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Bluetus

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32. I know many people exactly as you described.
Sat Nov 29, 2025, 03:57 PM
Nov 29

Last edited Sat Nov 29, 2025, 05:38 PM - Edit history (2)

We tend to treat Trump's ~ 70 million votes as if they are mostly the MAGA morons we see attending those rallies. The MAGA morons are more like 10 million. There are lots of people who just know that Democrats are socialists who want to give your kids sex change operations etc. etc.

It is easy for Republicans to define us when Democrats don't define themselves. The Dem view is that each candidate has to be a free agent because "my district is different". That is bullshit. Every district has plenty of voters who want affordable health care. Every district has plenty of voters who want common sense gun laws. Every district has plenty of voters who want affordable education for their kids. Every district has plenty of voters who want clean air and water (not to mention what we are learning about the impact of microplastics). And so on. Certainly there are districts where one needs to be careful about how they frame the discussion about choice, but we can win that almost everywhere by framing it as keeping Big Government out of EVERYBODY's bedrooms, and making health care a decision made by the patient, their doctor, and their clergy if they so choose -- but not their Governor, state Representative, Mayor, Councilman, or random ICE agent in a mask.

Every district has plenty of voters who want billionaires to pay their fair share. Every district has plenty of voters who are concerned about the corrosive impact of the media, especially social media and the advent of AI and robotics. Every district has plenty of voters who are concerned about the cost of feeding their family and the lack of job security we have when the fascists have all the power.

In my view, all of these things are what should define every Democrat, whether they are in Chicago or Tupelo. The person running in Tupelo probably has to frame things different from what sells in Chicago, but the issues just aren't that much different.

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Well, the festering 800 pound tumor in DC known as the Heritage Foundation... Initech Nov 28 #1
Crystal clear diagnosis! Nt lostnfound Nov 29 #13
We have to commit to big things Bluetus Nov 29 #16
So much THIS! Democracy is always an ongoing process and NEVER a one-and-done election cycle. Beartracks Nov 29 #27
The Pendulum theory Bluetus Nov 29 #30
The Treasoner and Traitor Foundation of Koch-whores Clouds Passing Nov 29 #31
gotta love these repukes just NOW discovering Trump is a sick piece of shit Skittles Nov 29 #2
We've only been telling them 24/7 for the last 15 fucking years. Initech Nov 29 #5
it's the usual Skittles Nov 29 #9
Cracks are certainly starting to show. CrispyQ Nov 29 #3
Just curious how you see this playing out after New Year's Bluetus Nov 29 #20
The economy, mostly. CrispyQ Nov 29 #23
I think you are right. In Trump's brain, "the economy" is the same thing as Bluetus Nov 29 #43
Wait until they declare war on Venezuela. Initech Nov 29 #34
History seems to need infection points Strelnikov_ Nov 29 #39
Depends on where you look. Twitter is a cesspool, Facebook and Threads is not much better. bluesbassman Nov 29 #4
the post could have held up just fine (message intact) stopdiggin Nov 29 #6
The one thing I've witnessed myself in the wild, as opposed to reading anecdotes from others, pnwest Nov 29 #7
"most of them have been moved by the ICE raids, the active hunting and disappearing of brown people" Bluetus Nov 29 #17
I doubt they know about most of what's going on. CrispyQ Nov 29 #25
I know many people exactly as you described. Bluetus Nov 29 #32
Even a majority of rank-and-file REPUBLICANS want millionaires & billionaires to pay more taxes! Jack Valentino Nov 29 #35
Oh, yes, they have totally defined us better than we've defined ourselves. CrispyQ Nov 30 #46
"craft & broadcast our message", there's the problem Bluetus Nov 30 #48
When I read public comments on newspaper articles.... Hope22 Nov 29 #8
Seven Democrats and and an independent caved. creeksneakers2 Nov 29 #10
Call it the "old-line party establishment" if you prefer Bluetus Nov 29 #18
I choose to believe that for which there is evidence. creeksneakers2 Nov 29 #24
The evidence is 50 years of declining power Bluetus Nov 29 #33
We win sometimes too. creeksneakers2 Nov 30 #54
Exactly. We need to provide oversight of our representatives. yellow dahlia Nov 29 #36
They already have that and it's called elections JI7 Nov 29 #40
Actually, a big part of our problem is thinking our part stops at elections. CrispyQ Nov 30 #49
Carrot AND stick Bluetus Nov 30 #52
MAGAts are all over X iemanja Nov 29 #11
They are retreating to X Bluetus Nov 29 #19
See my reply #21 below. nt Justice matters. Nov 29 #22
Note that many of the fake magats post come from abroad. Justice matters. Nov 29 #21
Maybe FB is purging some of those overseas agitators Bluetus Nov 29 #29
Yes, they are loyal to Trump but I can see them maybe being less likely to support other Republicans JI7 Nov 29 #41
Thank you for your post, Bluetus kavotheclown Nov 29 #12
Hear! Hear! yellow dahlia Nov 29 #37
I don't think Schumer is a bad person or corrupt. Bluetus Nov 30 #44
I am. I'm on a topical site very far removed from politics. Until the last month. Pacifist Patriot Nov 29 #14
36% approval rate, per Gallup. flvegan Nov 29 #15
That's Gallup and for a time they were push polls underpants Nov 29 #26
It's palpable Bluetus. I've been saying it for a while. underpants Nov 29 #28
Thank you for your thoughtful analysis. yellow dahlia Nov 29 #38
Lets see how it looks when Cosmocat Nov 29 #42
This, this, this. CrispyQ Nov 30 #50
Frequently drive past a house that proudly displayed a Trump flag Deminpenn Nov 30 #45
Unfortunately, we are absolutely NOT at a turning point. We are not at one until we are. Jbraybarten Nov 30 #47
By the time it is obvious to all, the actual inflection happened much earlier. Bluetus Nov 30 #53
Wishful thinking.... walkingman Nov 30 #51
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