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8. Remember the U.S. soldiers who gunned down civilians from Apache helicopters in Baghdad back in 2007?

Sun Nov 30, 2025, 04:11 PM

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The airstrike killed 12 civilians, including two Reuters journalists. In a follow-up strike the crew fired on a van whose driver was attempting to help the wounded, killing him and wounding his two children in the vehicle. The classified video footage was later leaked to WikiLeaks by U.S. Army intelligence analyst Chelsea Manning, and released to the public in 2010 under the title "Collateral Murder."

The video and audio, which included the crew's casual commentary and laughter, caused a global outcry and prompted human rights organizations to call for an independent investigation. No legal action was taken against the Apache helicopter crews. A U.S. military investigation concluded the actions were justified under the rules of engagement. The only person to face legal consequences was Chelsea Manning, who was arrested, convicted and sentenced to 35 years in prison. Manning's sentence was later commuted by President Obama.

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It's clear now. Our military will carry out illegal orders. [View all] 2 Meow Momma Nov 30 OP

What's next? "Kill them all" orders on US soil against Americans? Irish_Dem Nov 30 #1

Is it clear? Fiendish Thingy Nov 30 #2

Thank you, MarineCombatEngineer Nov 30 #4

Ok, some carry out illegal orders and some don't. 2 Meow Momma Nov 30 #10

This is what i have slightlv Nov 30 #14

Thanks. It's like they WANT things to get out of control. paleotn Nov 30 #15

Apparently carried out by Seal team 6 members. Should they not know better? Bev54 Nov 30 #22

This was as much trial balloon as incident. / nt bucolic_frolic Nov 30 #3

This message was self-deleted by its author MarineCombatEngineer Nov 30 #5

All involved should go to prison for a very, very long time. Lets hope an international court will get the ball rolling yaesu Nov 30 #6

Trashing this thread for the nonsense. nt MarineCombatEngineer Nov 30 #7

Remember the U.S. soldiers who gunned down civilians from Apache helicopters in Baghdad back in 2007? sop Nov 30 #8

It has always been clear that some will. Look at US history, ffs. RockRaven Nov 30 #9

Some might not shoot, Dan Nov 30 #11

And some will shoot with malice and glee. ("When can we start using these?") erronis Nov 30 #12

Soldiers? What were they doing? Swimming? paleotn Nov 30 #13

I should have written "service members", not soldiers. 2 Meow Momma Nov 30 #21

Even if once is too much, two words: Kent State duckworth969 Nov 30 #16

Two words LilElf70 Nov 30 #17

Two other words: AverageOldGuy Nov 30 #18

It is a worry. Aussie105 Nov 30 #19

And that Admiral COL Mustard Nov 30 #20

Thank you! I thought I heard that right. nt 2 Meow Momma Nov 30 #24

Thus far we have BaronChocula Nov 30 #23

We have them shooting live ammo at protesters not just non lethal. They shot a lady five times and she lived Blues Heron Nov 30 #28

Yes but BaronChocula Nov 30 #31

28 of 77 national Guardsmen shot at Kent State, the rest refused. kerry-is-my-prez Nov 30 #25

That's my thinking too. The military will kill civilians in the US. Bread and Circuses Nov 30 #26

Correct, there are no orders the military will not follow - which boat strike did they refuse? None of them Blues Heron Nov 30 #27

The problem is... WHO judges legality? WarGamer Nov 30 #29

I actually believe soldiers wouldn't carry out that order. PragmaticLiberal Nov 30 #30

Jesus Fucking Christ.nt LexVegas Nov 30 #32