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AloeVera

(1,950 posts)
118. Are you kidding?
Fri Nov 15, 2024, 03:09 PM
Nov 15

You can't say anything against AIPAC, surely you know that. Maybe that is changing but at such a glacial pace I never noticed.

Who is this "you" you insult and accuse? The entire pro-justice/ human rights/pro-Pal movement or just me? Both, I guess.

But for the record I didn't agree with the Abandon Harris strategy. Counter-productive and also harmful to people in the U.S. too. I probably hate Trump as much if not more than Netanyahu. I am aghast and in despair too.

The difference is I saw it fucking coming. Not because I think Muslims/Arabs are stupid etc as so many here do. I want no part of this incitement to Muslim hatred. Threads like these make me sick. But because I could understand that this community was put into a corner with no good choices and I was afraid they would make the wrong one. I based this on what I might do if I were in their shoes. And I can do that very well now, having witnessed the carnage in Gaza and having a particularly sensitive system that experiences human suffering through some kind of osmosis. I often wish it weren't so.

Please don't arrogantly assume people are stupid, or not as politically savvy as you. I understand the tightrope Biden was walking. But I saw how time and again he jumped off on Israel's side, and NEVER the Palestinians. He erased all red lines himself, all the way up to the one called ethnic cleansing, as we now see. The Muslim community saw it too.

"Live with that"?? I agree, hard times are coming for those that made the wrong choices. On both sides.

Israel needed U.S. bombs and weapons to carry out its massive aerial assault. Without those, Gaza would be standing and tens of thousands would be alive. It is gaslighting or ignorance to claim it could have done it alone. It simply is not the reality.

Do you really think adherence to policy and power structures and rules of the pecking order applies even when you believe your people are being genocided and their land about to be stolen as well? I don't.

Have a nice day.

HAHAHAHA they can all GFT. AkFemDem Nov 14 #1
No kidding DENVERPOPS Nov 14 #22
They voted wrong so let's leave them to be devoured by the psycho... AloeVera Nov 15 #108
Suuurrreeee Envirogal Nov 15 #112
Are you kidding? AloeVera Nov 15 #118
You are 50 years late Envirogal Nov 15 #113
See my reply 118 above. I replied to the wrong post. AloeVera Nov 15 #119
Ah huh. Envirogal Nov 15 #120
Still blaming me personally I see... AloeVera Nov 15 #121
Well I don't think you did this per se Envirogal Nov 15 #124
A few things... AloeVera Saturday #127
You really don't understand U.S. politics. yardwork 1 hr ago #133
This is one of the biggest self-owns in U.S. politics. yardwork 1 hr ago #132
This message was self-deleted by its author yardwork 1 hr ago #130
You don't get it. yardwork 1 hr ago #131
That's Ground Fault Testing, Guaranteed Funds Transfer... CaptainTruth Nov 14 #28
Inquiring Minds want to Know! reACTIONary Nov 14 #36
GO. FUCK. THEMSELVES. AZ8theist Nov 14 #67
Got it! Thanks! CaptainTruth Nov 15 #94
Go f*llate T***p? ms liberty Nov 14 #40
No,... that only applies to mic,... magicarpet Nov 15 #102
My guess is a typo and that what was intended was GFY. TomSlick Nov 14 #68
The T is for themselves Sundance1220 Nov 14 #79
Of course it is. TomSlick Nov 14 #89
Inhumanity Ann B Nov 14 #88
Where exactly is the humanity Sundance1220 Nov 15 #96
Thank you. AloeVera Nov 15 #105
Oh stop crying. This is just foolishness. yardwork 55 min ago #135
Sure, that'll work. Envirogal Nov 15 #116
More fear uncertainty and doubt from a brand new DUer. yardwork 57 min ago #134
Totally agree gopiscrap Nov 15 #100
Yes, these Palestine supporting assholes can fuck ALL the way off with their request for help from Joe! beaglelover Nov 14 #2
Absolutely Rebl2 Nov 14 #58
They should have supported Harris. ellemb Nov 14 #3
Well yes Rebl2 Nov 14 #54
Dip-shittery has consequences. nt The Unmitigated Gall Nov 14 #4
True Rebl2 Nov 14 #56
Let's see, what could these people have done to help the situation? Hmmm. Vote for Kamala? Hekate Nov 14 #5
They wanted & Voted for TSF.. Go Ask him for HELP... Cha Nov 14 #6
Jill Stein voters are a special kind of stupid. GoodRaisin Nov 14 #10
Sorry, you are on your own. 33taw Nov 14 #7
They dug their own hole. magicarpet Nov 15 #104
They always were. Nt AloeVera Nov 15 #109
Womp womp BannonsLiver Nov 14 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author BannonsLiver Nov 14 #9
So I guess the thrill is gone. It was fun when you did that. kerry-is-my-prez Nov 14 #11
They don't want his help, they want him to act out their sick dictator porn fantasies. tritsofme Nov 14 #12
They need to learn how to play our political system. Omnipresent Nov 14 #13
Call 1-800-ASK-JILL. cloudbase Nov 14 #14
Speechless........ Hope22 Nov 14 #15
Wow! That struck a bell. "The melting pot doesn't melt any more." Biophilic Nov 14 #17
Pearl was a gem of a person. Hope22 Nov 14 #20
I guess so...and a very clear thinker; straight to the heart of the problem. Biophilic Nov 14 #23
So who is "Dear Pearl"? reACTIONary Nov 14 #39
Pearl, an 80 year old Jamaican immigrant who lived next door to my sister. Hope22 Nov 14 #44
... littlemissmartypants Nov 14 #61
Let them plead with Trump and Vance DFW Nov 14 #16
Dance with the lady who invited you to the party magicarpet Nov 15 #107
check this out at 2:11 DFW Nov 15 #117
They wanted to punish Biden and the Democrats, but they just punished themselves. sop Nov 14 #18
Actually they helped take the rest of us down as well. Nt Hope22 Nov 14 #25
Yes they Rebl2 Nov 14 #59
Certainly not "just". They wanted to punish Democrats is code for they wanted black people, women, and gay people to TheKentuckian Nov 14 #78
Harsh, but probably true. yardwork 52 min ago #136
Isn't this the "White Women "don't comment" to this. Mossfern Nov 14 #19
No Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Nov 14 #21
I did watch it Mossfern Nov 14 #29
she was venting about the 53% who voted orange feces Nimble_Idea Nov 14 #84
Yet, she didn't specify Mossfern Nov 14 #85
"Not all white women!" Parallax El 51 min ago #137
Yes, this is the woman with that rant. usedtobedemgurl Nov 14 #45
Me too Mossfern Nov 14 #47
I saw that! usedtobedemgurl Nov 14 #53
I saw the rant about white women. Hope22 Nov 15 #115
Biden has been trying to negotiate peace since Oct. 2023! BadgerMom Nov 14 #24
I though Blinken was going to die of exhaustion or one time! Hope22 Nov 14 #26
Yes, what he did was very hard indeed. But he pulled it off! AloeVera Nov 15 #111
Hopefully he can go far away.. Hope22 Nov 15 #114
They made thair beds. RandySF Nov 14 #27
She's good. Baitball Blogger Nov 14 #30
Dear Uncommitted leaders, see paragraph 3 of my post from a week ago Mortos Nov 14 #31
Palestinians OrangeJoe Nov 14 #51
To Paraphrase this clip from Airplane!... nycbos Nov 14 #32
nailed it et tu Nov 14 #33
I really don't care, do you? BluenFLA Nov 14 #34
I am OVER anyone who votes against their best interest nini Nov 14 #35
100% spot on. LoisB Nov 14 #38
This speaks loudly to me. Parallax El 48 min ago #138
Say bye-bye to an independent Ukraine too Farmer-Rick Nov 14 #37
President Biden says there is already enough committed to Ukraine to keep them supplied thru next year. PortTack Nov 14 #42
That's good to hear wryter2000 Nov 14 #49
Fuck them Pototan Nov 14 #41
It's even worse than bite nose to spite face. hvn_nbr_2 Nov 14 #46
It's too damn cold in here hvn_nbr_2 Nov 14 #43
Faces meet the Leopards Justice matters. Nov 14 #48
Thing is... wryter2000 Nov 14 #50
Too late. The leopards are already getting fat. StarryNite Nov 14 #52
Netanyahu is power hungry and no one is going to be able to do anything w/ him, period. He was on the verge of SWBTATTReg Nov 14 #55
The Biden administration did almost nothing to stem the flow of arms to Israel for over a year Rob H. Nov 14 #57
So what? The options remain the same and there is more than one issue in the world. TheKentuckian 26 min ago #139
Too bad, so sad Betty Boom Nov 14 #60
Im sorry. Im out of fucks to give. The Third Doctor Nov 14 #62
I totally agree Figarosmom Nov 14 #63
They are just as fucked as the rest of us. Basso8vb Nov 14 #64
Sorry to say this but,,, Pas-de-Calais Nov 14 #65
It's like this! bee_peaceful Nov 14 #66
We told them. mn9driver Nov 14 #69
PSGWSP LW1977 Nov 14 #70
IHNIWYATNTSBIDYRTNSI JoseBalow Nov 14 #75
Trump had already coordinated with Netanyahu to not negotiate a ceasefire until after the election Galraedia Nov 14 #71
Truth 👆 and she speaks for me and how I feel about this situation. n/t iluvtennis Nov 14 #72
I totally disagree karin_sj Nov 14 #73
It's aimed specifically at the people who advocated wryter2000 Nov 14 #87
Don't ask "Genocide Joe." Ask either "Genocide Jill" or "Demolition Derby Donald" instead. DFW Nov 14 #74
Never go full Allahu Akbar. Efilroft Sul Nov 14 #76
These are not serious people 😔 Blue_Tires Nov 14 #77
These idiots voted for and supported trump and it is sad seeing them ask President Biden to save them LetMyPeopleVote Nov 14 #80
The uncommitted delegate in the video went on MSNBC to say he would vote for Harris and asked Earthrise Nov 14 #81
Most of the them and in G Meowmee Nov 14 #82
tots and pears for gaza or was it haza Nimble_Idea Nov 14 #83
Wow. Nt AloeVera Nov 15 #110
Wait 2 years and see how many are begging for the return of Biden. republianmushroom Nov 14 #86
GFY Blue for the win Nov 15 #90
Go ask who you voted for to help.. Blue for the win Nov 15 #91
We lost because of stupid people with short memories. Emile Nov 15 #92
That's harsh imo jfz9580m Nov 15 #93
This Is The Beginning... OhioTim Nov 15 #95
It could happen to any of them. Hope22 Saturday #128
At the link he said one thing I agree with. Grins Nov 15 #97
Yes to the first part. Brave of you to speak this truth AloeVera Nov 15 #103
All of this and T has never stopped fueling the fires Hope22 Saturday #129
I fear Linda ladeewolf Nov 15 #98
I refuse to click on anything that promotes or links to X Bird Lady Nov 15 #99
Sorry y'all. Lunabell Nov 15 #101
It's their country too... Hope22 Nov 15 #122
I was actually referring to the Palestinian people. Lunabell Nov 15 #123
I'm not sure you have to apologize. Hope22 Nov 15 #125
The dick tator has again won. I propose that if one did, they all did! GreenWave Nov 15 #106
Handle the consequences kansasobama Nov 15 #126
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