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AllyCat

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Mon Dec 1, 2025, 11:50 AM Dec 1

MAGA nurse I work with and "professional nurses" [View all]

Yesterday, I made a quip at work about management's efforts to reduce our pay/overtime while still getting us to do the work (for less money). MAGA RN had just finished a double shift, because there was no one to replace her after her first shift ended. She asked me for union help to negotiate the way management was trying to claim she couldn't get overtime for her double shift.

When we were done with strategizing, I made the comment "well, now that we aren't 'professionals' anymore, I suspect we will see more of this from management".

Here's how her mental gymnastics worked to defend the DoE decision to downgrade RNs from professional status:

MAGA RN: This is only to make it so universities can't gouge students trying to get Masters and Doctorate degrees in nursing.
AllyCat: So, why wouldn't the DoE have made it so ALL graduate programs less expensive? Why just nurses and teachers? (yes, I know it's more than those 2 groups)

MR: Well, it only affects graduate-degree nurses, not us (Bachelors).
AC: It is interesting these are both professions with largely female workers.

MR: This is how the DoE is recognizing that women have lower earning power and this helps women in the long run be able to afford school.
AC: (walks away shaking head)

This is how they are rationalizing this. I only had 20 seconds and would love to have launched into "Why downgrade nurses at any level?" and any number of other arguments, but MAGA is telling women this is good for them and helps them.

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As an RN, I often say, "Nurses eat their own....." FarPoint Dec 1 #1
Who does she think runs the undergrad nursing programs? Irish_Dem Dec 1 #2
Would love to have had the time to get into that part of it. AllyCat Dec 1 #3
Maybe GOP long term plan to cut medical care costs? Just get rid of the real care-providers and let people die Attilatheblond Dec 1 #8
Yes the rich do not want money going to the sick for healthcare. Irish_Dem Dec 1 #12
Or letting people of different ethnic groups even stay in the US unless they are VERY rich and will pay up Attilatheblond Dec 1 #23
Women who are not totally subservient must go as well. Irish_Dem Dec 1 #29
Any thinking female not replaced by a Stepford bot is gonna have to fight. Attilatheblond Dec 1 #31
One hospital I worked at stopped identifying our role on our nametags so the travelingthrulife Dec 2 #41
NY state in 1976 mgardener Dec 1 #4
And they/we definitely ARE professional. However, AllyCat Dec 1 #5
Rural people elected Trump and he is literally killing them. yardwork Dec 1 #7
They're killing themselves BaronChocula Dec 1 #15
Amazing, isn't it...... popsdenver Dec 1 #16
They voted for a Jim Jones death cult. Irish_Dem Dec 1 #30
They really did. yardwork Dec 1 #33
They are doing a Darwin, making themselves extinct. Irish_Dem Dec 1 #34
I've found it's impossible to use logic to reach MAGATs, especially the conservative Christians. yardwork Dec 1 #6
From Professor Altemeyer: markodochartaigh Dec 2 #40
Many nurses and medical technicians are also foreign-born as well as female FakeNoose Dec 1 #9
You can't fix stupid NewEnglandAutumn Dec 1 #10
LOL NEA popsdenver Dec 1 #14
Headline should read: OhioBack2Blue Dec 1 #11
And it's a shame because she is an excellent nurse. Welcome to DU! AllyCat Dec 1 #13
Anyone who has to do so many mental gymnastics to avoid reality may not be a good nurse. Irish_Dem Dec 1 #32
Tell her lower pay and benefits are also good for women... Trueblue Texan Dec 1 #17
You can't argue with MAGA, because they use the same tactics as apologetics sakabatou Dec 1 #18
Still professional with state license bayberry Dec 1 #19
How does one become a nurse or an educator or a physical therapist AllyCat Dec 1 #22
I worked with Just Jerome Dec 1 #20
Jesus Lemon Lyman Dec 1 #21
I've dated 5 nurses in my lifetime, Pas-de-Calais Dec 1 #24
😢 AllyCat Dec 1 #26
MAGA proponents have well and truly brainwashed the MAGA-verse. They have a bullshit answer for every dubious move Martin68 Dec 1 #25
It is indeed brainwashing. hadEnuf Dec 2 #36
Absolutely. markodochartaigh Dec 2 #39
Frankly, I don't see how it could have been missed. hadEnuf Dec 2 #43
Is she smart enought to work as a nurse? mgardener Dec 1 #27
That she acknowledges that women have lower earning power put her at 9dds with maga BlueWaveNeverEnd Dec 1 #28
The pretzel logic used by MAGA is both daunting and disgusting wolfie001 Dec 2 #35
What an idiot!! LilElf70 Dec 2 #37
The very large public hospital in markodochartaigh Dec 2 #38
I think "Well, it only affects graduate-degree nurses, not us" says a lot of it ToxMarz Dec 2 #42
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