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83. Not the same

Mon Nov 18, 2024, 08:41 PM

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DUers not posting the same conspiracy theories as the GOPs in 2020. Theirs were not credible because of who they were claiming did the vote rigging. Wild claims. The GOP has manipulated votes in the past i.e., the 2004 election. They have also engaged in conspiracies to prevent Dem presidents from winning (Nixon - interfering in Johnson's Vietnam peace talks, Reagan interfering with the hostage negotiations during Carter's campaign). The possibility for computer rigging is real and we should always seek to verify the results. If we did, then people Dems or GOPs wouldn't be as suspicious. We have a faith based voting system because the results are rarely verified by comparing hand counts of ballots with the computer vote totals.

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The so-called "bullet ballots" and too many voting for president only [View all] soandso Monday OP

Was just about to ask you in the other thread to make this an OP Sympthsical Monday #1

I hope it adds a bit of clarity soandso Monday #2

What does that even mean? Define %age difference, I don't know what you're talking about. bucolic_frolic Monday #3

The percentage difference between soandso Monday #5

It's the percentage of votes cast in the presidential race in excess of the votes cast in the Senate race onenote Monday #7

And what this reveals soandso Monday #25

Yep. There are lots of low information voters who simply choose not to vote in a race they probably don't know onenote Monday #63

I'm good with that soandso Monday #76

Better than someone going down the ballot and randomly picking names based on whose name they like more. MichMan Tuesday #106

Thanks, but don't expect 2024 "election deniers" to accept facts. Silent Type Monday #4

The scare quotes should be dropped. Igel Monday #48

So you mean the spoon guy is full of crap? Who could have guessed? tritsofme Monday #6

IIRC, he was claiming software was hacked soandso Monday #8

He has made lots of baseless claims, I'll give you that. tritsofme Monday #10

It's up to the people peddling this crap to show back up HereForTheParty Monday #11

This guy? JanMichael Monday #75

thank you for posting this. Takket Monday #9

My pleasure soandso Monday #19

Not the same ERW Monday #83

first post huh? funny all these low post count numbers trying to whip up DU into an election conspiracy frenzy Takket Monday #93

Your analysis is just meaningless numbers... SnoopDog Monday #12

If a bullet ballot SickOfTheOnePct Monday #15

How about the House votes? SnoopDog Monday #51

It doesn't matter SickOfTheOnePct Monday #56

Well, the Senate race in PA was important too SnoopDog Monday #68

You don't seem to understand what a "bullet ballot" is. onenote Monday #78

Right...bad guys would think to themselves... SnoopDog Monday #80

So why didn't they steal the Senate races in Arizona and Wisconsin too? tritsofme Monday #86

The guy pushing the conspiracy theory that the race was stolen is using that definition EdmondDantes_ Monday #87

Spoonamore provided the definition: onenote Monday #91

This message was self-deleted by its author Truth_Serum Tuesday #111

The actual calculations for NC do not show a 303,039 vote difference. onenote Tuesday #112

You're right Truth_Serum Tuesday #113

By definition, a so called "bullet ballot" does not include... reACTIONary Monday #79

See above post 80... SnoopDog Monday #81

Your post 80 is exactly right, which means... reACTIONary Monday #94

Concerning serious reflection and analysis.... reACTIONary Monday #96

Thank you for the article! n/t Ms. Toad Tuesday #103

Yeah, how about those soandso Monday #61

lol, right...These are actual numbers, unlike the Spoon guy's make-believe numbers. tritsofme Monday #16

lol soandso Monday #21

Are you a mathematician? An election specialist? Statistician? SnoopDog Monday #53

The numbers I posted are those posted by the states soandso Monday #66

I'm not, but let me ask you this... do you think the DNC employs such people? Takket Monday #84

I don't know.... Does the Democractic Party have any leadership? SnoopDog Monday #90

Yeah, it's crazy that some swing states showed as much as 5% and 7% of "President Only" ballots.. Think. Again. Monday #13

The numbers provided in the OP SickOfTheOnePct Monday #14

Oddly enough... Think. Again. Monday #26

But Spoonamore says it's 7% in Arizona SickOfTheOnePct Monday #35

Lake is the only red Senate candidate on the ballot. Think. Again. Monday #42

I'm not sure why you think that matters in any way? Not everyone votes a straight ticket. tritsofme Monday #45

Exactly SickOfTheOnePct Monday #47

maybe Kari Lake should be the one asking for a recount then LOL Takket Monday #88

All this means is that a bunch of Trump voters also voted for Gallego. tritsofme Monday #38

All that shows is that people split tickets soandso Monday #41

And neither do you. Think. Again. Monday #43

I never made any claim that necessitated access to ballots soandso Monday #49

This just demonstrates split tickets Abnredleg Monday #44

States prevent split ballots? Igel Monday #50

lol...wow. There's no evidence to support the claim, but here's some guy who called into a radio show. tritsofme Monday #18

Post removed Post removed Monday #27

There is certainly a group of folks who are eager to be scammed tritsofme Monday #29

Feel free to check my math in post # 26 Think. Again. Monday #31

Your math in post #26 has nothing to do with the claim that there was an inordinate number of bullet ballots. onenote Monday #85

But remember: " His number estimates aren't important" muriel_volestrangler Monday #23

How about instead of relying on somebody else soandso Monday #24

See post #26 Think. Again. Monday #33

Actual numbers just aren't backing the claim. paleotn Monday #65

And after viewing the interview again... Think. Again. Monday #69

There's a dozen ways to slice and dice the data, but no smoking gun so far. paleotn Monday #72

Steven Spoonamore on The Thom Hartmann Program Live (11/18/2024) - 02:16:30 - 02:28:45 - ConcernedCitizen1776 Tuesday #110

How are we supposed to avoid the emotions of the election results if we can't claim the results are fraudulent? Fiendish Thingy Monday #17

It's this OP that is wrong, they used the numbers from both Dem and red ballots together. Think. Again. Monday #32

And as it's been pointed out to you repeatedly Zeitghost Tuesday #115

The bullet ballots are the reason we won so many close Gov. Senate and House races Fiendish Thingy Monday #20

Exactly right soandso Monday #22

I'd say over 9% is a big excess of bullet ballots (see post # 26). Think. Again. Monday #30

It would be SickOfTheOnePct Monday #39

I saw your post and addressed it soandso Monday #46

You do realize that our lack of the actual ballots... Think. Again. Monday #52

You don't need to see the ballots SickOfTheOnePct Monday #58

Explain what those numbers mean please? Think. Again. Monday #60

Sure SickOfTheOnePct Tuesday #116

Agreed Zeitghost Tuesday #122

Absolutely! SickOfTheOnePct Tuesday #123

What position? soandso Monday #64

close races don't need huge numbers ERW Monday #89

True enough soandso Monday #97

Hi, you used numbers from both Dem and red ballots... Think. Again. Monday #28

Show your work soandso Monday #34

See post # 26 Think. Again. Monday #36

No you didn't Zeitghost Monday #100

Nope SickOfTheOnePct Monday #37

Lake was the only red Senate candidate on the ballot. Think. Again. Monday #40

So what? SickOfTheOnePct Monday #54

And many republicans didn't like her and voted for the democratic jimfields33 Monday #55

And then how did the green Senate candidate end up with over 50k more than stein? Think. Again. Monday #59

Many voters think the environment is priority jimfields33 Monday #62

So you think some trump voters also voted for the green senate candidate? Think. Again. Monday #70

People splitting tickets differently than you think they should have is not evidence of fraud. tritsofme Monday #71

Actually, I may be heading that way... Think. Again. Monday #74

No. jimfields33 Monday #92

Because there will have been people who voted Trump for president, and Quintana (Green) for senator muriel_volestrangler Tuesday #104

I don't think that's the claim at all. Igel Monday #57

So (please correct me if I'm wrong)... Think. Again. Monday #67

Yes wanderer54 Tuesday #105

Ding Ding Ding AZSkiffyGeek Tuesday #108

Good job Cirsium Monday #73

It's not the right soandso Monday #77

yes, understood Cirsium Monday #82

I don't know why they would would soandso Monday #95

Well, that is depressing Cirsium Tuesday #101

What's depressing? soandso Tuesday #102

What is depressing? Cirsium Tuesday #114

Au contraire soandso Tuesday #118

Well, it took a while Cirsium Tuesday #119

Paper ballot judge, here Maeve Monday #98

Jeez soandso Monday #99

"You only have to vote on what you want to vote on, just don't vote for more than one when it says only one" Maeve Tuesday #107

At least he looked it up. soandso Tuesday #117

I totally see California being 3% Sympthsical Tuesday #109

Bookmarked, thanks for doing the work. scipan Tuesday #120

YW soandso Tuesday #121