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TimeSnowDemos

(476 posts)
7. The 2nd Amendment only makes sense in one way
Mon May 21, 2018, 07:34 AM
May 2018

A few bits of baseline info

- guns as tools were ubiquitous at the time it was written, there was no notion that they would be banned, as they were necessary for a variety of reasons

- the Founding Fathers were obsessed with the idea that a coup could destroy their experiment. The main source of that fear was the idea of the military overthrowing the government, as had happened in other places

Now, in that context the 2nd Amendment is pretty clearly not about self-defense (that notion is relatively modern) but about creating state level militias that would not have the power to overthrow the government.

This is also why the US was deliberately founded w/o a standing army, to prevent coups.

Once the US got a standing army, the 2nd Amendment should've been scrapped, as the point of militias was to prevent that.

Decades of court decisions backed this up, but after two generations of propaganda and political court nominations, the USSC decided to pretend history didn't matter and redefined the 2nd Amendment to please gun manufacturers.

It's a meaningless relic at this point and should be trashed.

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This has me curious... LuckyCharms May 2018 #1
No I can't - that is the reason I am asking if a difference exists. patricia92243 May 2018 #4
OK, thanks. The reason I ask is because... LuckyCharms May 2018 #6
The actual, unedited text was Blues Heron May 2018 #2
He's a picture of the 2nd amendment in the original document... PoliticAverse May 2018 #3
Thanks. I don't know why I didn't see this when I tried to google it. It points out that the patricia92243 May 2018 #11
There are high resolution photos from National Archives and supposedly official transcripts. Hoyt May 2018 #5
I'm appaled that it is in such poor shape. There are a lot older documents that are in good patricia92243 May 2018 #10
The 2nd Amendment only makes sense in one way TimeSnowDemos May 2018 #7
Alternatively... aikoaiko May 2018 #12
ok so TimeSnowDemos May 2018 #13
The second and third clauses seem subordinate BaileyBill May 2018 #8
How is Meatloaf's 'Id Do Anything for Love' like the 2nd Amendment? HAB911 May 2018 #9
No matter how it's sliced and diced, the term "well regulated" is still in there. Buns_of_Fire May 2018 #14
The 2A is not an obstacle to strict gun control hack89 May 2018 #15
Yes! Guns should have the same requirements as owning and driving a car - registration of patricia92243 May 2018 #17
Arguments based on the punctuation are misguided DavidDvorkin May 2018 #16
There is also the fact that the copies were hand mercuryblues May 2018 #18
Good point. DavidDvorkin May 2018 #19
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