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Moostache

(10,163 posts)
35. They won because America is a shitty place, filled with worse people.
Wed Nov 13, 2024, 11:57 AM
Nov 13

These people are not ALL bad...only about 45% are truly sick and evil, but there is a mushy middle of 8-12% of the population that votes but does not understand policy, politics, consequences or anything else. They vote like its a high school student government election, a popularity contest or a chance to 'be on the winning team'.

The GOP has perfected the art of voter self-suppression by using their lies and media monster to brow beat this mushy middle group into submission and convince them to either vote against their own interests (many times by simply promising to hurt 'other people' worse than the harm coming to them) or depressing them into believing the elections don't matter and their vote is not their voice and its easier to sit it out...

We - THE PEOPLE - suck.
Sorry, but its true.

WE elected (or allowed to be elected by non-participation) a criminal scumbag to 'lead' this nation. A contemptuous man-baby of no intellect, no honesty, no compassion, no empathy and no actual value to humanity at all. A thug, a bully and possibly the most pathetic figure in human history (to have so much at his disposal and to find so little true friendship or enjoyment or fulfillment beyond petty desires for revenge on those who dare to tell it the truth he is NOTHING special at all, unless you wish to celebrate the worst elements of humanity in an effort to avoid real self-reflection and introspection.

The reality is Trump is a damaged, pathetic figure, wholly owned by billionaires and special interest and hate groups; and they allow him to be a pretend billionaire, live a life of undue deference and ceremony (which feeds the cretin's ego and controls him for their purposes) in exchange for the total destruction of the post-WWII economy, alliances and reality. We're going back alright...but its NOT to 1933 or 1914 its back to the 1870s and the advent of the industrial age in time to distort and warp the rapidly changing electronic age in much the same ways.

Child Labor?
Environmental anarchy?
Displacing indigenous peoples (or getting rid of worrisome unions and organizers)?
Strip mining national resources through government agencies?
Racism?
Homophobia?
Elderly being forced to die in poverty or inhumane conditions?
No equal rights for anyone not white, male and monied?

Welcome to Project 2025 America, which is really nothing more than the destruction of the New Deal and a reversion to the Robber-baron days of America past.

It will fail. Its tenets are stupidity writ large and doomed from an optimistic over-evaluation of the importance of the 'uber-man' of Ayn Rand's dystopian fever dreams. Its being championed and implemented by people that it is charitable to call sociopaths.

But make no mistake...this IS WHO "WE" ARE...it IS America in 2024. Lies may have gotten the ball over the goal line, but ignorance, celebrating money and profits over ALL else, and pride in being uneducated or unwilling to bother is the hallmark of the population. WE SUCK. Individually, there are many good people. Collectively? The world will deal with America at a terrible cost to all, but in the end, "WE" will lose and there is a coming reckoning that will toss the American Empire and its virulent proponents into the same historical dustbin alongside the Soviet Union, the Third Reich, the Empire of Japan, the Kymer Rouge, the Killing Fields of Cambodia, the Confederate States of America, the European monoarchies pre-WWI, on through the ages...the Greek city-states, the Roman empire, the Persian Empire, the dynasties of China and Ghengis Khan's marauding murderers....back to the Pharaohs of Egypt.

People suck, Americans are just the latest group of them to suck large scale and sign up for the inevitable 'find out' period of retribution and consequences. I truly believe that BILLIONS will die in the coming decade. That Trump will surrender the west to the powers of dictators and totalitarians than will manipulate him, laugh about their good luck and ultimately discard him like a used rubber when they are done fucking him. There are real human costs to what is coming. And Americans are to blame - specifically any of them that voted for Trump or simply chose to sit it out and not be bothered enough to make a vote at all.

Lies did not cause this catastrophe. They simply greased the skids and allowed evil men to push it into motion on those same skids.

Yup, you get it gab13by13 Nov 13 #1
Propaganda bdamomma Nov 13 #28
And they built an amplifier to broadcast the lies: FOX News and AM Radio. bluesbassman Nov 13 #2
the thing about the rw media- mopinko Nov 13 #5
"Nice work, Bros." - Moloch (R) BoRaGard Nov 13 #3
FDR had "Happy Days Are Here Again" and no_hypocrisy Nov 13 #4
We still believe and rely on the goodness of people. cachukis Nov 13 #6
hopefully that illusion has been shattered. mopinko Nov 13 #8
Mostly from a mob perspective. Alone, the id shows cachukis Nov 13 #16
That's all Republicans do is lie. They are really Emile Nov 13 #7
and they'll get worse until we wise up. mopinko Nov 13 #10
That's not the only problem EarlG Nov 13 #9
salient point. that's the trouble w the truth. it's never simple, but we all wish it was. mopinko Nov 13 #13
it's a drug to them now. how do u get someone off drugs when they dont want to? mopinko Nov 13 #15
Yep agreed and it wont make a difference how well we do oldmanlynn Nov 13 #11
when ppl start getting hurt, we have to not shy away from telling them they brought it on themselves. mopinko Nov 13 #14
and markie Nov 13 #22
You see how they use the wealth Farmer-Rick Nov 13 #23
In this instance...that loud voice needs to be total silence. Stop tuning into cable news including msnbc which is PortTack Nov 13 #24
We needed to break up bdamomma Nov 13 #32
Well, this OP might win the prize for the most realistic set of reasons why this election was..... you chose! usaf-vet Nov 13 #12
That is exactly the case! And all this other malarkey about brown lady and the economy is more Clouds Passing Nov 13 #17
how much of it is imported now? mopinko Nov 13 #18
The reason authoritarianism is spreading so trendily is the gobbles media! Lies are addicting! Clouds Passing Nov 13 #19
This. yardwork Nov 13 #20
"The end of objectivity" krkaufman Nov 13 #21
"we left it up to the democrats" to fact check st ronnie. mopinko Nov 13 #25
Yes, they won because of the lies and their amplification on Fox News and other right wing media. Martin68 Nov 13 #26
Forget about any objective data from the johnnyfins Nov 13 #27
Trump Told 30,000 Lies His Last Term Mr.Bee Nov 13 #29
Time to use propaganda also Blue Full Moon Nov 13 #30
A web of lies to suppress enough votes to swing the election JCMach1 Nov 13 #31
Turns out we (DH and me) made a HUGE mistake in parenting Bettie Nov 13 #33
Trump got more press coverage than any other former President in history. lees1975 Nov 13 #34
More coverage then any Felon in history RANDYWILDMAN Nov 13 #36
They won because America is a shitty place, filled with worse people. Moostache Nov 13 #35
The fairness doctrine's loss Tesha Nov 13 #37
then we got citizens united. mopinko Nov 13 #38
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