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In reply to the discussion: Japanese flu drug 'clearly effective' in treating coronavirus, says China. From The Guardian... [View all]thesquanderer
(12,875 posts)32. People here seem to be overly optimistic about this. It would not make the problem go away.
Of course, it's very significant, but as the article says:
Patients who were given the medicine in Shenzhen turned negative for the virus after a median of four days after becoming positive, compared with a median of 11 days for those who were not treated with the drug, public broadcaster NHK said.
Meaning: The people who would get better anyway (which is most people) get better sooner. That's helpful, but doesn't directly address either lethality or spread. Though it would allow people to end their quarantines sooner.
In addition, X-rays confirmed improvements in lung condition in about 91% of the patients who were treated with favipiravir, compared to 62% or those without the drug.
I think this is more important, but it is still only a limited treatment, since these numbers indicate that 29% of those who experience lung impairment are still not helped by this drug. 62% see these improvements even without the drug (meaning 38% don't); with the drug only 9% don't (the difference between 100% and 91%); so compared to the current situation, the drug is helping the difference between the 38% and the 9%, which is 29%.
Also worth noting:
Doctors in Japan are using the same drug in clinical studies on coronavirus patients with mild to moderate symptoms... {it is} not as effective in people with more severe symptoms.
but if testing becomes easily and widely available, hopefully it is more often caught before symptoms become severe.
I think this is great, I just caution people about thinking a full cure looks to be around the corner based on this info.
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Japanese flu drug 'clearly effective' in treating coronavirus, says China. From The Guardian... [View all]
abqtommy
Mar 2020
OP
Give it to us for free, even though we have a president that was plotting to hold you hostage with
brewens
Mar 2020
#1
I'd be willing to pay a fair market price but you know tRUMP has to get his cut...
abqtommy
Mar 2020
#2
We have a model for this, from the HIV pandemic. Need to shortcut the process.
lagomorph777
Mar 2020
#15
spread the rumor it's a liberal plot, turns people into zombies - half the trumpers will refuse it
certainot
Mar 2020
#26
It was already being looked at and there is data for use in Rift Valley Fever--a zoonotic viral
hlthe2b
Mar 2020
#4
This seems huge. Wonder how big their stockpile is, and when they can ramp it up?
lostnfound
Mar 2020
#8
SO don't let him have any. The country needs to rise up if he pulls any more shit like that.
lagomorph777
Mar 2020
#16
They will pay. The Grovelers Of Putin will be cast out like lepers (the way they'd treat lepers).
lagomorph777
Mar 2020
#18
China stifled their whistle-blower in the early days (he eventually died of the bug)
FiveGoodMen
Mar 2020
#46
People here seem to be overly optimistic about this. It would not make the problem go away.
thesquanderer
Mar 2020
#32
How does someone turn 'Negative" after they tested positive? I thought they tested
Maraya1969
Mar 2020
#35