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NJCher

(37,864 posts)
52. so are there studies out
Wed Nov 20, 2024, 09:27 PM
9 hrs ago

that interviewed voters in 7 states and that quantitatively showed they voted for hate? These would have to be studies done since the election. I'd like to read them, so if you don't mind, please provide a link.

Because if you don't have quantitative studies, then putting out an opinion like this "is every BIT as destructive and nonsensical as it is on the right." It makes Democrats look like they're projecting, which is something that we often see on the right. Do you understand why you need a study to attribute motivation?

Also, I don't think most of these posters are claiming "stolen election." All they are asking for is an inquiry--a recount. They haven't drawn conclusions yet. They are merely asking for a recount, which is only common sense when you are dealing with a known criminal like Donald Trump. In fact, you'd be a damn fool to do any transaction with him and expect a straight-up deal.

OTOH, you have a good point about "legally manipulated" not being the same as "stolen," although as I have pointed out, I have not yet seen anyone saying stolen. I do see substantial numbers of people asking for a recount. There's nothing wrong with that.

Legal manipulation, gerrymandering, and voter intimidation are practices they have engaged in that have no doubt had an effect.

It's out of my hands JustAnotherGen 20 hrs ago #1
That's it right there. This was in the hands of voters in 7 states and not one Maru Kitteh 20 hrs ago #6
Because in all likelyhood more than one if not all of the 7 swing states had stolen elections. I live in Wisconsin..... usaf-vet 18 hrs ago #19
The reason they are all close is because some very smart PROGRAMMER wrote the software to do just that...... usaf-vet 17 hrs ago #24
Surprised there's no parachute to slow down the rocket, save fuel. BadgerKid 16 hrs ago #36
Just saving the booster is a big mission savings. usaf-vet 15 hrs ago #44
They weren't close iemanja 6 hrs ago #57
A big part of that manipulation was a right-wing "think" tank, the Bradley Foundation... keep_left 17 hrs ago #26
You are right the Wisconsin based Bradley Foundation is part of this remake of Wisconsin and now onto the USA. usaf-vet 17 hrs ago #29
Citizens United LiberalFighter 13 hrs ago #48
Legally manipulated is not the same thing as stolen. Maru Kitteh 17 hrs ago #31
I agree. Unless shown otherwise. Callie1979 16 hrs ago #37
so are there studies out NJCher 9 hrs ago #52
Dems are no slackers when it comes to gerrymandering NJCher 8 hrs ago #54
You think that's bad- look at Florida. We have a dictator as a Governor. kerry-is-my-prez 15 hrs ago #40
My consolation will be DENVERPOPS 17 hrs ago #25
Lower 99.9% Bettie 15 hrs ago #41
Agreed, DENVERPOPS 15 hrs ago #43
I heard one of these confused people say "I'll be rich someday and I won't want to pay all these taxes." CTyankee 15 hrs ago #45
And they don't get it Bettie 13 hrs ago #49
Your senators get a vote. Qutzupalotl 20 hrs ago #8
Mine don't need to be called...mercifully I have two liberal Dem Senators! CTyankee 19 hrs ago #10
Rubio and Scott will be glad to hear my concerns. rubbersole 18 hrs ago #12
My Senator is Tom Cotton calguy 18 hrs ago #17
Call anyway. Qutzupalotl 17 hrs ago #34
YES YES YES YES YES !!!!! Call ANYWAY !!!!! calimary 10 hrs ago #51
My ONLY contact with my Senator is when they ask for money. usaf-vet 17 hrs ago #30
That is unfortunate. murielm99 16 hrs ago #35
My senators don't care Bettie 15 hrs ago #42
Asset of a Foreign Adversary Renaissance Man 20 hrs ago #2
Trump's choice is not perplexing in the least. Irish_Dem 20 hrs ago #3
Prsident elect Trash didn't pick this cabinet, putinshit did. arthritisR_US 6 hrs ago #58
So I guess Michael Flynn wasn't a big enough traitor Walleye 20 hrs ago #4
+1 dalton99a 20 hrs ago #5
You do wonder what he's saving Flynn for. I'm sure we will see him. Maru Kitteh 18 hrs ago #15
Something that involves the military, no doubt. nt allegorical oracle 18 hrs ago #16
flynn commands the christian militias - proud boys and such rampartd 17 hrs ago #32
The Cult wanted him for SecDef! Callie1979 16 hrs ago #38
He will be waiting in the wings to take over once she fails (and she will) Nictuku 17 hrs ago #27
That's the point. Aaeia 20 hrs ago #7
It's almost like nobody realizes ScratchCat 19 hrs ago #9
Trump's pick is not at all surprising. Trust_Reality 19 hrs ago #11
Of course there are... rubbersole 18 hrs ago #13
It's not perplexing. Stop trying to be politically correct. progressoid 18 hrs ago #14
Yeah, my first introduction to HER was in 2015 LisaM 18 hrs ago #18
gabbard was raised as a "hare krishna." rampartd 17 hrs ago #33
I was hoping for some anecdotal muckraking, but this stuff could, and should, be cut and pasted for all Trumps nominees. jaxexpat 18 hrs ago #20
O M G!!!! elleng 18 hrs ago #21
Is it possible that Russian Intelligence asked for her to have that position? patphil 17 hrs ago #22
Or Pooty himself asked. moondust 17 hrs ago #23
Post removed Post removed 17 hrs ago #28
From the OP Title, I thought AZ was recalling serving in the military with her... Montauk6 15 hrs ago #39
It's not a perplexing choice. Dementold is choosing hyper-loyal people he knows that he's real comfy with Bernardo de La Paz 14 hrs ago #46
As Hilary said about her, Gabbard is a Putinista Hassler 13 hrs ago #47
"Yikes" is right, and perhaps under-stated.. Evolve Dammit 12 hrs ago #50
Pendejo45 doesn't want to RUN the government, he wants to RUIN the government. ... aggiesal 9 hrs ago #53
this seems barbtries 8 hrs ago #55
So Scary... Gabbard is one of Putin's Cha 7 hrs ago #56
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