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smirkymonkey

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Tue Sep 7, 2021, 05:12 PM

Sep 2021

Which is why we need free or very low cost higher education in this country, like what many European countries have. We have already seen what the fruits of anti-intellectualism are in this nation.

Why must education always be about getting a "job" instead of simply expanding one's mind and bettering oneself?

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A generation of American men give up on college [View all] Ex Lurker Sep 2021 OP

Considering we need more people in the trades this could be good Calculating Sep 2021 #1

If that's where they're going it would be good. Ex Lurker Sep 2021 #2

People say that but it is not really true...Manufacturing created many trade jobs and without Demsrule86 Sep 2021 #4

There is a shortage of plumbers. Elessar Zappa Sep 2021 #8

Plumbing is hard work, that may be the problem. Chainfire Sep 2021 #36

So my nephew went to college for a year Ex Lurker Sep 2021 #40

Did he spend his childhood years playing video games more than playing outside ? JI7 Sep 2021 #44

His mom (my relative) tried to restrict that as much as possible Ex Lurker Sep 2021 #46

It depends what type of manufacturing you do. My husband is in manufacturing and they are busy Luciferous Sep 2021 #43

Aren't trades requiring diplomas of some sort though? Wingus Dingus Sep 2021 #5

Not a college degree. carpetbagger Sep 2021 #19

I guess I still see that as "college" of some sort. Wingus Dingus Sep 2021 #20

I do too, but... carpetbagger Sep 2021 #32

No. And you don't have to go to trade school at all; getting on as an apprentice in a union and WhiskeyGrinder Sep 2021 #22

They do. The technical college system in my state requires Iris Sep 2021 #29

I know it's probably different in every state, as far as requirements go-- Wingus Dingus Sep 2021 #31

Exactly Iris Sep 2021 #41

Trades are a great option madville Sep 2021 #10

Even two year/community colleges? What do these young men Wingus Dingus Sep 2021 #3

Some will go later in life. Demsrule86 Sep 2021 #7

It's like the State jobs in my area madville Sep 2021 #14

I'm not saying everyone needs college but post high school training for a diploma Wingus Dingus Sep 2021 #17

Hoping for UBI ? MichMan Sep 2021 #9

Ha, my two adult millennial sons are secretly hoping for it too. Wingus Dingus Sep 2021 #16

I don't think this is necessarily a bad thing USAFRetired_Liberal Sep 2021 #6

Yeah, they've been over-selling the need for college for many years... Wounded Bear Sep 2021 #11

People have been looking down on those jobs for decades in favor of office paperwork jobs MichMan Sep 2021 #13

Yep, my husband started working as a machinist years ago and got so much crap Luciferous Sep 2021 #42

There has been very little change in over the last decade Klaralven Sep 2021 #12

40% is not giving up entirely treestar Sep 2021 #15

OK, maybe it's because I can't get past paywall, but aren't Wingus Dingus Sep 2021 #18

An educated citizenry is a cornerstone of a successful democracy. Irish_Dem Sep 2021 #21

I see a lot of ignorance on display from those who are supposedly "educated" MichMan Sep 2021 #23

Most of them know better, they are just using propaganda for the ignorant masses. Irish_Dem Sep 2021 #25

+1000 smirkymonkey Sep 2021 #38

Great! CrackityJones75 Sep 2021 #24

If women are having babies all the time, they will find it harder to go to college. Irish_Dem Sep 2021 #26

my thoughts exactly CrackityJones75 Sep 2021 #27

They're the future lawmakers lame54 Sep 2021 #37

Some form of learning beyond high school is needed these days. Dawson Leery Sep 2021 #28

Some will have careers in rap music or be drafted by a professional sports team. milestogo Sep 2021 #30

The country needs plumbers and electricians for sure, you ever have to find one when you need one? Shanti Shanti Shanti Sep 2021 #33

I ended up on full disability at the age of 52. Kaleva Sep 2021 #35

watched carpet installers at work, talk about needing strong knees!! Demovictory9 Sep 2021 #45

I have 3 brothers who, with no college, just a HS diploma, make 6 figures annually each. Kaleva Sep 2021 #34

You don't need college to be successful and learning doesn't start or stop based Vinca Sep 2021 #39