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Was just about to ask you in the other thread to make this an OP Sympthsical Nov 18 #1
I hope it adds a bit of clarity soandso Nov 18 #2
What does that even mean? Define %age difference, I don't know what you're talking about. bucolic_frolic Nov 18 #3
The percentage difference between soandso Nov 18 #5
It's the percentage of votes cast in the presidential race in excess of the votes cast in the Senate race onenote Nov 18 #7
And what this reveals soandso Nov 18 #25
Yep. There are lots of low information voters who simply choose not to vote in a race they probably don't know onenote Nov 18 #63
I'm good with that soandso Nov 18 #76
Better than someone going down the ballot and randomly picking names based on whose name they like more. MichMan Nov 19 #106
Thanks, but don't expect 2024 "election deniers" to accept facts. Silent Type Nov 18 #4
The scare quotes should be dropped. Igel Nov 18 #48
So you mean the spoon guy is full of crap? Who could have guessed? tritsofme Nov 18 #6
IIRC, he was claiming software was hacked soandso Nov 18 #8
He has made lots of baseless claims, I'll give you that. tritsofme Nov 18 #10
It's up to the people peddling this crap to show back up HereForTheParty Nov 18 #11
This guy? JanMichael Nov 18 #75
thank you for posting this. Takket Nov 18 #9
My pleasure soandso Nov 18 #19
Not the same ERW Nov 18 #83
first post huh? funny all these low post count numbers trying to whip up DU into an election conspiracy frenzy Takket Nov 18 #93
Your analysis is just meaningless numbers... SnoopDog Nov 18 #12
If a bullet ballot SickOfTheOnePct Nov 18 #15
How about the House votes? SnoopDog Nov 18 #51
It doesn't matter SickOfTheOnePct Nov 18 #56
Well, the Senate race in PA was important too SnoopDog Nov 18 #68
You don't seem to understand what a "bullet ballot" is. onenote Nov 18 #78
Right...bad guys would think to themselves... SnoopDog Nov 18 #80
So why didn't they steal the Senate races in Arizona and Wisconsin too? tritsofme Nov 18 #86
The guy pushing the conspiracy theory that the race was stolen is using that definition EdmondDantes_ Nov 18 #87
Spoonamore provided the definition: onenote Nov 18 #91
This message was self-deleted by its author Truth_Serum Nov 19 #111
The actual calculations for NC do not show a 303,039 vote difference. onenote Nov 19 #112
You're right Truth_Serum Nov 19 #113
By definition, a so called "bullet ballot" does not include... reACTIONary Nov 18 #79
See above post 80... SnoopDog Nov 18 #81
Your post 80 is exactly right, which means... reACTIONary Nov 18 #94
Concerning serious reflection and analysis.... reACTIONary Nov 18 #96
Thank you for the article! n/t Ms. Toad Nov 19 #103
Yeah, how about those soandso Nov 18 #61
lol, right...These are actual numbers, unlike the Spoon guy's make-believe numbers. tritsofme Nov 18 #16
lol soandso Nov 18 #21
Are you a mathematician? An election specialist? Statistician? SnoopDog Nov 18 #53
The numbers I posted are those posted by the states soandso Nov 18 #66
I'm not, but let me ask you this... do you think the DNC employs such people? Takket Nov 18 #84
I don't know.... Does the Democractic Party have any leadership? SnoopDog Nov 18 #90
Yeah, it's crazy that some swing states showed as much as 5% and 7% of "President Only" ballots.. Think. Again. Nov 18 #13
The numbers provided in the OP SickOfTheOnePct Nov 18 #14
Oddly enough... Think. Again. Nov 18 #26
But Spoonamore says it's 7% in Arizona SickOfTheOnePct Nov 18 #35
Lake is the only red Senate candidate on the ballot. Think. Again. Nov 18 #42
I'm not sure why you think that matters in any way? Not everyone votes a straight ticket. tritsofme Nov 18 #45
Exactly SickOfTheOnePct Nov 18 #47
maybe Kari Lake should be the one asking for a recount then LOL Takket Nov 18 #88
All this means is that a bunch of Trump voters also voted for Gallego. tritsofme Nov 18 #38
All that shows is that people split tickets soandso Nov 18 #41
And neither do you. Think. Again. Nov 18 #43
I never made any claim that necessitated access to ballots soandso Nov 18 #49
This just demonstrates split tickets Abnredleg Nov 18 #44
States prevent split ballots? Igel Nov 18 #50
lol...wow. There's no evidence to support the claim, but here's some guy who called into a radio show. tritsofme Nov 18 #18
Post removed Post removed Nov 18 #27
There is certainly a group of folks who are eager to be scammed tritsofme Nov 18 #29
Feel free to check my math in post # 26 Think. Again. Nov 18 #31
Your math in post #26 has nothing to do with the claim that there was an inordinate number of bullet ballots. onenote Nov 18 #85
But remember: " His number estimates aren't important" muriel_volestrangler Nov 18 #23
How about instead of relying on somebody else soandso Nov 18 #24
See post #26 Think. Again. Nov 18 #33
Actual numbers just aren't backing the claim. paleotn Nov 18 #65
And after viewing the interview again... Think. Again. Nov 18 #69
There's a dozen ways to slice and dice the data, but no smoking gun so far. paleotn Nov 18 #72
Steven Spoonamore on The Thom Hartmann Program Live (11/18/2024) - 02:16:30 - 02:28:45 - ConcernedCitizen1776 Nov 19 #110
How are we supposed to avoid the emotions of the election results if we can't claim the results are fraudulent? Fiendish Thingy Nov 18 #17
It's this OP that is wrong, they used the numbers from both Dem and red ballots together. Think. Again. Nov 18 #32
And as it's been pointed out to you repeatedly Zeitghost Nov 19 #115
The bullet ballots are the reason we won so many close Gov. Senate and House races Fiendish Thingy Nov 18 #20
Exactly right soandso Nov 18 #22
I'd say over 9% is a big excess of bullet ballots (see post # 26). Think. Again. Nov 18 #30
It would be SickOfTheOnePct Nov 18 #39
I saw your post and addressed it soandso Nov 18 #46
You do realize that our lack of the actual ballots... Think. Again. Nov 18 #52
You don't need to see the ballots SickOfTheOnePct Nov 18 #58
Explain what those numbers mean please? Think. Again. Nov 18 #60
Sure SickOfTheOnePct Nov 19 #116
Agreed Zeitghost Nov 19 #122
Absolutely! SickOfTheOnePct Nov 19 #123
What position? soandso Nov 18 #64
close races don't need huge numbers ERW Nov 18 #89
True enough soandso Nov 18 #97
Hi, you used numbers from both Dem and red ballots... Think. Again. Nov 18 #28
Show your work soandso Nov 18 #34
See post # 26 Think. Again. Nov 18 #36
No you didn't Zeitghost Nov 18 #100
Nope SickOfTheOnePct Nov 18 #37
Lake was the only red Senate candidate on the ballot. Think. Again. Nov 18 #40
So what? SickOfTheOnePct Nov 18 #54
And many republicans didn't like her and voted for the democratic jimfields33 Nov 18 #55
And then how did the green Senate candidate end up with over 50k more than stein? Think. Again. Nov 18 #59
Many voters think the environment is priority jimfields33 Nov 18 #62
So you think some trump voters also voted for the green senate candidate? Think. Again. Nov 18 #70
People splitting tickets differently than you think they should have is not evidence of fraud. tritsofme Nov 18 #71
Actually, I may be heading that way... Think. Again. Nov 18 #74
No. jimfields33 Nov 18 #92
Because there will have been people who voted Trump for president, and Quintana (Green) for senator muriel_volestrangler Nov 19 #104
I don't think that's the claim at all. Igel Nov 18 #57
So (please correct me if I'm wrong)... Think. Again. Nov 18 #67
Yes wanderer54 Nov 19 #105
Ding Ding Ding AZSkiffyGeek Nov 19 #108
Good job Cirsium Nov 18 #73
It's not the right soandso Nov 18 #77
yes, understood Cirsium Nov 18 #82
I don't know why they would would soandso Nov 18 #95
Well, that is depressing Cirsium Nov 19 #101
What's depressing? soandso Nov 19 #102
What is depressing? Cirsium Nov 19 #114
Au contraire soandso Nov 19 #118
Well, it took a while Cirsium Nov 19 #119
Paper ballot judge, here Maeve Nov 18 #98
Jeez soandso Nov 18 #99
"You only have to vote on what you want to vote on, just don't vote for more than one when it says only one" Maeve Nov 19 #107
At least he looked it up. soandso Nov 19 #117
I totally see California being 3% Sympthsical Nov 19 #109
Bookmarked, thanks for doing the work. scipan Nov 19 #120
YW soandso Nov 19 #121
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