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MineralMan

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16. I'm afraid that history shows that idea not to be true.

Fri Nov 15, 2024, 09:58 AM

Nov 15

Of course, you have to know history to understand that. Few people actually do.

Chaos and violence are actually the norm. Peace and tranquility are decidedly not.

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The Worse the Chaos That Results, the Sooner the Eventual Revulsion and Turnaround [View all] babylonsister Nov 15 OP

Maximum pain Macrophylla Nov 15 #1

We see no evidence that the American people will experience revulsion and a turnaround. Irish_Dem Nov 15 #2

It's all theoretical Macrophylla Nov 15 #3

How much pain will the cult need to make changes? Irish_Dem Nov 15 #5

Koolaid, perhaps? Linda ladeewolf Nov 15 #35

Exactly. Irish_Dem Nov 15 #37

American Ignoratti... La Coliniere Nov 15 #9

I hate to admit it Scubamatt Nov 15 #32

And the best defense will be the use of humor. multigraincracker Nov 15 #34

Where is... brakester Nov 15 #39

On Fantasy Island having Daiquiris with Mr Roarke and Tattoo TheKentuckian Nov 17 #59

Then it'll be too late GoreWon2000 Nov 15 #40

What if Russia uses the United States for WWIII to attack and destroy Europe? DSandra Nov 16 #44

The Japanese and Germans could not stop Hitler. Irish_Dem Nov 16 #49

The only thing that fascists listen to is power and force DSandra Nov 16 #50

Exactly. Irish_Dem Nov 16 #51

So Americans should just let them go and arrest immigrants, liberals, and LGBT people? DSandra Nov 16 #52

We have not figured out a strategy yet. Irish_Dem Nov 16 #53

Better start working on alternate methods of communication.... DSandra Nov 16 #55

That is probably the least of our problems right now. Irish_Dem Nov 16 #57

Putin will destroy Europe on his own GoreWon2000 Nov 17 #63

Isn't this what everyone was saying the accelerationists wanted and why they voted for Trump to burn it all down? Fish700 Nov 17 #60

Exactly... There is no bottom Blue_Tires Nov 15 #11

I know we keep being told what Trump and his cult cannot/will not do. Irish_Dem Nov 15 #13

The bottom is America becoming like Afghanistan DSandra Nov 16 #45

With Donnie we're halfway there 😞 Blue_Tires Nov 16 #46

If you take social security and Medicare away from senior citizens milestogo Nov 16 #47

I suspect it will be done cleverly and in increments. Irish_Dem Nov 16 #48

Good... Think. Again. Nov 15 #4

Rather than putting cash under the mattress Dan Nov 15 #6

You know they want to end the banking system as we know it Farmer-Rick Nov 15 #19

Within the expected chaos, there will pathways to effective resistance. Magoo48 Nov 15 #20

It requires the goring of personal oxen to get their attention EYESORE 9001 Nov 15 #7

People... 2naSalit Nov 15 #8

By the time we hit rock bottom, Blue_Tires Nov 15 #10

Im pretty sure most of the cult will gladly drink Johonny Nov 15 #12

Probably an awful thing to say - Lokee11 Nov 15 #18

Let trumpers DownriverDem Nov 15 #14

When things go in the shitter you know they will blame... S/V Loner Nov 15 #15

I'm afraid that history shows that idea not to be true. MineralMan Nov 15 #16

omg Passages Nov 15 #17

The cult is so friggin brainwashed they'll be blaming Biden for inflation in 18 months BeyondGeography Nov 15 #21

Nope. They'll keep blaming their problems on drag queens and immigrants, LuvLoogie Nov 15 #22

Fascist regimes can be very resilient Nasruddin Nov 15 #23

It could help in the midterms if we survive til then. surfered Nov 15 #24

turnaround voteragain Nov 15 #25

This won't happen if media like Fox News continue keeping them in the dark oldmanlynn Nov 15 #26

When it effects their wallet, they just might realize they were conned. appleannie1 Nov 15 #27

Yea right. It's easier to con someone than convince them they have been conned. Ray Bruns Nov 15 #33

Germany eventually recovered from Hitler, but the cost was horrific. Ocelot II Nov 15 #28

I will be honest, though part of the issue is the Democratic Party oldmanlynn Nov 15 #29

Oldmanlynn, brakester Nov 16 #41

Sorry was letting my phone dictate. I corrected it. oldmanlynn Nov 17 #58

But the problem remains. We still have to listen to Trump's every brain fart for the next four years. Ray Bruns Nov 15 #30

It's a hope I've been clinging to. It's one reason... LAS14 Nov 15 #31

Something seems to be forgotten though shawn703 Nov 15 #36

Yes! Mencken said it years ago Grins Nov 15 #38

This sounds like the Susan Sarandon theory of government and revolution. JustABozoOnThisBus Nov 16 #42

Election cycles usually go in 4-8 years but if we no longer have real elections, that won't happen. kerry-is-my-prez Nov 16 #43

That's nice, the revultion factor witll cause a negative reaction and eventual turnaround. brush Nov 16 #54

Easy to say if your not LGBT DSandra Nov 16 #56

Those outside the "mainstream" John Shaft Nov 17 #61

For much of America, all it takes is a job loss and their job field being automated, making it hard or impossible... DSandra Nov 17 #62