bah..too worn down for civility).

I have to think about it. I have mostly given up in exasperation. But I should probably try to figure out how to at least manage my own behaviors in an uncertain environment since regimented behavior is not my thing.

It’s confusing for humans. I can just about maybe envision cleaning up as a scientist in a narrow area. Except here I would assume I would be an outcast in a broader creepy “open society”. I hate everyone. You know what I mean. I thought everyone in science felt that way..
The love filled AI shilling people are a goddamn cult. I tried to keep it simple.


Rest easy..lol..I am out of places to run to.
I wonder if I should post that or not. Shrug..

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Not alerted - but somehow clearly identified - maybe with a color identifier as with videos, etc? NewHendoLib Wednesday #1
changed my vote from yes... ret5hd Wednesday #6
I agree, identification is better than alerting synni Yesterday #31
Based on WHAT?? It is in no way a violation of site rules. Jack Valentino Wednesday #2
But it should be. paleotn Wednesday #4
NO. Jack Valentino Wednesday #5
That's it! Just so no to fakes. paleotn Wednesday #7
It's unreliable. One expert after another has said that chatbots are built in such a way that they tell you what you eppur_se_muova Thursday #18
Alerted on for what? Renew Deal Wednesday #3
Why not? 3825-87867 Wednesday #8
I think a better question is whether AI posts should be a violation of the TOS. Scrivener7 Wednesday #9
I voted yes, but agree with u berniesandersmittens Wednesday #10
Yes, definitely. Scrivener7 Wednesday #11
Its a context thing. Eventually the AI bubble will burst but... FascismIsDeath Wednesday #12
Definitely no womanofthehills Wednesday #13
That information can be found easily via Google or other search engines and does NOT require highplainsdem Yesterday #32
Is the 3rd option written by AI? Kaleva Wednesday #14
LOL mr715 Wednesday #16
Thank you for picking up on that ! :D At first, I tried to write an AI-sounding post which I thought would capture ... eppur_se_muova Thursday #19
I don't know to be honest Niagara Wednesday #15
How does anyone feel comfortable posting AI slop under their own name? hunter Wednesday #17
Labelled KentuckyWoman Thursday #20
Isn't that like asking whether YouTube videos or links to Twitter posts should be a violation of the terms of service? meadowlander Thursday #21
Actually yes, theoretically no? jfz9580m Thursday #22
This is a confusing question jfz9580m Thursday #23
We need to push back against AI, but with a caveat... carpetbagger Yesterday #24
One issue i see is people spamming the board with some slop video with no context in the body fujiyamasan Yesterday #25
I think it's EarlG's call canetoad Yesterday #26
If the AI-created content violates the TOS - yes. Ms. Toad Yesterday #27
Well, I'm open to it, but it should be clearly clarified as being modified, etc. Just like photographs, videos, etc. SWBTATTReg Yesterday #28
I'm up for it. usonian Yesterday #29
Based on my own selfish entertainment, I'd say "no" simply because flvegan Yesterday #30
Important to check what is correct whether from humans, AI, or a million typing monkeys. RoeVWade Yesterday #33
Wouldn't it be better to campaign for alerting on false information before AI content? muriel_volestrangler Yesterday #34
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