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LisaM

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22. This is true of Ghislaine Maxwell, too.

Fri Nov 3, 2023, 05:38 PM

Nov 2023

If you read stories about her childhood, you'll be horrified. Does it excuse her? No, but it offers some level of explanation.

This kind of behavior creates cycles and society should focus on breaking those cycles.

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I loathe Ivanka. But hear this: NO CHILD asks to be incested by her daddy. Just stop that. [View all] Hekate Nov 2023 OP

Thank you - the "jokes" about this are disgusting obamanut2012 Nov 2023 #1

Thanks for understanding Hekate Nov 2023 #5

They are really disgusting obamanut2012 Nov 2023 #16

You did NOT go on too long! Moosepoop Nov 2023 #63

Thanks Hekate Nov 2023 #64

You didn't go on too long Hekate. Because she is such a detestable person and a now grown Maru Kitteh Nov 2023 #67

Yes he did Hekate Nov 2023 #69

100%. 50 Shades Of Blue Nov 2023 #2

Good post. Elessar Zappa Nov 2023 #3

K&R WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2023 #4

Sadly, that seems to be the case Hekate Nov 2023 #6

DURec leftstreet Nov 2023 #7

Don Jr and Ivanka are abused children for sure. milestogo Nov 2023 #8

There's another from their early childhood. Can't recall the observer who told the tale... Hekate Nov 2023 #10

It seems very likely that Ivanka was sexually molested, and the fact that and *the way* Ocelot II Nov 2023 #9

You raise all good points. The whole family is sick. Hekate Nov 2023 #13

I love this Cherokee100 Nov 2023 #21

I think Barron will be better off than the 3 "children". flying_wahini Nov 2023 #77

Melania doesn't seem like a good person Dorian Gray Nov 2023 #137

I don't foresee a pleasant end for Barron ExWhoDoesntCare Nov 2023 #87

I don't know how anybody could grow up to be normal in that family. Ocelot II Nov 2023 #89

Post removed Post removed Nov 2023 #126

This. K&R n/t ms liberty Nov 2023 #11

I feel that way about all the kids. They are all leftyladyfrommo Nov 2023 #12

Thank you for this excellent post Easterncedar Nov 2023 #14

Thank you for that compassionate and most thoughtful niyad Nov 2023 #15

Thanks for reading & comprehending Hekate Nov 2023 #17

I do believe the writer who was forcibly kissed by Trump was touring Bev54 Nov 2023 #18

Shows a pattern of behavior. The one I read about was sent out to Trump Tower when Barron Hekate Nov 2023 #36

I read the same story only it was Mar a Lago Bev54 Nov 2023 #57

I think this is just a thing he does, so don't doubt your version exists as well... Hekate Nov 2023 #58

Thankfully I haven't seen any of these posts,,,, KarenS Nov 2023 #19

I agree with this assessment Skittles Nov 2023 #20

This is true of Ghislaine Maxwell, too. LisaM Nov 2023 #22

She procured children for sex trafficking MyMission Nov 2023 #24

I agree that it's impossible to excuse her. LisaM Nov 2023 #27

As far as I can tell, children often don't "tell" for at least 20 years. Often there's a precipitating event Hekate Nov 2023 #60

Sometimes a younger sibling is the catalyst. ShazzieB Nov 2023 #66

I had a conversation with a young woman who had a similar story about herself & her sister Hekate Nov 2023 #70

It's not that they "don't tell", my dad beat me and my mother for years every Thursday night. I didn't tell ... marble falls Nov 2023 #125

they are a crime family Layzeebeaver Nov 2023 #23

I had an uncle who tried to abuse me when I was a teen. tavernier Nov 2023 #25

tavernier......... Upthevibe Nov 2023 #39

Thank you, my friend. tavernier Nov 2023 #45

Both you and your cousin (and how many others) were damaged by this Hekate Nov 2023 #98

Thanks for this redqueen Nov 2023 #26

I have been sure for years Jilly_in_VA Nov 2023 #28

DU can be remarkably inconsistent in these issues. NCIndie Nov 2023 #29

NCIndie...... Upthevibe Nov 2023 #42

Indie is my preference in music. NCIndie Nov 2023 #49

who is this WE Skittles Nov 2023 #44

Agreed and I would actually like to see the posts edisdead Nov 2023 #46

Wait, what? NCIndie Nov 2023 #50

I'm saying *MOST* DUers don't joke about child abuse Skittles Nov 2023 #51

Clearly. NCIndie Nov 2023 #53

Wait, what? You're stirring the pot for no reason Scrivener7 Nov 2023 #129

So, two weeks after this little conversation.... NCIndie Nov 2023 #133

The conversation goes back to the top of the Scrivener7 Nov 2023 #134

Muck-raker making accusations of pot stirring. NCIndie Nov 2023 #135

Pot stirrer unable to defend why they Scrivener7 Nov 2023 #138

But "small penis" jokes are apparently still okay .... SarcasticSatyr Nov 2023 #30

That is specifically targeted at an adult male whose misogyny is undisputed... Hekate Nov 2023 #38

Sometimes they are edisdead Nov 2023 #47

Why are you making this about that and not the OP? Go make your own OP obamanut2012 Nov 2023 #122

I've heard no such stories. Aussie105 Nov 2023 #31

Then you haven't been paying attention, Aussie105. pnwmom Nov 2023 #33

TYVM, pnwmom Hekate Nov 2023 #41

You're welcome, Hekate. Thank you for your OP! nt pnwmom Nov 2023 #55

I didn't think I could possibly loathe tfg any more Bundbuster Nov 2023 #52

Sometimes, you can tell without the witness statements ExWhoDoesntCare Nov 2023 #88

excellent compilation, some of which was new to me LymphocyteLover Nov 2023 #78

In this quote, Trump basically admits to being a pedophile. yardwork Nov 2023 #79

I had forgotten the "piece of ass" comment. niyad Nov 2023 #132

So, because you haven't seen these posts you jump on the OP? yardwork Nov 2023 #75

This message was self-deleted by its author pnwmom Nov 2023 #84

Might want to look again. TwilightZone Nov 2023 #109

Thanks! pnwmom Nov 2023 #110

LOL WHAT -- it is allllll over the internet, including allll over DU obamanut2012 Nov 2023 #123

We have been discussing this since 2015. All the pictures. His comments about looking at niyad Nov 2023 #131

The Pressure of Potential Inheritance in Weathy Families can be a very corrupting influence. PurgedVoter Nov 2023 #32

Way back during the Roxanne Pulitzer brouhaha ExWhoDoesntCare Nov 2023 #90

Trump thought of himself as Pygmalion and created Ivanka as his Galatea, no_hypocrisy Nov 2023 #34

Malignant narcissists never see their children as ExWhoDoesntCare Nov 2023 #91

I've often wondered if one of the main things that crushed her soul Warpy Nov 2023 #35

100% kevinore Nov 2023 #37

It's a generational thing... BlueIdaho Nov 2023 #40

This has probably been a family issue going back a generation or two before Trump. madinmaryland Nov 2023 #43

Who's joking? Orange Bastard is an incestuous pedophile, rapist scumbag. He is a trash human. Piss on that turd. SoFlaBro Nov 2023 #48

Thank you so much for this. MorbidButterflyTat Nov 2023 #54

Thank You..I agree. whathehell Nov 2023 #56

I dislike her about as much as I do her father ExWhoDoesntCare Nov 2023 #92

I think you've misunderstood.. whathehell Nov 2023 #118

knew a girl in school who told about being molested by family. Noticed how she would please men in every way. Probably demigoddess Nov 2023 #59

Recommended. H2O Man Nov 2023 #61

🌺 Hekate Nov 2023 #71

❤️ ✿❧🌿❧✿ ❤️ Lucinda Nov 2023 #62

I like the way you both COL Mustard Nov 2023 #65

So do you think Ivanka children are safe? Farmer-Rick Nov 2023 #68

I worry about Junior's children. Grasswire2 Nov 2023 #127

Oh jeez, I never thought about that Farmer-Rick Nov 2023 #130

i believe that the abuse went on in the white house as well...some of the photos dawn5651 Nov 2023 #72

Thank you for this thread. MineralMan Nov 2023 #73

Be a better person. Thanks for posting this. Hope it helps. twodogsbarking Nov 2023 #74

A sad creation in many ways. czarjak Nov 2023 #76

Saying he committed incest with Ivanka is speculation Recycle_Guru Nov 2023 #80

trump is a sexual predator Bayard Nov 2023 #81

Spot on! PJMcK Nov 2023 #82

Spot on! PJMcK Nov 2023 #83

Thank you, Hekate. You are brave w/a deep understanding of this victimization. AnotherMother4Peace Nov 2023 #85

Thank you, Hekate. debm55 Nov 2023 #86

I don't dwell on the sexual stuff, Mr.Bill Nov 2023 #93

The photos have been published for 30 years, & were put on the internet when he ran for prez... Hekate Nov 2023 #96

I don't need your or anyoone else's opinion to know how my mind is doing. Mr.Bill Nov 2023 #99

Mr. Bill "doesn't dwell on the sexual stuff," willamette Nov 2023 #119

just the face paint willamette Nov 2023 #120

I didn't edit anything out of my posts in this thread. Mr.Bill Nov 2023 #124

Delete FHRRK Nov 2023 #94

Nasty Hekate Nov 2023 #97

Delete FHRRK Nov 2023 #100

Wonderful post wryter2000 Nov 2023 #95

Maybe people will think twice before posting "Daddy touch me in our secret place" or... Hekate Nov 2023 #102

So true claudette Nov 2023 #101

Do you know for a fact he abused her? prodigitalson Nov 2023 #103

Try reading my OP in full Hekate Nov 2023 #104

give me the condenced version prodigitalson Nov 2023 #107

Nope Hekate Nov 2023 #108

Why are you commenting if you didn't even read the OP? obamanut2012 Nov 2023 #121

Look at the pictures --he abused her debm55 Nov 2023 #105

the pictures are creepy and inapropriate. prodigitalson Nov 2023 #106

Until Ivanka feels the need to publicly reveal all the things that happened in her childhood Aussie105 Nov 2023 #111

As someone upthread said to you: you haven't been paying attention Hekate Nov 2023 #112

I was sexually abused by my grandmother when I was a child. Every Saturday night, the three girl cousins were given a debm55 Nov 2023 #113

🌺 Hekate Nov 2023 #114

I am so sorry. TSExile Nov 2023 #136

Your piece is well-worded and makes many good, sharp points. MrsCheaplaugh Nov 2023 #115

Thank you Hekate Nov 2023 #116

🌺 Hekate Nov 2023 #117

read this analysis of Ivanka's and DJT's body language at Churchill's death bed visit. Grasswire2 Nov 2023 #128