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Straw Man

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69. Agreed.

Thu Sep 11, 2025, 12:40 AM

Sep 2025

Probably aimed at the chest, but a downhill shot would have impacted higher than aimed. Still, given that he killed his target with one shot, I don't know if we can say that he missed. His margin of error was small enough that a small miscalculation in any direction would still have been fatal.

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This message was self-deleted by its author [View all] PeaceWave Sep 2025 OP

Read this SheltieLover Sep 2025 #1

I see the piece of shit just said Kirk was a martyr for truth and freedom Eliot Rosewater Sep 2025 #8

Right! SheltieLover Sep 2025 #10

Is there a bigger shit or a piece of shit alive on earth than that piece of shit TRUMP Eliot Rosewater Sep 2025 #11

Not from my perspective SheltieLover Sep 2025 #12

No, but he barely edges out Vance. strongermessage Sep 2025 #13

You are correct, Vance might even be worse because he's not a moron Eliot Rosewater Sep 2025 #17

He is worse than dump Norbert Sep 2025 #28

Thank you. H2O Man Sep 2025 #53

The geographic location also tilts the probability in that direction. RockRaven Sep 2025 #2

Universities tend blue LeftInTX Sep 2025 #64

Universities exist in communities, counties, and states; and in this case those are red. RockRaven Sep 2025 #65

There are lots of universities in red cities. Look at Texas Tech in Lubbock. Look at South Texas State. LeftInTX Sep 2025 #68

Yeah.. denbot Sep 2025 #81

LOL! LeftInTX Sep 2025 #84

Three edits for a "LOL" denbot Sep 2025 #95

Sound reasoning but have they investigated the grassy knoll? /nt bucolic_frolic Sep 2025 #3

Most surely does. marble falls Sep 2025 #4

And, since more Mormons live in Utah... Ponietz Sep 2025 #5

This person threatened him yesterday Mosby Sep 2025 #6

I can't see the person who shot him JI7 Sep 2025 #22

Yeah. TommyT139 Sep 2025 #27

He deleted the account. Mosby Sep 2025 #45

Wow! yellow dahlia Sep 2025 #29

Wouldn't be shocked that this was the Grown2Hate Sep 2025 #41

That person was a chubby, older, white dude. littlemissmartypants Sep 2025 #56

At this point there have been two "persons of interest" brought in, questioned, and released... JHB Sep 2025 #86

The video of how the cops treated the older man was disgusting. littlemissmartypants Sep 2025 #91

Hmm... "Omar". Now there's a name for ya. ReRe Sep 2025 #67

From everything I have read its not a hard shot with the right rifle. thatdemguy Sep 2025 #7

Saw the video. He was hit directly in the neck. Saoirse9 Sep 2025 #23

Where is the video? hamsterjill Sep 2025 #48

It's been removed LeftInTX Sep 2025 #88

Yeah, I've never found it. hamsterjill Sep 2025 #98

It is something you will wish you could unsee. GemDigger Sep 2025 #107

Here you go Saoirse9 Sep 2025 #117

Or and average hunter Kaleva Sep 2025 #51

I am a military rated marksman Mr.WeRP Sep 2025 #59

Thank you for pointing this out. Too many posters seem Ilsa Sep 2025 #106

If it wasn't a lucky shot, then they also had knowledge of Anatomy. littlemissmartypants Sep 2025 #60

My educated guess is it was a low-miss. sir pball Sep 2025 #63

I find Maru Kitteh's observation interesting in its observed specificity. Especially after watching the video. littlemissmartypants Sep 2025 #79

Yeah, that's consistent with a low shot taking out the soft tissues in his neck sir pball Sep 2025 #100

The films? littlemissmartypants Sep 2025 #101

Yeah, the original Cronenburg one. sir pball Sep 2025 #104

So you think that the aim... littlemissmartypants Sep 2025 #109

Yes, I think it was meant to be as gory as possible sir pball Sep 2025 #110

Got it. 👍 littlemissmartypants Sep 2025 #112

Hardly. Jirel Sep 2025 #87

A fairly accurate 200 yard shot with a large rifle and dialed in scope Disaffected Sep 2025 #9

It's not that hard of a shot. Plenty of DU'ers here could do it, even those without military training NickB79 Sep 2025 #14

Sorry Nick. I couldn't do it. ReRe Sep 2025 #66

Any hay farmer with a scoped rifle could have made that shot. bluedigger Sep 2025 #15

His bio says he's 17. Unlikely he could be very skilled. scipan Sep 2025 #16

This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Sep 2025 #30

Oops - meant to reply to #6, the one about Omar. Nt scipan Sep 2025 #39

Thats not the original Omar. Mosby Sep 2025 #46

Not only the weapon had to be accurate, but the SCOPE on it had to be also. ProudMNDemocrat Sep 2025 #18

I mean, shooter could have been aiming at the head and had a lucky miss for all we know Prairie Gates Sep 2025 #26

I saw the video. No need to wonder about that carotid. Maru Kitteh Sep 2025 #33

5 minutes or less to bleed out from a neck wound. ProudMNDemocrat Sep 2025 #35

Total. The damage was total. He was not concious long enough to panic. Maru Kitteh Sep 2025 #38

I'm a hunter. DenaliDemocrat Sep 2025 #37

His immediate posture was decorticate, not deceribate. That's because Maru Kitteh Sep 2025 #42

Interesting... littlemissmartypants Sep 2025 #77

Many, many years ago, I was a nurse. Peds, NICU. Not trauma unit. We saw deceribate posture with brain damage. LeftInTX Sep 2025 #90

I thought it was his aorta until I froze the frame and saw it hit the neck. Blood was gushing like a fountain LeftInTX Sep 2025 #89

He was shooting for center mass DenaliDemocrat Sep 2025 #36

Agreed. Straw Man Sep 2025 #69

Aim small - Miss small DenaliDemocrat Sep 2025 #93

I don't think he was aiming COM, I think it was a head shot gone low. sir pball Sep 2025 #108

Typically sight in 1.5 inches high at 100 yards DenaliDemocrat Sep 2025 #115

If you understand ballistics and PBR, sure sir pball Sep 2025 #116

We have no evidence that the shooter was aiming for the neck Kaleva Sep 2025 #49

Just an observation, why is he sitting under a tent while hundreds miyazaki Sep 2025 #19

This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Sep 2025 #20

So as not to darken his pasty white complexion? After all it was a big part of his brand...🤷‍♀️ littlemissmartypants Sep 2025 #70

This is barely better than flipping a coin imho. nt BootinUp Sep 2025 #21

This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Sep 2025 #24

I don't think it odd the shooter got away Kaleva Sep 2025 #47

and apparently the "security" for the event consisted of about half a dozen uniformed police officers rollin74 Sep 2025 #71

I agree Kaleva Sep 2025 #97

How much longer are we going to put up with this? Prairie Gates Sep 2025 #25

Good points all misanthrope Sep 2025 #31

Yep. CentralMass Sep 2025 #32

200 yards is nothing. I grew up out west DenaliDemocrat Sep 2025 #34

Most shooters like this have ill defined political Johonny Sep 2025 #40

I'm surprised... littlemissmartypants Sep 2025 #76

Usually it's not a strict ideology either fujiyamasan Sep 2025 #78

I agree. However, often they are often extreme to the point that they don't make sense to the average person. LeftInTX Sep 2025 #83

There is a clip of Kirk & Megan Kelly on Twitter womanofthehills Sep 2025 #43

Interesting. Thanks. ❤️ littlemissmartypants Sep 2025 #72

I think the shot drifted high and outside Kaleva Sep 2025 #44

I lean toward someone with military training of some sort, at least. hamsterjill Sep 2025 #50

This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Sep 2025 #55

I lean Russian. roamer65 Sep 2025 #61

I posted earlier in the day hamsterjill Sep 2025 #62

Irony and hubris. Not unheard-of for a psychopath. ... littlemissmartypants Sep 2025 #73

On behalf of the Wizard of Ooze or as a message to him? littlemissmartypants Sep 2025 #74

It serves multiple purposes. roamer65 Sep 2025 #75

I have to admit, Delphinus Sep 2025 #105

Nah...not a big enough target for Russia. LeftInTX Sep 2025 #114

Sorry Timewas Sep 2025 #52

At game ranches out west they have remote rifles set up so you can hunt deer via computer from your home ImNotGod Sep 2025 #54

Not a difficult shot AverageOldGuy Sep 2025 #57

No it doesn't iemanja Sep 2025 #58

I enjoy the mathematical perspective. ... littlemissmartypants Sep 2025 #80

Orem is only 39 miles from Salt Lake City. There is a chance this person was not even a student on this campus. LeftInTX Sep 2025 #85

My money is on someone with a history of IPV. littlemissmartypants Sep 2025 #92

Young and IPV. Otherwise, why would Charlie Kirk be on their radar? LeftInTX Sep 2025 #94

Easy shot: Here's the ballistic table-this is an easy shot for an experienced competitive shooter DUU Sep 2025 #82

Who needs stinkin facts when they interfere with my hot take? Ponietz Sep 2025 #99

Just to be pedantic, a competitive shooter would do a lot better than a golf ball sir pball Sep 2025 #103

"it beats what Oswald did from the Texas School Book Depository at 88 meters from his target" Polybius Sep 2025 #96

Maybe there's a list..... Turbineguy Sep 2025 #102

Your speculation is off base. Are you saying that only Republicans know how to shoot a rifle? totodeinhere Sep 2025 #111

I personally don't believe it had anything to do with politics. CanonRay Sep 2025 #113