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98. I also completely forgot that Musk's "lottery" was only available to swing state, registered voters.
Sat Nov 16, 2024, 10:23 AM
Nov 16

That whole endeavor smelled suspicious as hell from the very beginning. It also made no sense at all from a marketing standpoint. I mean what did they hope to gain from that that they couldn't get from any number of other standard efforts, like ads. And to only allow registered voters to participate? And only those from swing states? How can you seriously say your purpose for this sweepstakes/ petition signing was to get more people to register to vote or become engaged? I mean they started this thing coincident with or after the deadline registration for the swing states. And the only information they required of the participants were names and street addresses? Not even a phone number? Not even an email address? Again, this made absolutely no sense.

I'm totally in on the Hand Jive Recount thingy. Count them up. BoRaGard Nov 16 #1
He will be on the Thomm Hartman program Monday Ferryboat Nov 16 #62
I saw this posted on Bluesky, but can't confirm. Do you have anything? Native Nov 16 #128
On Friday markodochartaigh Nov 17 #247
Thanks! Native Nov 17 #248
I've been saying from Nov. 6 that no way trump won every swing state.... brush Nov 16 #191
Didn't she say... XarmyGal Nov 16 #166
I don't recall her ever pledging to chase around conspiracy theories to placate election deniers? tritsofme Nov 16 #171
Worried? OhioBack2Blue Nov 16 #187
lol tritsofme Nov 16 #190
well why not? azureblue Nov 16 #216
Spoonamore's onto something. sop Nov 16 #2
What About These Subject Matter Experts to Endorse a Hand Recount? MrWowWow Nov 16 #64
Especially if Starlink was involved. colorado_ufo Nov 16 #215
It should be done. Liberal In Texas Nov 16 #3
EXACTLY! Lunabell Nov 16 #4
Greg Palast thinks that almost 3 million provisional ballots were dumped. TheRickles Nov 16 #5
Since Trump won by 2,705,700 more popular votes, a provisional ballot challenge might work. ancianita Nov 16 #37
Still counting OhioBack2Blue Nov 16 #189
I'm aware. We have until Dec 11. Thing is, when will count challenges be filed in courts? ancianita Nov 16 #201
Duh! malaise Nov 16 #6
NC dweller Nov 16 #7
Yeah, that is kind of suspicious. Think. Again. Nov 16 #32
How many votes did Biden get there? Surely it wasn't 356,844 - 0. TheRickles Nov 16 #48
It's an elementary school level of cheating. Evidence it and jail everyone who touched the illegitimate ballots. jaxexpat Nov 16 #68
If proven, might be ironically uncomfortable for VP Harris to certify trump lostnfound Nov 16 #77
If there is proof of enough ballot fraud the electors "faithfulness" will be a point of great focus. jaxexpat Nov 16 #96
He will be osteopath6 Nov 16 #109
All that cry baby has done his entire life is lie & cheat at everything. KS Toronado Nov 16 #142
BS Doodley Nov 16 #155
I respectfully disagree. RandomNumbers Nov 16 #158
Innocent question... waltzy Nov 16 #219
Why do you ask? Welcome to DU GP6971 Nov 16 #220
Answers RandomNumbers Nov 17 #246
No one gets to pin the legitimization of "election denial" on the Democrats when... Karasu Nov 16 #164
Counterpoint ... krkaufman Nov 16 #210
WHAT !!! HUAJIAO Nov 16 #79
See my post dweller Nov 16 #88
Yes. This is really suspicious here in NC ms liberty Nov 16 #144
Compared to other state-wide races, Trump got the 4th most votes for a Republican muriel_volestrangler Nov 16 #211
Quite possible HarryM Nov 17 #225
But she conceded Patton French Nov 16 #8
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Yes, and it's up to The People to find the evidence of fraud. ancianita Nov 16 #39
Elections are not decided because a candidate concedes or whopis01 Nov 16 #44
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Nov 16 #51
Concessions are not binding if there is fraud. OMGWTF Nov 16 #129
It doesn't matter as she would've conceeded on the basis that she had in fact lost and that the votes were legitimate Galraedia Nov 16 #198
That really is suspicious, but since she conceded so quickly I'm sure we're screwed. Vinca Nov 16 #9
Does the consession prevent a recount? MadameButterfly Nov 16 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Nov 16 #22
+1 ancianita Nov 16 #40
I would hope not, but I'm not optimistic. It's all moved into "kumbaya" mode from what I can gather. Vinca Nov 16 #107
No concession don't prevent a recount standingtall Nov 16 #147
Haven't there bern past elections.. Think. Again. Nov 16 #34
Gore rescinded his against Bush Blue_Roses Nov 17 #237
I thought so... Think. Again. Nov 17 #240
I'm sure all of this Blue_Roses Nov 17 #241
I can't access the article at Daily Kos Kaleva Nov 16 #10
I can't either. I went directly to DK and could find nothing. Maggiemayhem Nov 16 #17
I couldn't access it either MadameButterfly Nov 16 #19
This is odd dss Nov 16 #127
Yeah, getting a giant Access Denied (403) warning Babajida Nov 16 #160
No one can - DK took it down. soldierant Nov 16 #170
Brad blog interviewed the guy today on his radio show questionseverything Nov 16 #182
Is this the story you are looking for? Typewitch Nov 17 #224
Thanks! Apparently Daily Kos zapped the article Kaleva Nov 17 #239
I Concur On The Recount. GB_RN Nov 16 #11
Yes, despite Democratic voters wanting to fight... polichick Nov 16 #15
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Post removed Post removed Nov 16 #49
I can't tell you Mr. Evil Nov 16 #86
Really? Tweedy Nov 16 #145
They sent the votes to Tennessee in 2004 Beck23 Nov 16 #63
Yep, SmarTech, who was working for the Bush campaign... CaptainTruth Nov 16 #73
Who cares if she conceded, the entire planet is at stake... polichick Nov 16 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Nov 16 #27
Concession is NOT legally binding...Reread what happened during the Bush v Gore. Al Gore conceded & then The_REAL_Ecumenist Nov 16 #45
We are going to get this right osteopath6 Nov 16 #115
There are no more real elections after a dictator takes over - just shows. polichick Nov 16 #139
That is the serious concern here Babajida Nov 16 #163
Is there something we can do to make this happen MadameButterfly Nov 16 #14
Yes! Please start a thread with this. We can post when we've made the call. polichick Nov 16 #16
I need to get access to this article before I do anything so I know what I'm talking about MadameButterfly Nov 16 #20
Get access denied here too - but I read this or another letter from... polichick Nov 16 #23
It says the info came from X Loupe Garoue Nov 16 #47
Brad blog has a great article about all these concerns and interviews one election specialist questionseverything Nov 16 #183
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That's so true! It feels like an agreement was made... polichick Nov 16 #33
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Elias is on Bluesky posting about how Dems are going to fight policies... polichick Nov 16 #65
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Elias is saying there was no fraud johnnyfins Nov 16 #81
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I believe our best bet is to be as loud as possible... Think. Again. Nov 16 #36
Why would contacting those people make them believe in baseless conspiracy theories like this? tritsofme Nov 16 #159
Access denied wildflowergardener Nov 16 #18
I don't want to sound too conspiratorial here MadameButterfly Nov 16 #26
I think Daily Kos just wants people to sign in. polichick Nov 16 #28
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Nov 16 #30
How can I get access to that MadameButterfly Nov 16 #35
Here is the OP about the "letter"... Think. Again. Nov 16 #38
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Nov 16 #52
Might be taken down for a good reason creeksneakers2 Nov 16 #151
I wish they would do recounts. 2naSalit Nov 16 #25
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Nov 16 #31
NC has paper ballots Abnredleg Nov 16 #41
Try this Link MrWowWow Nov 16 #42
I found the Duty to Warn letter on Substack, and I copied it in full in a subsequent post here Native Nov 16 #50
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Nov 16 #61
Is Marc Alias looking into this? Blue Owl Nov 16 #43
Here it is on Substack: Native Nov 16 #46
Thank you! Think. Again. Nov 16 #54
I also completely forgot that Musk's "lottery" was only available to swing state, registered voters. Native Nov 16 #98
Yes, hopefully attorneys are looking into all that too. Think. Again. Nov 16 #113
excellent point NJCher Nov 16 #140
I updatedmy post. I inadvertently included the wrong link. Native Nov 16 #120
Thanks again! Think. Again. Nov 16 #124
Buell was a guest on brad cast and the brad blog has an excellent article today about his concerns questionseverything Nov 16 #181
May I ask you for a link? Or more info on the "Brad Cast" so I can find a link? Think. Again. Nov 16 #184
Google bradblog , I can't post a link on my phone but questionseverything Nov 16 #186
Thanks! I'll search now... Think. Again. Nov 16 #188
Here it is! Thanks! Think. Again. Nov 16 #192
No, thank you for everything you are doing, trying to raise awareness questionseverything Nov 16 #194
Yes, WE are ultimately responsible for our Democracy (no matter what our elected officials say about that). Think. Again. Nov 16 #196
Steven Spoonamore on The Thom Hartmann Program Live (11/18/2024) - 02:16:30 - 02:28:45 ---- ConcernedCitizen1776 Tuesday #252
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What form should these protests take? MadameButterfly Nov 16 #71
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Thanks you!!!! MadameButterfly Nov 16 #67
I updated my post. I inadvertently included the wrong link to the duty to warn letter. Native Nov 16 #121
These Election Security Experts Need to Endorse the Hand Recount MrWowWow Nov 16 #70
Thank you Helicoptercatmom Nov 16 #97
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I accidentally pasted the wrong link. Here's the correct one Native Nov 16 #123
Thank you, Native... oldsoldierfadingfast Nov 16 #209
It was also saved on archive.is (not by me) soldierant Nov 17 #245
Also can't access, but here is some other info masmdu Nov 16 #53
Also, very strange that this is not available on masmdu Nov 16 #55
How can there be 350,000 "bullet ballots" in North Carolina? Only 88,511 fewer votes for Gov. than Pres. onenote Nov 16 #56
That is my thought as well. n/t John1956PA Nov 16 #94
I keep looking at NCSBE dweller Nov 16 #104
Canvassing in NC ends Friday, November 15th Abnredleg Nov 16 #133
Bold of you to ask for evidence Sympthsical Nov 16 #117
So how many of us have called the White House? Marc Elias? The governor of NC? The governors of the swing states? BComplex Nov 16 #57
I agree Beck23 Nov 16 #59
Wow. Can you find any documentation of that online? Native Nov 16 #100
Stephen Spoonamore is a grifter. DiamondShark Nov 17 #227
Interesting. Native Nov 17 #231
This message was self-deleted by its author DiamondShark Nov 17 #232
When you spend as much time as I have... DiamondShark Nov 17 #233
Mango Mussolini filed 62 lawsuits contesting the results of the 2020 election. Why doesn't Kamala do the same??? LaMouffette Nov 16 #66
Because Harris isn't a grifter. DiamondShark Nov 17 #228
If a recount shows there was fraud defacto7 Nov 16 #69
Wasn't aware of the bullet ballots - they don't make sense. I would fully support a hand count. n/t iluvtennis Nov 16 #72
As reluctant as I am to conspiracies, something doesn't add up especially after reading this underpants Nov 16 #74
Please fix your source or delete this post. AllyCat Nov 16 #75
see post #46 Native Nov 16 #102
Maybe you should delete your post asm128 Nov 16 #131
Actually, I did read it. The link was there with where the poster AllyCat Nov 16 #135
ban hammer Kali999 Nov 16 #137
The social media influencers are grifting. DiamondShark Nov 17 #229
The technical report came out a few days ago Beck23 Nov 16 #76
Could you please share the technical report? masmdu Nov 16 #83
There are others here who can understand some or all of that "IT lingo". Any reason you aren't sharing the link? Bernardo de La Paz Nov 16 #108
I will summarize it... DiamondShark Nov 17 #230
K&R SheltieLover Nov 16 #78
Start with the states that he was screaming fraud thinkingagain Nov 16 #80
This certainly seems suspicious but... Wiz Imp Nov 16 #82
Trump was targeting low propensity voters Abnredleg Nov 16 #116
Keep in mind that this fraud, if true, johnnyfins Nov 16 #84
If this were a primary The Madcap Nov 16 #87
You would have to be really stupid to stack 300,000 votes for only Trump and not expected to.. yourout Nov 16 #89
There are posts on Reddit where people are looking at New York and finding a lot of the same thing Native Nov 16 #110
Now I'm suspicious and want to know more. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Nov 16 #90
This isn't about "conspiracy"! CaptainTruth Nov 16 #91
Republicans haven't won an honest Presidential Election or been the legacy of a dishonest one since Ike. Botany Nov 16 #92
Makes more sense to me than him bringing in new voters Tribetime Nov 16 #95
Read this last night, and it certainly merits further consideration CanonRay Nov 16 #99
"Access Denied" on all links about Soonamore on Daily Kos karin_sj Nov 16 #101
Trying to correct the typo on my post... karin_sj Nov 16 #103
see my post, #46. i copied the letter. Native Nov 16 #112
This might be of help. DiamondShark Nov 17 #234
Bullet Ballots? Mr.Bee Nov 16 #105
Not rigged osteopath6 Nov 16 #111
per NBC, experts found 3 dozen US voting sysyems connected to the Internet. Native Nov 16 #114
Pisswig and Mikey's dweller Nov 16 #118
Article from Jan 2020, but still potentially relevant Mike 03 Nov 16 #134
& this other oldie but goodie - Connell being suicided before testifying about voter fraud and also mentions Spoonamore Native Nov 16 #136
That is auspicious. LiberalFighter Nov 16 #119
This looks like credible evidence that the election was hacked. If somebody told you before the election that Trump Doodley Nov 16 #125
a reply to a post on Bluesky says Spoonamore will be on the Thom Hartmann Show this Monday Native Nov 16 #126
This is not far fetched... judy Nov 16 #130
Computer experts? Progressive dog Nov 16 #132
Programmable electronics can be programmed. But, Hermit-The-Prog Nov 16 #138
Musk just warned us on Twitter that there will be consequences for those who pushed foreign interference hoaxes Native Nov 16 #141
Sure Leon dweller Nov 16 #146
It won't be Merrick Wednesdays Nov 16 #199
My Dad voted for Harris and no one else on the ballot. It's not uncommon. Wanderlust988 Nov 16 #143
You are right, it's not uncommon. But this election was uncommonly higher than all past elections. Native Nov 16 #150
And, if not mistaken, uncommonly higher specifically in the swing states Babajida Nov 16 #169
The actual numbers don't support the the "bullet ballot" claim. onenote Nov 16 #179
Do you have evidence that it's not uncommon? The author of the letter states that it is usually Doodley Nov 16 #157
the letter discussed this Native Nov 16 #173
Maybe we should pay these experts big money BootinUp Nov 16 #148
Keep this at the top. nt returnee Nov 16 #149
I'm all in favor of audits. snot Nov 16 #152
Why are we not doing a recount? What is there to lose? pinkstarburst Nov 16 #153
There are statutory requirements for recounts Abnredleg Nov 16 #161
Any candidate can ask for a recount, but they have to pay if the difference is above a certain percentage questionseverything Nov 16 #218
I'm very skeptical here creeksneakers2 Nov 16 #154
he testified in that case. considered an expert. this is all over Reddit and Native Nov 16 #176
I debunked it here: creeksneakers2 Wednesday #264
I'm wondering if someone threatened the Harris Walz families MagickMuffin Nov 16 #156
Good lord, Harris and Waltz aren't shucking ridiculous conspiracy theories...so you concoct another ridiculous tritsofme Nov 16 #162
Nor am I, I stated it could be a possibility not that it happened MagickMuffin Nov 16 #204
There's a possibility that little green men from Mars used a space laser to change the votes. tritsofme Nov 16 #214
Al Gore spoke eloquently on why he stopped pursuing the recount Babajida Nov 16 #168
Well Al Gore had no choice in the matter after the 5 to 4 decision MagickMuffin Nov 16 #205
Can you post the salient points of that article here? Babajida Nov 16 #165
see post #54. it's there. Native Nov 16 #172
Duty to warn WriteFight Tuesday #251
I completely believed that Harris was/is a fighter! That she is strong, incorruptible, brave, and different. colorado_ufo Nov 16 #167
I would give money to do this for Harris.............and Greg Palast is really good when it comes to voting............ turbinetree Nov 16 #174
Here is how. After the first $41,300 goes to the DNC, the next $3,300 goes for the Harris recount fund MichMan Nov 17 #235
Thank you turbinetree Nov 18 #249
Democracy requires the certainty that such a recount would provide. n/t Beartracks Nov 16 #175
Could also it be that a large number of MAGA voters cared only about voting for Trump Ocelot II Nov 16 #177
They were targeting low propensity voters Abnredleg Nov 16 #180
In Seven swing states then they voted for trump and then voted for the Democratic running for senate. Ninga Tuesday #257
And where is Trump on recounts and rigged elections? He barely won a majority bucolic_frolic Nov 16 #178
Well time's a wasting, better get a move on it. /nt bucolic_frolic Nov 16 #185
It's just so hard for us to admit to ourselves. SidneyR Nov 16 #193
Heads up! Recounts require observers! Hope22 Nov 16 #195
What happened to trusting our election processes and officials? HereForTheParty Nov 16 #197
any computer system that emulates human work -- requires human spot checks cadoman Nov 16 #200
Im all for it if this is true....makes more sense to me than drumph gaining voters Tribetime Nov 16 #202
Harris Will Ask For Recounts annielion Nov 16 #203
Any body know ????? aurora the great Nov 16 #206
Jeeze... Not this shit again. reACTIONary Nov 16 #207
Does it have to be Harris? mzmolly Nov 16 #208
I think it has to be Harris annielion Nov 16 #212
Crud. I wonder if a lower level candidate can do it? mzmolly Nov 16 #217
Lower level candidate? annielion Nov 17 #222
Looks like the first step would be for everyone to donate $44,600 apiece MichMan Nov 17 #238
I mean somebody down ballot. mzmolly Nov 17 #242
Unless it is a statewide office, any recount would only be for a limited area MichMan Nov 17 #243
Senate candidates mzmolly Nov 17 #244
When I lived in WI, I watched the REBULICAN city clerk, remove ballots from the voting machine, Bluethroughu Nov 16 #213
This Could Be DallasNE Nov 17 #221
I'm glad to see this on the top of the greatest page nt garybeck Nov 17 #223
Do not promote ridiculous, bigoted, or extreme-fringe conspiracy theories ... TomWilm Nov 17 #226
"extreme-fringe conspiracy theories" - TBF Tuesday #254
I am quoting the DU guide lines, as you might be aware ... TomWilm Tuesday #260
I'm not as confident as you are in the process - TBF Tuesday #263
Spoonamore is a Republican. FYI DiamondShark Nov 17 #236
So is Dick Cheney. Your point? nt TBF Tuesday #255
Do you trust Dick Cheney? DiamondShark Tuesday #256
I trust very few people and party has little to do with it - TBF Tuesday #259
I agree with what you said. DiamondShark Tuesday #261
This message was self-deleted by its author DiamondShark Tuesday #262
Duty to warn WriteFight Tuesday #250
Duty To Warn letters WriteFight Tuesday #253
K&R for exposure. Nt Ninga Tuesday #258
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