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cab67

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49. They did.

Wed Nov 20, 2024, 10:55 AM

23 hrs ago

Really.

The problem is that news outlets too often want to give air time to all "sides." This works if there are multiple legitimate sides, but not if there's one side based on actual data and another that's spewing bullshit.

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John Pavlovitz: No, the Democratic Party Can't "Message Better" to Racism, Misogyny, and Ignorance [View all] Dennis Donovan Tuesday OP

100% correct article. Irish_Dem Tuesday #1

I agree. The last quoted paragraph sums it up. Nt spooky3 Tuesday #2

The most perfect summation of the election possible. Irish_Dem Tuesday #4

K&R Docreed2003 Tuesday #3

Sorry, but it is indeed the lack of Dem Party messaging... SnoopDog Tuesday #5

This SomedayKindaLove Tuesday #9

NO, that's just not true... Moostache Tuesday #12

"People think the economy sucks because its all they HEAR and SEE and are TOLD." SnoopDog Tuesday #13

Propaganda is not messaging. Moostache Tuesday #18

The billionaire-owned Media will not message for the Dems... SnoopDog Tuesday #20

The dem party does not own or chair any happy feet Tuesday #31

Exactly.... SnoopDog Tuesday #32

The media voters consume is alternative media: social media, podcasts, and radio iemanja 17 hrs ago #72

Propaganda is literally messaging JoseBalow Tuesday #29

"Propaganda is not messaging." Prescisely. Cha Yesterday #42

Propaganda is a TYPE of messaging where influencing harumph Yesterday #48

Propaganda is Bullshit.. "Haitians eating cats & dogs" Cha 20 hrs ago #59

How is it not? iemanja 17 hrs ago #70

"The Democratic Party does not have a message media infrastructure." soldierant Tuesday #33

They did. cab67 23 hrs ago #49

That's the best reply I have heard in a long long time. Bravo!! Here Here! ReRe Tuesday #21

Excellent Post, Moostache... Mahalo for Cha Yesterday #41

The media--largely alternative media--controls messaging iemanja 17 hrs ago #73

The problem as I see it is a whore media that normalized all of the weird and dangerous things * has said. OMGWTF Tuesday #23

That's why the Dem Party need media messaging outlets. SnoopDog Tuesday #25

The Democratic message was excellent. Harris & Walz hit the nail on the head every time. hadEnuf Tuesday #28

Exactly, I have no idea when this is not obvious to everyone. Tumbulu 18 hrs ago #62

Wrong! We lost because of the racist sexist crap in this country that says a woman esp. a WOC shouldn't be president. PortTack Yesterday #45

What do you suggest? Should we purchase thousands of small radio stations? Magoo48 22 hrs ago #52

Yes, we need radio stations in every state... SnoopDog 22 hrs ago #53

I agree, Joe's accomplishes were not messaged to the people during his 4 years..... Butterflylady 18 hrs ago #63

In Pennsylvania, the Harris campaign TV ads were "take it easy on Trump" Number9Dream 18 hrs ago #64

It takes years and years to properly message the people... SnoopDog 18 hrs ago #65

I agree, but they didn't even try. I'm sure there were some undecided independents in PA. Number9Dream 18 hrs ago #66

Disagree mcar 17 hrs ago #68

Totally agree... SnoopDog 17 hrs ago #74

Republican billionaires bought them mcar 17 hrs ago #75

But for Some it's ALWAYS Blame the Dems Cha Tuesday #6

If you're trying to win the electoral college... Lucky Luciano Tuesday #17

They are NOT "echo chambares" Just Because Cha Tuesday #35

Meh...you're right, let's just keep the same approach which has worked so well. Lucky Luciano 23 hrs ago #51

Meh. Cha 20 hrs ago #58

The control of the Supreme Court was on the ballot in 2016 LetMyPeopleVote Tuesday #38

Mahalo, LMPV.. You Get IT * & Jill Fucking Stein LIED Cha Yesterday #40

Joe Biden apparently wouldn't consider expanding the Extreme Court to 13 justices. JustABozoOnThisBus Yesterday #47

Sure was. And we were told by some on the far left mcar 17 hrs ago #71

+++ JohnSJ Yesterday #43

This is truth! Dem4life1970 Tuesday #7

Biden was the most pro white working class president radius777 Tuesday #8

She did everything right. She talk middle/working class. The only thing is man on ticket LizBeth Tuesday #10

Reasons? Personally, I think the pandemic gave people an excuse that Trump would have been really great, but for that RoeVWade Tuesday #11

When "The immigrants are eating the cats and dogs."..is a more potent campaign point than... albacore Tuesday #14

Or people believe the "Deep State" which I call sensible people in government trying to derail a sociopath, prevented RoeVWade Tuesday #15

Case in point: madamesilverspurs Tuesday #16

1,000% CORRECT Cosmocat Tuesday #19

I'd love to say that, from an Independent, the essay was a) fact based high compliment to Harris, Walz and Democrats, ancianita Tuesday #22

Electoral success Cirsium Tuesday #24

Umm . . . Seriously? cer7711 Tuesday #26

I've seen two numbers JustAnotherGen Tuesday #34

Thank God dlk Tuesday #27

Yup half the people suck Joinfortmill Tuesday #30

Sorry, have to push back on this. biocube Tuesday #36

My take on Henry203 Yesterday #44

Democratic messaging is fine, people just aren't HEARING it....... Takket Tuesday #37

THANK YOU, John Pavlovitz -- and Dennis Donovan. This is 100% accurate, imho. nt Hekate Yesterday #39

K&R...nt Wounded Bear Yesterday #46

John Pavlovitz is spot on! n/t iluvtennis 23 hrs ago #50

Thank you Blue_Tires 22 hrs ago #54

The vast, right-wing, oligarch propaganda system strikes again. Concentration of wealth and media is the root. Hermit-The-Prog 22 hrs ago #55

I agree 100%. Martin68 21 hrs ago #56

I enjoy idiosyncratic messaging critiques. praxEs 20 hrs ago #57

It is the stupidity and political narcissism that we struggle more with. TheKentuckian 19 hrs ago #60

Perfectly stated. mdbl 19 hrs ago #61

Exactly mcar 17 hrs ago #67

If you think it's all racism and misogyny iemanja 17 hrs ago #69

What part of "voting for a Republican is to vote against your own interest" Justice matters. 16 hrs ago #76

They believe that because they are swayed by RW messaging iemanja 16 hrs ago #77

Absolutely. Well stated. What a majority of the nation has become. brush 16 hrs ago #78

For the Harris Walz campaign I would had made minor changes LiberalFighter 14 hrs ago #79