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BootinUp

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65. It's amazing to me how few will say the answer

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Fri Nov 15, 2024, 11:15 AM

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is the pandemic.

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WHY did we lose? [View all] BootinUp Nov 14 OP

The media sakabatou Nov 14 #1

This! FalloutShelter Nov 14 #7

Trump's win is still paying off for the media, his cabinet choices make good news content. dem4decades Nov 15 #51

I will NEVER forgive the media. BigDemVoter Nov 18 #118

I'd say the viral spread of misinformation. n/t femmedem Nov 14 #2

A huge factor but not directly in our control. nt BootinUp Nov 14 #3

So do nothing? MaineBlueBear Nov 15 #52

In todays media environment BootinUp Nov 15 #69

You didn't ask what could have been done differently. Susan Calvin Nov 15 #106

Simple: Lost touch with the voters Sympthsical Nov 14 #4

Sounds simple. BootinUp Nov 14 #6

I'm thinking of writing a short essay about it Sympthsical Nov 14 #20

Thank you for sharing your thoughts. I need to consider them longer. nt BootinUp Nov 14 #31

I don't really disagree that we've lost touch with voters mountain grammy Nov 14 #33

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I was sick listening to this speech mountain grammy Nov 15 #64

It's about preserving the white anglo male, anti women and anti minorities power structure GoreWon2000 Nov 15 #76

Normalization by the MSM, endless unchallenged lies by RW media, the swamp of social media tools NewHendoLib Nov 14 #5

Yes, but NO answer to that problem is not acceptable. nt BootinUp Nov 14 #8

As it stands, we have no answer to this problem. It has taken decades and huge money NewHendoLib Nov 14 #9

If you think about it though, we have beaten these issues before. It was worse this time because: Pandemic. BootinUp Nov 14 #10

Harris should have run her own race 4th gen blue Nov 14 #11

RIIIIIIIIIIIGHT Skittles Nov 14 #13

Hardly relayerbob Nov 15 #105

MISINFORMATION Skittles Nov 14 #12

I did not see trans folk as a top exit poll answer. BootinUp Nov 14 #16

I HEAR IT CONSTANTLY FROM THE REPUKES AROUND ME Skittles Nov 14 #18

They weren't going to vote for Harris anyway Shrek Nov 15 #55

PLENTY Skittles Nov 15 #108

Bad voters, ignorant voters. Women hating going on. Trump evil. Trueblue1968 Nov 14 #14

The Dumbshit vote. The Repub dumbshits who were dazzled by "They're eating the cats".... albacore Nov 14 #26

Biden got 81 million votes in 2020 while Harris got 73 million votes in 2024 Kennah Nov 14 #15

I guess you don't like this thread. BootinUp Nov 14 #19

That number just blows my mind. How?? JanMichael Nov 14 #32

Biden stepping out so late DeepWinter Nov 15 #56

THIS. Dulcinea Nov 15 #91

We lost because the president had a 39% approval rating in exit polls. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 14 #17

I know. I trace it back to the economic pain from the pandemic mostly. nt BootinUp Nov 14 #21

That's it (fairly or not). Presidential candidates of the same party as the incumbent President, surfered Nov 14 #27

Trump's awfulness is what made it close. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 14 #29

+1 Shermann Nov 15 #54

Trump was at 34% toward the end of his first term Zambero Nov 15 #82

I've been trying to figure it out Tribetime Nov 14 #22

I like the fact that you are considering all angles. peace. nt BootinUp Nov 14 #24

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Pizza...Pizza here!! GP6971 Nov 14 #40

The Unicorn POOP was in Overload. Cha Nov 14 #44

Don't you ever tire of pizza?? GP6971 Nov 14 #41

Too Much Unicorn POOP. Cha Nov 14 #43

It's really a shame that they don't GP6971 Nov 14 #45

lol.. I saw that. Sounds Cha Nov 15 #48

Plus not enough time to campaign Polybius Nov 15 #73

We didn't get as many votes as the other guys. Iggo Nov 14 #23

I guess you don't like this thread, either. nt BootinUp Nov 14 #25

The underlying reason is quite simple. Aussie105 Nov 14 #28

You think he has 51% of the US population voting for a strong man? Nah. Maybe BootinUp Nov 14 #30

More like 22% of the US population. nt Shermann Nov 15 #59

I think it is obvious there is no one reason, imo anyway Meowmee Nov 14 #34

The vote counts was hacked Farmer-Rick Nov 14 #35

Putin and Musk Wicked Blue Nov 14 #36

When one company is beaten by a rival company, should they say it is the fault of the customers? Should they say Doodley Nov 14 #37

Media, Bettie Nov 14 #39

Because we failed to convince the majority of American voters we'd do a better job at what was important to them WarGamer Nov 14 #42

Of course, but there has to be more to the story. nt BootinUp Nov 15 #47

What was important to them ? kacekwl Nov 15 #66

We Didn't DET Nov 15 #46

51% of voting Americans get their information from propaganda and overt lying sources, including bots and trolls seeking hlthe2b Nov 15 #49

Right wing propaganda, misogyny, and the economy. Elessar Zappa Nov 15 #50

Social media too. Initech Nov 15 #72

I consider that under the "right wing propaganda" umbrella. Elessar Zappa Nov 15 #75

Well, if you watch Fox, they're back to acting like DC is their personal property again. Initech Nov 15 #79

1996 IRAIIRA Hippasus Nov 15 #53

I really do not think we did. LiberalArkie Nov 15 #57

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Religion. Mariana Nov 15 #61

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What does that have to do with my reply? Mariana Nov 15 #63

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Yes, 58% of Catholics voted for Trump. Mariana Nov 15 #93

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Your information is irrelevant to the topic of this thread. Mariana Nov 15 #95

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The topic of this thread is "WHY did we lose?" Mariana Nov 15 #97

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One big reason TFG came into power Mariana Nov 15 #101

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I don't believe you. Sounds like paranoid persecution complex bullshit thebigidea Nov 15 #113

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Agree - I think this is the sleeper reason that we haven't focused on TBF Nov 17 #114

The thing is, it's not a sleeper reason. Mariana Nov 17 #115

It's amazing to me how few will say the answer BootinUp Nov 15 #65

Citizens United crazylikafox Nov 15 #67

We're not ready to elect a woman Arazi Nov 15 #68

Shudda, coulda, woulda... My guess is that Biden should have not run but supported Harris giving her more time for CTyankee Nov 15 #70

One of the factors we're overlooking: Isreal / Palestine Initech Nov 15 #71

Yes, but a smaller factor than the economy, BootinUp Nov 15 #74

Two things TheFarseer Nov 15 #77

Lies from the Republican Propaganda Machine Emile Nov 15 #78

A different view LogDog75 Nov 15 #80

Inflation was halted, but prices really never came down much.. Omnipresent Nov 15 #81

And that is why I say pandemic. Just fyi BootinUp Nov 15 #83

Inflation was a result of the pandemic so... Omnipresent Nov 15 #84

Sexism and Racism TrunKated Nov 15 #85

This poll needs more options Babajida Nov 15 #86

Trump had a four year long, 24-7 media promotion. lees1975 Nov 15 #87

We lost bc of White voters. Yavin4 Nov 15 #88

I'm not gonna vote in this poll, but I saw a LOT of pushback regarding Harris' "selection". Hellbound Hellhound Nov 15 #89

Check your phone's spam folder. DiamondShark Nov 15 #90

That poll is a drastic oversimplification iemanja Nov 15 #98

The Right-wing media/billionaires/anti-women/lots and lots of lies. chouchou Nov 15 #100

Poor options. brush Nov 15 #102

Because we played the I_UndergroundPanther Nov 15 #103

4 - Too many ignorant assholes voting relayerbob Nov 15 #104

I passed, but it's not President Biden BunkieBandit Nov 15 #107

Too many fucking polls being paid outlandish attention. marble falls Nov 15 #109

Really??? BootinUp Nov 18 #117

Really. marble falls Nov 18 #119

There is a reason we don't see eye to eye, but I don't have a clue what it is. BootinUp Nov 18 #120

Says the guy who who responded, "Really??". marble falls Nov 18 #121

Yeah, but you don't get to tell me what to post. So I discarded that immediately, lol. BootinUp Nov 18 #122

And visa versa. marble falls Nov 18 #123

Lets do this again some time! BootinUp Nov 18 #124

Let's not. marble falls Nov 18 #125

Exactly, its your choice. Make it a good one. BootinUp Nov 18 #126

Why do we continue to not talk about the number one reason the massive massive misinformation campaign by Trump Russia oldmanlynn Nov 15 #112

Because voters in some states preferred trump over Harris. Enough of them to elect him. nt Autumn Nov 17 #116

The election was stolen and we let it happen. Irish_Dem Nov 18 #127

The pandemic.Voters either lost their damn minds or retreated into a daily life bubble. haele Nov 18 #128