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51. Instead of chasing Trumper votes we'll never get

Thu Nov 14, 2024, 08:49 PM

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I'd much rather concentrate on WHY we didn't get our own people to turn out in sufficient numbers.

Because if enough Dem voters showed up we aren't even having this conversation.

And just out of curiosity, what exactly was Trump's "winning message"? Because after the same repetitive, incoherent slurred mumbling stories that went nowhere about Haitians, Venezuelans, Hannibal Lecter, "the weave" and Arnold Palmer's peener, I can only recall a few things that were even in the neighborhood of political messages:

1. Biggest mass deportation ever, on the scale of millions

2. Total immunity for police being charged with crime

3. TARIFFS TARIFFS AND MORE TARIFFS!

4. I'M THE GREATEST MAN WHO EVER LIVED!

5. Dems stole 2020 with 30 million migrants voting for us somehow...

6. America is a shithole third world country

7. Military tribunals and firing squads for all his "political enemies" and anybody else he wanted revenge against.

8. Shutting down CNN, NBC, CBS or whatever network he was angry at that day.

9. Kamala Harris is dumb

I'd love to hear any explanation for why these political messages resonated so much with independents and working class white folks... 🤔

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Ok, so what's the path to taking back the Senate? [View all] Bleacher Creature Nov 13 OP

Im still hoping Casey pulls it out 26,500 difference with 82,000 Tribetime Nov 13 #1

It might start with Lisa Murkowski changing her affiliation to Independent.... Drum Nov 13 #2

Dont put money on keeping GA either. I'm betting Kemp will run hootman Nov 13 #3

I think Kemp wants to run but... AkFemDem Nov 13 #5

Don't you think Kemp wants to run for president? Buckeyeblue Nov 14 #33

Possibly; but being in the Senate would get him name recognition. hootman Nov 14 #52

Tillis, Tuberville, Graham. Fiendish Thingy Nov 13 #4

Lol Polybius Nov 13 #7

Might have be 12 ... there's still the word 'teen' in 13 AZJonnie Nov 13 #13

It could be a whole nursery and it would still just take it to too close to call, at best. TheKentuckian Nov 14 #41

Graham, as in SC Graham? Not flippable. moonscape Nov 13 #17

Certainly Tillis in North Carolina Janbdwl72 Nov 14 #18

Long term we need to do a better job selling the Democratic agenda EdmondDantes_ Nov 13 #6

Those are not issues that moved this election Sundance1220 Nov 14 #25

That is also all true EdmondDantes_ Nov 14 #34

In my eyes Pete is out until he shows he can win a state wide office. TheKentuckian Nov 14 #42

Start taking down some talk show hosts. Initech Nov 13 #8

Which talk show hosts? (Honest question -- is AM radio still a thing?) Seeking Serenity Nov 13 #10

AM radio is still very much a thing. Initech Nov 14 #20

Well, I had no idea. I figured it would have died with the death of ol' Deaf-aids Seeking Serenity Nov 14 #37

2028 is the soonest we can realistically take back the Senate, barring a near collapse by 2026. nt kelly1mm Nov 13 #9

If the Democrats hold the Senate seats for all blue and swing states, I think that puts us at 52. Ace Rothstein Nov 13 #11

2026 bad guys must defend 20 seats vs. 13 for us. GreenWave Nov 13 #12

The party needs to identify JustAnotherGen Nov 14 #26

Most of the 20 are gimmies. TheKentuckian Nov 14 #43

I Hate This Fucking Country SoCalDavidS Nov 13 #14

Got a passport? Then just go. MineralMan Nov 14 #21

Tourist visas are easy to get. Resident visas, unless you're loaded, not as easy. Seeking Serenity Nov 14 #38

I'm not going anywhere. MineralMan Nov 14 #40

Current plans Zeitghost Nov 13 #15

I'm JustAnotherGen Nov 14 #27

Whatever is clever in my book. TheKentuckian Nov 14 #44

Well once they stop doing vile racist things Blue_Tires Nov 14 #45

And you think that's a winning strategy Zeitghost Nov 14 #46

How many people of color will you throw under the bus Blue_Tires Nov 14 #48

It's about messaging and priorities Zeitghost Nov 14 #49

Instead of chasing Trumper votes we'll never get Blue_Tires Nov 14 #51

it will only happen if people WAKE THE FUCK UP Skittles Nov 13 #16

Yup. Iggo Nov 14 #23

Post removed Post removed Nov 14 #19

Make Democratic voters care about winning as much as Republican voters do. Iggo Nov 14 #22

Better messaging. Don't be afraid to call Emile Nov 14 #24

Call out every crime. RhapsodyFav Nov 14 #28

I think calling out every single issue Zeitghost Nov 14 #31

Anyone charting Dem's Senate Wins over the last 40 years? bucolic_frolic Nov 14 #29

We are the party of big money now. Didn't you read? Seeking Serenity Nov 14 #39

Getting the democrat registered voters to vote. republianmushroom Nov 14 #30

Barring a total collapse in gop support, it could be a while DetroitLegalBeagle Nov 14 #32

We have a serious Senate problem and I am not sure what can be done dsc Nov 14 #35

That's bleak leftstreet Nov 14 #36

We need to run on economics pimpbot Nov 14 #50

Why? People don't even know how "the economy" works Blue_Tires Nov 15 #53

It's possible Beshear could run in Kentucky. tritsofme Nov 14 #47