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BrightKnight

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22. Ventilators run in non invasive CPAP or BiPAP modes and some can't tolerate ventilator that long

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 12:23 PM

Mar 2020

A doctor in Italy was saying that noninvasive might be better for older and more more complex cases. Apparently, patients they are treating for this have to be on the machine for a couple of weeks and they cause a lot of inflammation that some older and sicker patients can't Tolerate.

IDK, but I suspect that they are using non-invasive if they can.

Also, part of the problem might be with displaying data and modifying settings in real time. Most off the shelf CPAP machines collect a ton of data but they don’t display it in real time. Also, it is difficult to change the setting because it requires a prescription.

I have two spare multiple patient rated CPAP machines that I donate immediately if they were asking for them. I’m sure many would but dedicated CPAP, APAP, BiPAP machines are not that scarce.

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CPAP machines. [View all] Tracer Mar 2020 OP

I know hospitals have forced air machines Phoenix61 Mar 2020 #1

Interesting thought, good question, thinking outside the box... magicarpet Mar 2020 #2

How to get idea to attention of people to try it? Throck Mar 2020 #3

I have one and I believe it can be modified to do just that Jarqui Mar 2020 #8

It's not a matter to of breathing better Politicub Mar 2020 #4

Well said.... FarPoint Mar 2020 #7

Exactly. CPAPs force air into the throat to keep the airway open. They don't breathe. stopbush Mar 2020 #16

Italy tried it, so did France Recursion Mar 2020 #5

I'm on CPAP and this could possibly work donkeypoofed Mar 2020 #6

Bipap would probably be better ornotna Mar 2020 #9

I have a VPAP machine under my bed. Man I hated using that thing. The masks always hurt or were GreenPartyVoter Mar 2020 #13

Not really. NutmegYankee Mar 2020 #10

Perhaps useful on some cases earlier in the process where lung damage is not advanced. Wounded Bear Mar 2020 #11

You need to be able to breathe to use a CPAP Politicub Mar 2020 #14

Understand they are not suitable for advanced stages... Wounded Bear Mar 2020 #15

It would make breathing more difficult for someone Politicub Mar 2020 #18

I think they would help those who aren't as serious. roamer65 Mar 2020 #12

Whatever you do, don't let tRump get the idea that a $1000 CPAP machine stopbush Mar 2020 #17

Here is an Article I found on this. Seems legit, but who knows. mackdaddy Mar 2020 #19

CPAP Sgent Mar 2020 #20

A standard CPAP, APAP, or BiPap would not help. LudwigPastorius Mar 2020 #21

Ventilators run in non invasive CPAP or BiPAP modes and some can't tolerate ventilator that long BrightKnight Mar 2020 #22

The FDA released Ventilator Supply Mitigation Guidance this past weekend Best_man23 Mar 2020 #23