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87. What it proves is that he did not know she was underage

Wed Nov 20, 2024, 08:42 PM

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when he had sex with her the first time(s).I would be pretty hard to establish grooming when (1) he did not know she was underage and (2) she was already a sex worker.

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***Breaking*** The NYT has documents of Gaetz's thousands of dollars of payments to sex workers [View all] DemocratSinceBirth Nov 20 OP

Have they released them to the public? SheltieLover Nov 20 #1

Read my OP: Dennis Donovan Nov 20 #2

As long as they are of legal age polly pureblood Nov 20 #3

You need to troll better. 617Blue Nov 20 #4

right? Skittles Nov 20 #8

Post removed Post removed Nov 20 #11

The point , i think , is that a conservative family values god-fearin christian luvin republican Fullduplexxx Nov 20 #14

Is soliciting a prostitute still illegal in the US? meadowlander Nov 20 #36

Virtually everyone has smoked weed. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 20 #60

And looking to be Attorney General skypilot Nov 20 #81

Aww, bless your heart. nt RandiFan1290 Nov 20 #15

I think mercuryblues Nov 20 #18

Then Mr. Gaetz should petition the states to change their laws or go to The Netherlands DemocratSinceBirth Nov 20 #20

Spam deleted by MIR Team polly pureblood Nov 20 #25

I don't make the laws. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 20 #27

I think the laws are lagging behind progress. polly pureblood Nov 20 #31

He was the Attorney General. Enforcing the laws is part of the job description. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 20 #33

The problem is overstepping polly pureblood Nov 20 #38

Sex work was illegal in the states where Mr. Gaetz was contracting it. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 20 #43

"states' rights" Dave Bowman Nov 20 #44

Matt Gaetz also voted against the Repect For Marriage Act DemocratSinceBirth Nov 20 #51

For one thing it's the LAW, broken by a potential Attorney General of the USA /nt bucolic_frolic Nov 20 #22

you are accusing DEMS of "puritanical bullshit" Skittles Nov 20 #30

No bridge is too far for them Prairie Gates Nov 20 #34

Perhaps you are on the wrong forum? We live in the US and are talking about US politicians. Irish_Dem Nov 20 #52

Sure you're not!🤣🤣🤣 canuckledragger Nov 20 #64

Yes, actually you are. paleotn Nov 20 #71

One of them was 17. That's called statutory rape. Autumn Nov 20 #5

I looked up that situation. polly pureblood Nov 20 #21

Which part of she was 17 do you not understand Polly? Autumn Nov 20 #26

You cannot condemn someone polly pureblood Nov 20 #41

I'm going to miss you!!! RandiFan1290 Nov 20 #49

Yep, Polly is pining for the fjords. Dave Bowman Nov 20 #53

That one JustAnotherGen Nov 20 #78

You are kidding kacekwl Nov 20 #57

Any man with a pea size brain that is not stuck in his dick knows sex with a woman under the age of 18 is Autumn Nov 20 #58

BWAAAHAHAAHAA! Yes, actually, you can. paleotn Nov 20 #72

That's the entire point of statutory rape laws. Ms. Toad Nov 20 #96

Eh? Straw Man Nov 21 #103

I'm sure you'd defend a Democrat doing the same crap Skittles Nov 20 #32

She was just seventeen, if you know what I mean. Dave Bowman Nov 20 #35

Seriously!!! You want a 'possible' sex addict to run the DOJ? cliffside Nov 20 #82

It would be in Florida, which DOES have an 'age of consent' of 18. However, the vast majority of states Jack Valentino Nov 21 #105

Points DemocratSinceBirth Nov 20 #6

do you not get it? Skittles Nov 20 #7

Damn Polly, you're just mixing up with everybody. Biophilic Nov 20 #9

. BeerBarrelPolka Nov 20 #12

Thanks for the laugh. Biophilic Nov 20 #24

Lol! Dave Bowman Nov 20 #39

Anti-vaxers and white nationalists blm Nov 20 #13

Then probably a perfect name for him or her. They've just been so busy today. Biophilic Nov 20 #19

There was a polly here some time ago boston bean Nov 20 #16

I smell Pizza. N/T gay texan Nov 20 #29

Polly wants a pizza? PCIntern Nov 20 #37

Polly has left the building dpibel Nov 20 #59

That poster lasted longer than I thought they would, having spotted them niyad Nov 20 #73

It's not a big deal, except for the underage girl mainer Nov 20 #10

Oh goddamn it: We have a major problem with human trafficking for sex in this country Prairie Gates Nov 20 #47

I said CONSENSUAL sex mainer Nov 20 #74

The allegation is that Gaetz was paying to have these women transported to him. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 20 #80

Thank-you. JohnSJ Nov 20 #83

A 30-40 something guy is paying for 19 year olds to be transported to sex parties Prairie Gates Nov 20 #91

This has been litigated in the press. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 20 #93

And in certain counties in Nevada. Klarkashton Nov 20 #55

what a great name proud patriot Nov 20 #56

Dude....sex work IS a low-wage hamster wheel. paleotn Nov 20 #70

Paging Eliot Spitzer ........... /nt bucolic_frolic Nov 20 #17

He did not pay 17 YO directly jojog Nov 20 #23

So he paid a trafficker for her. Sound like Gaetz and the trafficker should be in jail Autumn Nov 20 #28

When he found out she was 17 he didnt have sex with her again until she was 18. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 20 #40

Bless his little heart he waited till she was 18 to have sex with her. For the second time. Autumn Nov 20 #45

After he GROOMED her. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 20 #50

It's disgusting that we have a committee in the peoples house that hides elected officials crimes. Autumn Nov 20 #61

What are we going to do, Autumn? DemocratSinceBirth Nov 20 #68

I know I wouldn't. Don't think you or anyone else here would either. Well, with the exception here and there Autumn Nov 20 #69

What it proves is that he did not know she was underage speak easy Nov 20 #87

Not knowing the age of the victim isn't a defense to statutory rape. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 20 #88

Not knowing is a defense to Sex Trafficking. speak easy Nov 20 #89

He violated Florida law when he had sex with a child. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 20 #90

18 U.S.C. § 1591 speak easy Nov 20 #92

The allegations DemocratSinceBirth Nov 20 #94

"The allegations are that Gaetz had sex with a minor which is a violation of a Florida statute " speak easy Nov 20 #95

It's a violation of the federal statute I cited. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 20 #98

Not so speak easy Nov 20 #102

This message was self-deleted by its author DemocratSinceBirth Nov 21 #106

How many guys in prison didn't know she was underage either? hadEnuf Nov 20 #97

It seems this stuff has swirled around for a couple of years HereForTheParty Nov 20 #85

No. It makes him a rapist. Ms. Toad Nov 20 #99

Being a rapist and a groomer aren't mutulally exclusive DemocratSinceBirth Nov 20 #101

That's quite a defense for the nominee for the highest law enforcement officer in the country Prairie Gates Nov 20 #42

They had sex on a hockey table. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 20 #48

I understand the next VP has sex WITH couches. Autumn Nov 20 #67

No. He didn't. Ms. Toad Nov 20 #100

Well I like it because he's skeevy enough to do it. So I'm sticking to it. Autumn Nov 21 #107

Truth matters. n/t Ms. Toad Nov 21 #108

Having a sense of humor matters in times like these. n/t Autumn Nov 21 #109

I agree, but it is not humorous to spread fake news - Ms. Toad Nov 21 #110

Fake news LOL No one fucking believes it. If you are in the wrong quarter so sorry Autumn Nov 22 #112

LOL, that just means more criminal charges! W_HAMILTON Nov 22 #111

So? Yavin4 Nov 20 #46

Not with that attitude Prairie Gates Nov 20 #54

Boys will be Johns? (nt) Pinback Nov 20 #63

Sadly, you are right dhol82 Nov 20 #65

Gaetz - payment made keithbvadu2 Nov 20 #62

I heard he only did it as part of an investigation he was doing. Ligyron Nov 20 #66

Someone's leaking. I wonder why. paleotn Nov 20 #75

CNN just showed a diagram of how he got others to pay the women. applegrove Nov 20 #76

Only thousands? Trump paid over 100,000 $s to Stormy Daniels along with paying his lawyer, ... Botany Nov 20 #77

He isn't a Democrat, like Eliot Spitzer was, so it's ok. (sarcasm). Seriously though, it is time JohnSJ Nov 20 #79

NYT share link ...Federal Inquiry Traced Payments From Gaetz to Women cliffside Nov 20 #84

So . . . AverageOldGuy Nov 20 #86

If you are a straight white xtian right winger it's just fine JI7 Nov 21 #104