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In reply to the discussion: they won because they lied. over, and over, and over. they built a whole ecosystem of lies. [View all]Moostache
(10,163 posts)These people are not ALL bad...only about 45% are truly sick and evil, but there is a mushy middle of 8-12% of the population that votes but does not understand policy, politics, consequences or anything else. They vote like its a high school student government election, a popularity contest or a chance to 'be on the winning team'.
The GOP has perfected the art of voter self-suppression by using their lies and media monster to brow beat this mushy middle group into submission and convince them to either vote against their own interests (many times by simply promising to hurt 'other people' worse than the harm coming to them) or depressing them into believing the elections don't matter and their vote is not their voice and its easier to sit it out...
We - THE PEOPLE - suck.
Sorry, but its true.
WE elected (or allowed to be elected by non-participation) a criminal scumbag to 'lead' this nation. A contemptuous man-baby of no intellect, no honesty, no compassion, no empathy and no actual value to humanity at all. A thug, a bully and possibly the most pathetic figure in human history (to have so much at his disposal and to find so little true friendship or enjoyment or fulfillment beyond petty desires for revenge on those who dare to tell it the truth he is NOTHING special at all, unless you wish to celebrate the worst elements of humanity in an effort to avoid real self-reflection and introspection.
The reality is Trump is a damaged, pathetic figure, wholly owned by billionaires and special interest and hate groups; and they allow him to be a pretend billionaire, live a life of undue deference and ceremony (which feeds the cretin's ego and controls him for their purposes) in exchange for the total destruction of the post-WWII economy, alliances and reality. We're going back alright...but its NOT to 1933 or 1914 its back to the 1870s and the advent of the industrial age in time to distort and warp the rapidly changing electronic age in much the same ways.
Child Labor?
Environmental anarchy?
Displacing indigenous peoples (or getting rid of worrisome unions and organizers)?
Strip mining national resources through government agencies?
Racism?
Homophobia?
Elderly being forced to die in poverty or inhumane conditions?
No equal rights for anyone not white, male and monied?
Welcome to Project 2025 America, which is really nothing more than the destruction of the New Deal and a reversion to the Robber-baron days of America past.
It will fail. Its tenets are stupidity writ large and doomed from an optimistic over-evaluation of the importance of the 'uber-man' of Ayn Rand's dystopian fever dreams. Its being championed and implemented by people that it is charitable to call sociopaths.
But make no mistake...this IS WHO "WE" ARE...it IS America in 2024. Lies may have gotten the ball over the goal line, but ignorance, celebrating money and profits over ALL else, and pride in being uneducated or unwilling to bother is the hallmark of the population. WE SUCK. Individually, there are many good people. Collectively? The world will deal with America at a terrible cost to all, but in the end, "WE" will lose and there is a coming reckoning that will toss the American Empire and its virulent proponents into the same historical dustbin alongside the Soviet Union, the Third Reich, the Empire of Japan, the Kymer Rouge, the Killing Fields of Cambodia, the Confederate States of America, the European monoarchies pre-WWI, on through the ages...the Greek city-states, the Roman empire, the Persian Empire, the dynasties of China and Ghengis Khan's marauding murderers....back to the Pharaohs of Egypt.
People suck, Americans are just the latest group of them to suck large scale and sign up for the inevitable 'find out' period of retribution and consequences. I truly believe that BILLIONS will die in the coming decade. That Trump will surrender the west to the powers of dictators and totalitarians than will manipulate him, laugh about their good luck and ultimately discard him like a used rubber when they are done fucking him. There are real human costs to what is coming. And Americans are to blame - specifically any of them that voted for Trump or simply chose to sit it out and not be bothered enough to make a vote at all.
Lies did not cause this catastrophe. They simply greased the skids and allowed evil men to push it into motion on those same skids.