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Bettie

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33. Turns out we (DH and me) made a HUGE mistake in parenting

Wed Nov 13, 2024, 11:53 AM

Nov 13

We taught our kids to be truthful.

When they stepped out of line, if they told the truth, they got a few questions "Do you know why what you did was wrong?" and they usually had a pretty good idea, so they got a "don't let it happen again" and we all went on along our way.

It almost never happened again.

If they lied, they got an actual punishment (not physical). So, they learned quickly to be truthful. "I'm disappointed in your choices" was enough to make them cry.

Now, I fear I've done them a disservice. My truthful, kind, gentle boys are now men (one is still 16), and they may not do well in the world that is being created now.

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they won because they lied. over, and over, and over. they built a whole ecosystem of lies. [View all] mopinko Nov 13 OP

Yup, you get it gab13by13 Nov 13 #1

Propaganda bdamomma Nov 13 #28

And they built an amplifier to broadcast the lies: FOX News and AM Radio. bluesbassman Nov 13 #2

the thing about the rw media- mopinko Nov 13 #5

"Nice work, Bros." - Moloch (R) BoRaGard Nov 13 #3

FDR had "Happy Days Are Here Again" and no_hypocrisy Nov 13 #4

We still believe and rely on the goodness of people. cachukis Nov 13 #6

hopefully that illusion has been shattered. mopinko Nov 13 #8

Mostly from a mob perspective. Alone, the id shows cachukis Nov 13 #16

That's all Republicans do is lie. They are really Emile Nov 13 #7

and they'll get worse until we wise up. mopinko Nov 13 #10

That's not the only problem EarlG Nov 13 #9

salient point. that's the trouble w the truth. it's never simple, but we all wish it was. mopinko Nov 13 #13

it's a drug to them now. how do u get someone off drugs when they dont want to? mopinko Nov 13 #15

Yep agreed and it wont make a difference how well we do oldmanlynn Nov 13 #11

when ppl start getting hurt, we have to not shy away from telling them they brought it on themselves. mopinko Nov 13 #14

and markie Nov 13 #22

You see how they use the wealth Farmer-Rick Nov 13 #23

In this instance...that loud voice needs to be total silence. Stop tuning into cable news including msnbc which is PortTack Nov 13 #24

We needed to break up bdamomma Nov 13 #32

Well, this OP might win the prize for the most realistic set of reasons why this election was..... you chose! usaf-vet Nov 13 #12

That is exactly the case! And all this other malarkey about brown lady and the economy is more Clouds Passing Nov 13 #17

how much of it is imported now? mopinko Nov 13 #18

The reason authoritarianism is spreading so trendily is the gobbles media! Lies are addicting! Clouds Passing Nov 13 #19

This. yardwork Nov 13 #20

"The end of objectivity" krkaufman Nov 13 #21

"we left it up to the democrats" to fact check st ronnie. mopinko Nov 13 #25

Yes, they won because of the lies and their amplification on Fox News and other right wing media. Martin68 Nov 13 #26

Forget about any objective data from the johnnyfins Nov 13 #27

Trump Told 30,000 Lies His Last Term Mr.Bee Nov 13 #29

Time to use propaganda also Blue Full Moon Nov 13 #30

A web of lies to suppress enough votes to swing the election JCMach1 Nov 13 #31

Turns out we (DH and me) made a HUGE mistake in parenting Bettie Nov 13 #33

Trump got more press coverage than any other former President in history. lees1975 Nov 13 #34

More coverage then any Felon in history RANDYWILDMAN Nov 13 #36

They won because America is a shitty place, filled with worse people. Moostache Nov 13 #35

The fairness doctrine's loss Tesha Nov 13 #37

then we got citizens united. mopinko Nov 13 #38