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Warpy

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26. How about Ukraine's action against 2 "shadow fleet" tankers in the Black Sea?

Tue Dec 2, 2025, 05:11 PM

Dec 2

Ukraine did it right, using air based drones to start fires in the engine room and waiting for the crews to be evacuated before sending in the Sea Baby drones to finish the job. However, it was sinking nominally civilian ships carrying supposed contraband in international waters.

In Ukraine's case, they targeted empty tankers flying non Russian flags but which were headed toward the one remaining Black Sea oil depot. In the case of the US, they targeted speed boats that carried no fishing gear but which did carry large packages wrapped in plastic. Probable cause isn't what you think it is, not in international waters. Nor is due process, although survivors are to be picked up, not blown up. The latter is why this is a scandal, not the attacks against the strongly suspected drug delivery boats.

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You can always count on the media to focus on the wrong thing. [View all] drray23 Dec 2 OP

It's been many years since I counted on the media for anything of NewHendoLib Dec 2 #1

Thank you! This has bothered me since the first boat was hit. Nt spooky3 Dec 2 #2

If stopping REAL drug shipments is the goal, the Coast Guard does in extremely well Attilatheblond Dec 2 #3

If stopping drug influx were the point, he wouldn't have just pardoned that shitbag SheltieLover Dec 2 #8

Yep. It's like he thinks all of us are as dim and forgetful as his die-hard maga cultists. Attilatheblond Dec 2 #10

Exactly! Hoping Aftyn wins big in TN today. SheltieLover Dec 2 #11

Yes... propaganda porn! A new phrase I like a lot! slightlv Dec 2 #17

Not only have I let go of MSM way back in the Bush era peacebuzzard Dec 2 #4

A word from the Don usonian Dec 2 #5

Exactly! SheltieLover Dec 2 #7

That was mine but thanks for putting it up. I lack the ability. The rattles are a nice touch. twodogsbarking Dec 2 #16

Oh yes, the text. Thanks. usonian Dec 2 #24

Ya dun good. twodogsbarking Dec 2 #25

Always pay attention to what they don't say, if you are of a mind to watch them lie SheltieLover Dec 2 #6

Even-handed coverage... hay rick Dec 2 #9

They aren't "tricked": it's called framing the narrative robbob Dec 2 #12

Always read between the lines with these people. slightlv Dec 2 #19

Striking a civilian boat in international waters Warpy Dec 2 #13

It is? Cirsium Dec 2 #14

How about Ukraine's action against 2 "shadow fleet" tankers in the Black Sea? Warpy Dec 2 #26

Apparently you are serious Cirsium Dec 2 #33

Yeah if any used their brains they would realize this was murder. No proof they are drug dealers, Bev54 Dec 2 #15

I see this whole thing as trump proving his prior statement slightlv Dec 2 #20

All very good questions that none of us seem to have any answers for. I hope he can be stopped Bev54 Dec 2 #27

A "minority rule system" is the 600 richest Americans KS Toronado Dec 3 #34

And they sure aren't talking about the EPSTEIN FILES - TBF Dec 2 #18

rupertan. war crimes began w/ GW. cheeney. torture is fine. abu grabe. pansypoo53219 Dec 2 #21

Our current mass media gives whoring one's self a bad name. (n/t) Moostache Dec 2 #22

I agree, the strikes have been unlawful from the beginning. I can't watch the news. I keep screaming at the TV. Walleye Dec 2 #23

Except... ProfessorGAC Dec 2 #28

No. They declared he is immune from the consequences of ordering it. drray23 Dec 2 #29

A Distinction Without A Difference ProfessorGAC Dec 2 #30

Magicians! damifino10 Dec 2 #31

They aren't "tricked" into anything. BlueTsunami2018 Dec 2 #32