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107. The recent refusal of House Republicans to give in to the

Sat Dec 21, 2024, 11:51 AM

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Musk/Trump demands to remove the debt ceiling shows a Musk weakness. The large number of Republicans who voted against the Musk/Trump version and their outspokeness in opposing it suggests that Musk does not yet have their support. I suspect some resentment over a "foreigner" telling them what to do.

We could use that by continuing to hammer Musk with labels of unelected, not a natural born citizen, and not eligible to be president - or to play at being president.

We could use the MAGA xenophobia about foreigners to undercut Musk with them and with MAGA followers.

Keep trolling Trump and Musk with the
President Musk label and we can hit two fascist narcissists with one stone.

Add more labels and shade between now and January 20 to undercut Musk before the new regime takes over. The labels should be the kind that undermine Musk with MAGAs so that they refuse to follow him.

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Everyone has an Achilles heel. What is Musk's? [View all] Irish_Dem 18 hrs ago OP

Greed kills its host. NameAlreadyTaken 18 hrs ago #1

Musk is addicted to drugs, money, and power. Irish_Dem 18 hrs ago #2

I think his biggest addiction is himself. dchill 16 hrs ago #29

Yes this is his obvious narcissistic personality disorder. Irish_Dem 16 hrs ago #33

Overreach might be his downfall. yardwork 15 hrs ago #78

Yes good point. His grandiose ambition exceeds his talents and abilities. Irish_Dem 15 hrs ago #81

There used to be a group of docs who analyzed the deaths of historical figures. yardwork 15 hrs ago #87

(lack of) self-awareness C_U_L8R 18 hrs ago #3

Yes he also appears to be mentally ill. Irish_Dem 17 hrs ago #5

musk is ketamine. rampartd 17 hrs ago #19

Yes, Trump's crime syndicate is full of drug addicts/substance abusers. Irish_Dem 17 hrs ago #21

i didn't even think of the "date rape" stuff rampartd 16 hrs ago #23

Yes I noticed all the date rape drugs right away on the WH drug list. Irish_Dem 16 hrs ago #30

Trump knows drug addicts are easy to control jmowreader 6 hrs ago #146

Guess Trump is going to need a huge White House drug list again. Irish_Dem 6 hrs ago #147

And yet they claim to protect the country from drugs coming in over the border wnylib 15 hrs ago #64

Every accusation is a confession. yardwork 15 hrs ago #89

The psychology of that is interesting. wnylib 14 hrs ago #97

Similar mentality goes into their homophobia and why at this point we kinda assume the loudest ones AZJonnie 13 hrs ago #110

I think that is especially evident in JD Vance's wnylib 13 hrs ago #114

I'm not sure what's up with Vance but he's definitely miserable. yardwork 12 hrs ago #119

He probably can't stop comparing himself spapeggy 12 hrs ago #122

I didn't know that Vance was raised Catholic. wnylib 11 hrs ago #125

Could be. I'm glad that your friend Joe found happiness and his authentic self. yardwork 11 hrs ago #126

Yes, I was happy for Joe when I ran into him. wnylib 11 hrs ago #128

I have read he's on the spectrum, so to speak. Texin 16 hrs ago #63

no doubt rampartd 15 hrs ago #68

I agree, rampartd, that we are all "on the spectrum" somewhere. Bumbles 15 hrs ago #70

A touch of the 'tism, yes. Also paranoid, drug addict, narcissistic sociopath. Irish_Dem 15 hrs ago #74

Not good qualities for a President to have. COL Mustard 15 hrs ago #73

Yes, they are bad and dangerous leaders. Irish_Dem 9 hrs ago #141

The truth. 2naSalit 18 hrs ago #4

Yes Musk is out of touch with reality. Irish_Dem 17 hrs ago #6

His trans daughter seems to strike a nerve. Vinca 17 hrs ago #7

Good point. His hatred of her is pathological. Irish_Dem 17 hrs ago #9

Musk ha 12 children (so far). I don't think one trans child is going to drive him crazy. Martin68 16 hrs ago #50

Drugs GusBob 17 hrs ago #8

Dupes OK. Means more people think Musk being a drug addict is his major weakness. Irish_Dem 17 hrs ago #10

Ok how bout this one? GusBob 17 hrs ago #11

Very interesting. All the women he has hurt may start blabbing. Irish_Dem 17 hrs ago #12

What's that saying about a woman scorned? GusBob 17 hrs ago #13

Good point. He may push them too far. Irish_Dem 17 hrs ago #15

But how can that weakness be used to bring him down? wnylib 15 hrs ago #67

First you do the psych profile. Irish_Dem 15 hrs ago #75

I don't know enough about Musk to identify his weaknesses. wnylib 15 hrs ago #93

People on this thread are identifying his weaknesses. Irish_Dem 14 hrs ago #100

The recent refusal of House Republicans to give in to the wnylib 13 hrs ago #107

Good point. Musk is running into some political brick walls. Irish_Dem 12 hrs ago #116

Either there is a power vacuum that Musk is trying to push himself into wnylib 12 hrs ago #120

Both. Power brokers pushing Musk into a power vacuum. Irish_Dem 12 hrs ago #121

Here's what can bring him down: Eyeball_Kid 13 hrs ago #113

Those things could take him down, but wnylib 13 hrs ago #115

I agree, his ego is tied into everything you list. Irish_Dem 9 hrs ago #142

Mars is just a grift. harumph 4 hrs ago #149

Maybe his need to control combined with his insecurity about his parenting Mike 03 17 hrs ago #14

Yes. Musk's mental illness is on display with his parenting issues. Irish_Dem 17 hrs ago #17

What you describe is a younger version of Mr. Trump. wnylib 15 hrs ago #71

His stock superpatriotman 17 hrs ago #16

Yes, Musk's enormous ego is tied to his net worth. Irish_Dem 17 hrs ago #18

yep dtTwitch 17 hrs ago #22

How do we take down his stock? Irish_Dem 16 hrs ago #24

Collectively crash the stock market, a la 2007 to 2009. Celerity 16 hrs ago #40

He has a lot more than TSLA. Lucky Luciano 16 hrs ago #46

Most of Musk's wealth comes from government contracts. yardwork 15 hrs ago #94

Bingo! jmbar2 14 hrs ago #103

His ignorance of American history is a big flaw. That should should be exploited. Walleye 17 hrs ago #20

Yes good point. Irish_Dem 16 hrs ago #25

Many Americans claiming to be patriots do not understand the basic principles of our philosophy Walleye 16 hrs ago #27

Or they don't care. Or they no longer want a democracy. Irish_Dem 16 hrs ago #34

I keep thinking of the schemes of Pinky and the Brain Walleye 16 hrs ago #37

If this was a movie it would be fascinating. Irish_Dem 16 hrs ago #47

THIS is what we're up against. yardwork 15 hrs ago #95

...and more than a few of them are in Congress. dchill 16 hrs ago #35

we dont talk enough about hard drugs in high places. mopinko 16 hrs ago #26

I think many of the narcissistic world leaders think they have just the right drugs to make them superior to everyone Walleye 16 hrs ago #28

true. mopinko 16 hrs ago #31

Which explains their hatred for straight arrow, Boy Scout, Joe Biden Walleye 16 hrs ago #32

Very good point mopinko. Irish_Dem 16 hrs ago #42

When was that recent hearing where the Republicans turned up drunk? yardwork 14 hrs ago #96

Gaetz, Boebert, MTG? Irish_Dem 14 hrs ago #98

Found it. It was last May. They were drinking in the hearing room itself. yardwork 14 hrs ago #99

Thanks. What happens when regular people show to work drunk and are disruptive? Irish_Dem 14 hrs ago #102

Well, I would be fired. yardwork 12 hrs ago #117

Hitler was as high as kite through WWII. Ocelot II 16 hrs ago #51

yup. mopinko 16 hrs ago #53

Yes in Hitler's speeches he sounds psychotic and/or drugged to the hilt. Irish_Dem 15 hrs ago #77

Blitzed Pachamama 15 hrs ago #84

Being stupid enough to make common cause with trump. Paladin 16 hrs ago #36

Billionaires think their vast wealth protects them from everything. Irish_Dem 16 hrs ago #44

It's starting to look like Trump might be the one who needs protection from the muskrat. wnylib 15 hrs ago #80

Ego-driven greed. Believe he wants to eventually rule the planet. allegorical oracle 16 hrs ago #38

Yes Musk is now talking about buying the UK elections too. Irish_Dem 16 hrs ago #52

Taking on too many things at the same time. The Madcap 16 hrs ago #39

I believe he is bipolar with manic episodes. Irish_Dem 15 hrs ago #76

I could never The Madcap 15 hrs ago #86

He likes to fly everywhere. 58Sunliner 16 hrs ago #41

Believing he can trust Trump? boonecreek 16 hrs ago #43

This message was self-deleted by its author dalton99a 16 hrs ago #45

Sewth Efrica DFW 16 hrs ago #48

Musk's (non)relationship with his trans daughter seems to be a sore point for him. sop 16 hrs ago #49

Yes, Musk's view of his child is pathological, quite crazy and paranoid. Irish_Dem 16 hrs ago #55

Putin would Traildogbob 16 hrs ago #54

The Icarus Factor no_hypocrisy 16 hrs ago #56

Narcissism Wicked Blue 16 hrs ago #57

Something we don't know about but Putin might nuxvomica 16 hrs ago #58

Zero Imagination Kid Berwyn 16 hrs ago #59

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he has an inflated view of himself azureblue 16 hrs ago #61

It is his vanity nowforever 16 hrs ago #62

His biggest Achilles heel will ultimately stealing the anointed one's sunshine Norbert 15 hrs ago #65

All the detritus he's discarded on his way to the top bucolic_frolic 15 hrs ago #66

As you said Irish Dem, Musk's enormous ego is tied to his net worth. Bumbles 15 hrs ago #69

His praetorian guard DBoon 15 hrs ago #72

Hubris endless summer 15 hrs ago #79

The same ones as Trump's. They are very much alike Ocelot II 15 hrs ago #82

Yes they have the same psychopathology. Irish_Dem 9 hrs ago #140

Musk is not as smart as people, including himself, think. MineralMan 15 hrs ago #83

+1. Musk fired his long-time assistant because she dared to ask for a raise dalton99a 15 hrs ago #92

Mainly that he is a really unlikable prick. Happy Hoosier 15 hrs ago #85

Good point. He is an obnoxious SOB. Irish_Dem 13 hrs ago #105

Achilles Heel: His government contracts predicated on his lie on his citizenship application. ancianita 15 hrs ago #88

Yes on all your points. But rich, powerful white males are exempt from US laws, rules and customs. Irish_Dem 13 hrs ago #111

Okay, then. If what you say is true, then there's no reason to even ask whether he has an "Achilles heel," is there. ancianita 12 hrs ago #123

You are right and wrong about my thought process. Irish_Dem 9 hrs ago #135

Fine. Then both things can be true. ancianita 4 hrs ago #148

Looks like the U.S. Military agrees with me about his being a national security threat. ancianita 11 hrs ago #130

Just CYA, they still give Musk military contacts. Irish_Dem 10 hrs ago #133

Nah. They bother with this because they have evidentiary cause for prosecuting and taking over his contracts ancianita 10 hrs ago #134

ha ha Irish_Dem 9 hrs ago #136

Everything ancianita 4 hrs ago #150

Musk will eventually self-destruct Pachamama 15 hrs ago #90

Definately his ego - very thin skin on that one alittlelark 14 hrs ago #104

Good analysis. Irish_Dem 13 hrs ago #109

his ego RainCaster 15 hrs ago #91

Yes this makes him quite vulnerable. Irish_Dem 13 hrs ago #108

He's a quick study but doesn't have time to know important details flamingdem 14 hrs ago #101

He is also so grandiose he doesn't think he needs the details. Irish_Dem 13 hrs ago #106

He's a pedo Arthur_Frain 13 hrs ago #112

Musk got the anti-porn prohibition killed in the new bill. Irish_Dem 12 hrs ago #118

His fragile ego. He cannot handle anyone being less than obeisance. (n/t) OldBaldy1701E 12 hrs ago #124

Yes, like Trump. Classic narcissistic personality disorder. Irish_Dem 10 hrs ago #132

How was Musk's parents view of him and his view of his parents. How was he raised? debm55 8 hrs ago #144

We know his mother seems to be narcissistic as well. Irish_Dem 7 hrs ago #145

Possibly the Orange Anuses malignant narcissism? CentralMass 11 hrs ago #127

Yes Musk is too stupid to realize that Trump poses a threat to him. Irish_Dem 9 hrs ago #137

Dependence on Chinese suppliers? n/t AntiFascist 11 hrs ago #129

Yes Musk does not realize that China, Russia, and Trump could turn on him at any moment. Irish_Dem 9 hrs ago #138

He drew to an inside straight and got it, now he thinks he's a genius localroger 10 hrs ago #131

Good assessment. Musk knows the price of everything, but the value of nothing. Irish_Dem 9 hrs ago #139

Drugs Emrys 9 hrs ago #143

If he keeps screwing up, he may make some powerful enemies. Irish_Dem 4 hrs ago #152

His ego is not his amigo. Bluethroughu 4 hrs ago #151

Yes hubris may be his downfall. Irish_Dem 4 hrs ago #153

Definately hope so. Bluethroughu 3 hrs ago #155

Ketamine to get over that his Mommy didn't love him enough! kimbutgar 3 hrs ago #154

He is used to his staff, politicians, and the rich fawning over him. Irish_Dem 3 hrs ago #157

Dunning Kruger Effect, he know doubt thinks he knows best based off a little bit of information. Took out LIDAR from ... uponit7771 3 hrs ago #156

He is impaired because of his narcissistic personalty disorder. Irish_Dem 3 hrs ago #159

Jumping up with his arms in the air when his shirt is too short? dgauss 3 hrs ago #158