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69. "where the person is under 18 or where force, fraud or coercion exists"

Tue Nov 19, 2024, 06:28 PM

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Act 18 U.S.C. § 1591, or the Commercial Sex Act, the US makes it illegal to recruit, entice, obtain, provide, move or harbor a person or to benefit from such activities knowing that the person will be caused to engage in commercial sex acts where the person is under 18 or where force, fraud or coercion exists

The person who could establish that Gaetz knew she was trafficked was Joel Greenberg a criminal who ran a prostitution service. The DOJ apparently considered him to be an unreliable witness. The case is not clear cut.

Joel Greenberg, former tax collector for Seminole County, was accused of stalking a political opponent, public corruption, making fake licenses and scheming to submit false claims for a federal loan.

He pleaded guilty to six federal crimes, including identity theft, stalking, wire fraud and conspiracy to bribe a public official. Prosecutors said he paid at least one girl to have sex with him and other men.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/joel-greenberg-sentenced-sex-crimes-freind-matt-gaetz/

Even if Gaetz could be pinned down on paying the Girl for sex (not a Federal offence, his defense would be that he had no reason to believe the girl was a minor or coerced.

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No qazplm135 Monday #1

IMO he's a republican mole, Joe Biden's worst pick. The reason why trump was never... brush Monday #29

His NYS case H2O Man Tuesday #38

True, but for some reason the judge keeps postponing the sentencing. brush Tuesday #42

Definitely. H2O Man Tuesday #43

At this point, even if the judge gives Trump jail time (which is doubtful), the Supreme Court... LudwigPastorius Tuesday #44

brush, I agree with you, but I want to play devil's advocate here UniqueUserName Tuesday #51

Very few still believe the "conservative and tentative" Garland excuse any more. Irish_Dem Tuesday #52

Horrible choice in any time period. paleotn Tuesday #67

Is it a rerun? milestogo Monday #2

Yes, IOKIYAR rerun gab13by13 Monday #3

This message was self-deleted by its author radical noodle Monday #4

Agree Gab13by13. MG is complicit. Clouds Passing Monday #5

Justice delayed. See how that works? dchill Monday #6

Garland Failed Baron2024 Monday #7

He can be non-partisan when Trump prosecutes him and throws him in jail. hadEnuf Monday #10

Most of those BigMin28 Monday #12

I don't have any inside info but I have to say that dsc Monday #8

Better to try BigMin28 Monday #13

Under age is under age. Bluethroughu Monday #22

Felony sex with a minor is not a federal case. speak easy Monday #25

Even if it's with a US Congressman? Bluethroughu Monday #28

Then apparently CREW made a mistake when it sued DOJ gab13by13 Monday #30

Sex trafficking of a minor IS a [Federal] felony case. speak easy Monday #35

Okay atreides1 Tuesday #53

+1, any other person the DOJ would've thrown the library at them uponit7771 Tuesday #63

So? It's still a felony and a crime. brush Monday #31

It is if she crossed state lines to do it. Mr.Bill Tuesday #58

It is a Federal Felony offense if [a minor] is trafficked. speak easy Tuesday #68

no, but I believe transporting across state lines for sexual purposes is. JMCKUSICK Tuesday #66

"where the person is under 18 or where force, fraud or coercion exists" speak easy Tuesday #69

Criminals are surrounded by other criminals. Witnesses are usually criminals themselves. Irish_Dem Tuesday #54

If I live long enoughI would expect to see Garland blamed for the coming disaster gordianot Monday #9

Exactly my thoughts Dave says Monday #16

Exactly my thoughts too gab13by13 Monday #32

Saving this thread before it's deleted. Sigh usonian Monday #11

How in heaven's name is that thread similar to mine? gab13by13 Monday #34

Apologies if I goofed. usonian Tuesday #41

i might be misrembering... Takket Monday #14

He went to prison for sex trafficking among other things, Bluethroughu Monday #23

I thought Garland was spineless now I think he's complicit Tribetime Monday #15

Think he was in his underwear like Alan Dershowitz claimed? Evolve Dammit Tuesday #60

Garland was compromised the day he bent the knee. Weasel wart. NotHardly Monday #17

Not "had sex with", RAPED 0rganism Monday #18

Yep. A minor cannot consent to sex either. It is statutory rape even if she agrees that it was ok. kerry-is-my-prez Monday #33

Lather, rinse, repeat... Fiendish Thingy Monday #19

There is no defense for Merrick Garland not prosecuting gab13by13 Monday #36

Yes. Perform a blatant crime in full view of the entire country. Watch Garland's DOJ sit on its Scrivener7 Tuesday #45

Except Garland, Smith and DOJ did DO SOMETHING Fiendish Thingy Tuesday #47

Shaking my damn head. Scrivener7 Tuesday #49

Read this, and let me know what you think: Fiendish Thingy Tuesday #50

You have been wrong all this time. That's the verifiable reality. Scrivener7 Tuesday #61

Myths vs. Reality: Fiendish Thingy Tuesday #62

You were wrong. Scrivener7 Tuesday #64

Well, I guess that settles it then. Fiendish Thingy Tuesday #65

I say in my calm voice. .... Why would ANYONE defend Garland ??? So depressed. Trueblue1968 Monday #20

But, but Orrin Hatch gave him two thumbs up...🫱🫲 rubbersole Monday #24

Joe has Garland's back Kaleva Tuesday #39

Happy now that they stole that SCOTUS seat from Obama. Otherwise, Garland would be with us forever! Jit423 Tuesday #57

Some people transfer their loyalty to Obama and Biden TheKentuckian Monday #21

Post removed Post removed Monday #26

Me too. gab13by13 Tuesday #37

Normalize calling Gaetz a RAPIST for sexually AllyCat Monday #27

We don't know if Biden is watching Rachel Kaleva Tuesday #40

I am amazed Garland has not done anything visibly kansasobama Tuesday #46

The SCOTUS ruling against Colorado... returnee Tuesday #48

SCOTUS is doing their very best to protect SCROTUM (oops, I meant Orange Julius). Evolve Dammit Tuesday #56

When it comes to these fuckers orangecrush Tuesday #55

45 months and counting republianmushroom Tuesday #59

The through-thread is Federalist Society membership. Snarkoleptic Tuesday #70

W has already broke that mold. czarjak Tuesday #71