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NurseJackie

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442. Exactly! The post you're responding to is echoing a common (but flawed) theme...

Mon Apr 9, 2018, 11:12 AM

Apr 2018

... that is intended to silence critics ("stop saying that or we're going to lose and it will be all your fault'')

The reality is this: as fun as DU is... it's really not a politically influential website. It's a gathering place for the regular active posters (what do you guess... maybe 500 active regular posters... if that) to discuss, debate, argue, commiserate, etc.

This is definitely NOT a newsmaking or policy-influencing site. It's a "clearing house" for an aggregate collection of news stories (written by OTHERS) but it's not a headline-grabbing site with it's own scoops and investigative reporting.

Don't get me wrong, I definitely enjoy coming here... but it really serves no good purpose for anyone to exaggerate about DU's political importance in an effort to coerce people or silence people.

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Bernie Sanders is nothing but a heckler [View all] maxrandb Apr 2018 OP

Yep! ALL HAT and no cattle! democratisphere Apr 2018 #1

The term fits Gothmog Apr 2018 #37

Why are there 2 of these posts posted by the same person? Farmer-Rick Apr 2018 #139

Why are there 2 of these post, posted by he same person? Farmer-Rick Apr 2018 #143

An old term...haven't heard that in a while. Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #535

It is also an amusing blog Gothmog Apr 2018 #560

Haha...great...thanks. Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #598

He was mostly dismissed as a crank long ago Renew Deal Apr 2018 #2

This is the problem. sarah FAILIN Apr 2018 #3

I choose to applaud your post. Thank you. Trust Buster Apr 2018 #36

Correct. Amimnoch Apr 2018 #228

Nailed it! NastyRiffraff Apr 2018 #562

Since he is not a Democrat it should not be a violation. LiberalFighter Apr 2018 #688

So, if I wanted to find out what his major legislative accomplishments were, where would I look? NurseJackie Apr 2018 #12

The real hard core progressives, left, have been critical of him for a very long time Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #111

That's a tough one. fleabiscuit Apr 2018 #293

Thank you for looking Gothmog Apr 2018 #345

+1000 smirkymonkey Apr 2018 #98

Post removed Post removed Apr 2018 #185

Many people agree with your observations... NurseJackie Apr 2018 #214

Considering he is the most popular politician in the country this is simply off base. Quixote1818 Apr 2018 #362

Keep saying he's the most popular politician NastyRiffraff Apr 2018 #564

Bernie bash thread #1,429... borrrrriiiiing!! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #4

WAKEUP! democratisphere Apr 2018 #5

haha sorry... it's a rehash of the same old crap. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #292

Ya mean like Bernie's constant bashing of the Democratic party? Adrahil Apr 2018 #420

But Democrat-bashing thread #3,000,000,000,000,000 is great! betsuni Apr 2018 #8

Yep, that is just criticism which is always good treestar Apr 2018 #87

It's "constructive criticism" then mcar Apr 2018 #140

Nobody is doing that. NurseJackie Apr 2018 #10

Yeah, what happened to all the "holding feet to the fire"? betsuni Apr 2018 #15

+1 puts it well treestar Apr 2018 #90

Don't think Bernie needs much improving, he's ONLY the #1 Democratic presidential hopeful for 2020 InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #294

Who's Aaron Blake? nt fleabiscuit Apr 2018 #301

Mr. Garvey will explain it to you. spooky3 Apr 2018 #347

You done messed up A Ron! lol fleabiscuit Apr 2018 #359

I do feel empowered to make my own list now. fleabiscuit Apr 2018 #361

:-) spooky3 Apr 2018 #363

LOL NurseJackie Apr 2018 #302

That poll is based solely on name recognition Gothmog Apr 2018 #346

He will be almost 80 years old. He won't win a primary. But the damage he will inflict by even Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #522

So whom shall we coronate? InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #580

We should have some fresh candidates who are not almost 80 years old and who did not have Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #595

In a democracy, any & all credible candidates should be welcome to throw their hat into the ring... InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #601

He is not a Democrat and has no right to get the Democratic nomination. Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #602

Why would you "shut down" Bernie, who's been named the #1 Democratic presidential hopeful for 2020? InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #606

Yes, if he runs, we lose period. but if he runs as a Democrat and spends his time bashing the party Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #610

I respect your opinion Dems, but I can't believe you think Bernie running as an Independent InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #612

I agree with Dems EffieBlack Apr 2018 #614

Ralph Nader didn't suck up resources or cause confusion... InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #615

And you think that allowing Sanders to run as a Democrat would avoid that scenario? EffieBlack Apr 2018 #616

Yes. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #617

Wow. Ok. EffieBlack Apr 2018 #618

I would like to also add this unreasonable hatred of corporations in the age of United is foolish. Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #634

It's called NOT FOR SALE, not hatred of corporations; I expressed not one iota of hatred... InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #640

First of all, Obama self- funded as well..Sen Sanders can raise the money...or at least he Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #673

A thread about Assad gassing civilians... SMC22307 Apr 2018 #14

Whataboutism betsuni Apr 2018 #19

not G_j Apr 2018 #39

Nope. SMC22307 Apr 2018 #46

Yes. betsuni Apr 2018 #54

In a way, it reminds me of... NurseJackie Apr 2018 #104

Yep Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #112

Huh? Reality check: Who's doing the heckling with this OP? KPN Apr 2018 #161

No. SMC22307 Apr 2018 #110

Adorable. NurseJackie Apr 2018 #186

snide remark duly noted G_j Apr 2018 #209

It's a quote... NurseJackie Apr 2018 #212

Havent the slightest idea what you are talking about G_j Apr 2018 #218

Obviously. NurseJackie Apr 2018 #222

Im obviously G_j Apr 2018 #226

There's plenty of non sequiturs to go around. nt fleabiscuit Apr 2018 #299

If it isn't whataboutism, then it is deflection. TexasTowelie Apr 2018 #197

This! G_j Apr 2018 #20

It is sad. Bernie was right about not invading Iraq... SMC22307 Apr 2018 #76

I cant imagine what it would have been like G_j Apr 2018 #100

Thanks for mentioning that: "nobody has been held accountable for the lies and war crimes." SMC22307 Apr 2018 #116

It's outrageous when you stop to really think about it. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #300

That's one of many words for it. So tonight I'm watching the news... SMC22307 Apr 2018 #499

Bernie's right about a lot of things...splains why so many Democrats have been adopting InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #297

Everyone is going to expect tax returns. nt fleabiscuit Apr 2018 #308

Myself included! I hope Bernie discloses at LEAST the last 5 years of his tax returns... InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #312

That would be only a year before he ran in 16...at least 10 years. Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #524

Agree 100%. MrsCoffee Apr 2018 #543

10 years seems excessive. The Dems' proposed bill requires disclosure of only 3 yrs of tax returns. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #586

I don't understand the problem. MrsCoffee Apr 2018 #587

I agree with the judgment of Congressional Democrats and support their proposal... seems reasonable. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #588

Lol. MrsCoffee Apr 2018 #589

I think that is fair. I think all candidates need to do this but I don't suppose we can make Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #600

If a post like this was written about Hillary mountain grammy Apr 2018 #44

There have been dozens of such posts written about both Clintons...and other Democrats. Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #49

"Hillary Clinton is nothing but a heckler" DLevine Apr 2018 #56

Agree. mountain grammy Apr 2018 #60

I could care a less...she has been called worse. She is a private citizen...not running for anything Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #65

I am also a life-long Democrat. DLevine Apr 2018 #70

"these Bernie-bashing threads" -- Nobody is doing that. NurseJackie Apr 2018 #79

Thank you NurseJackie MaryMagdaline Apr 2018 #114

+1000! mcar Apr 2018 #148

Exactly! Its like someone wanting your house R B Garr Apr 2018 #175

Yep! That type of nitpicking is what a prospective buyer and their realtor does... NurseJackie Apr 2018 #394

Agreed LiberalFighter Apr 2018 #689

This Ferrets are Cool Apr 2018 #82

"Richest 1% on target to own two-thirds of all weath by 2030" SMC22307 Apr 2018 #146

"Or is your hatred blinding you"? I'd say that's a yes. SammyWinstonJack Apr 2018 #180

And what has Bernie *done* about this? dansolo Apr 2018 #238

Democratic leadership feels so *trashed* by Sanders that it appointed him to an outreach position. SMC22307 Apr 2018 #270

To me, this looks to be a "consolation prize" appointment. I think they might have been hoping... NurseJackie Apr 2018 #467

And who are these "third way ... wall street Dems" who want to "shred the social safety net"?? NurseJackie Apr 2018 #480

Too bad the left did't have Obama's back in 10...and helped give the purse strings Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #526

+1,000,000!!! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #310

These thread arise when Sen. Sanders bashes Democrats as he did at the MLK event. Sen. Sanders who Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #525

No Dems, it's a rush to defend him from UNFAIR criticism... For example, if Bernie InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #323

Yup. shanny Apr 2018 #69

... mcar Apr 2018 #149

I LOLd too R B Garr Apr 2018 #198

Ha! NurseJackie Apr 2018 #219

+1 fleabiscuit Apr 2018 #315

Or maybe try joining the party instead just constantly bashing it. He just said our last 15 years... brush Apr 2018 #264

The old saying "no good deed goes unpunished" comes to mind. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #318

Really? sheshe2 Apr 2018 #341

It is constructive, it tells Bernie he is not accomplishing treestar Apr 2018 #92

The hell he isn't. SMC22307 Apr 2018 #169

I don't think Bernie has made any inroads in Texas treestar Apr 2018 #171

Then you didn't listen to the Texas townhall participants. SMC22307 Apr 2018 #182

I have been to town halls in Texas Gothmog Apr 2018 #400

Back to reality. He was in Texas to promote his Our Revolution. R B Garr Apr 2018 #692

Really? I live in Texas and have not seen this Gothmog Apr 2018 #353

Absolutely. KTM Apr 2018 #106

Right on! Most of these anti-Bernie comments are not even remotely close to constructive criticism. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #307

It wouldn't be true.. Hillary is not a Cha Apr 2018 #331

I thought the same thing. LisaM Apr 2018 #374

The reason why there are no posts about Hillary all american girl Apr 2018 #642

No. SMC22307 Apr 2018 #77

He is not a victim...but I invite you to pull those posts that bash the Clintons JCanete Apr 2018 #456

How about a site that lists of his major legislative accomplishments instead? NurseJackie Apr 2018 #470

Do you want one that lists all democratic accomplishments, or just the ones that paint us in a good JCanete Apr 2018 #481

Well, what I'm hearing is a lot of excuse-making. NurseJackie Apr 2018 #496

and money doesn't have an influence on politics...you certainly can't see its impact... JCanete Apr 2018 #509

Changing the subject and moving the goalposts. Yeah... NurseJackie Apr 2018 #514

I don't think I did that at all, but I do appreciate that we aren't getting anywhere, so best of JCanete Apr 2018 #515

So, you're saying that until Bernie has "big corrupt money" he won't accomplish anything? ehrnst Apr 2018 #554

no, I wasn't saying that. I don't know where you got that from. I do mean that rarely will it be JCanete Apr 2018 #558

Strawman.... ehrnst Apr 2018 #561

Sadly though, money is itself a corruption. Arguably even at the small donor level, except that JCanete Apr 2018 #566

Sadly, legislation is a team effort. If one distains teamwork, or views **any** ehrnst Apr 2018 #570

I don't think that is what we've seen, but I think we can recognize certain behaviors JCanete Apr 2018 #573

I think that's exactly what we've seen. (nt) ehrnst Apr 2018 #581

Why did sanders campaign on the concept of a magical voter revolution? Gothmog Apr 2018 #633

Do you want a list of JPR posts attacking clinton? Gothmog Apr 2018 #477

no I don't. why would I give a shit? Why does that have anything to do with DU? You don't think JCanete Apr 2018 #482

You seem to claim that Sanders supporters are all saints and never attacked clinton Gothmog Apr 2018 #484

No I don't claim that at all. I'm talking about the atmosphere on DU, and at that, JCanete Apr 2018 #486

You do know that most of the sanders supporters departed DU for JPR Gothmog Apr 2018 #488

I do not know tha tmost sanders supporters departed to JPR. Do you have anything to back that up? JCanete Apr 2018 #489

Are you asking for numbers to quantify something now? ehrnst Apr 2018 #555

good lord. I didn't declare anything near as dramatic. yes I am asking for numbers. How is me saying JCanete Apr 2018 #559

Yep. A couple of weeks ago a very kind person... SMC22307 Apr 2018 #80

"Bernie-bashing threads dominating GD" -- Nobody is doing that. NurseJackie Apr 2018 #97

LOL Tom Rinaldo Apr 2018 #99

I've noticed a new trend among the anti-Sanders crowd... SMC22307 Apr 2018 #174

Nobody is doing that. NurseJackie Apr 2018 #177

It's like elementary school where you and your best buds... SMC22307 Apr 2018 #183

LOL NurseJackie Apr 2018 #184

I guess chasing away Ken Burch wasn't enough Bradshaw3 Apr 2018 #252

"I guess chasing away Ken Burch wasn't enough" --- I have no idea what you're talking about. NurseJackie Apr 2018 #261

Wow, I had no idea you were so powerful Jackie! mcar Apr 2018 #324

Just lucky I guess. NurseJackie Apr 2018 #327

Reality is a thing of beauty, Jackie! Cha Apr 2018 #330

I'd better be nice to you Jackie, don't want you chasing me away. Don't want you to make me..... George II Apr 2018 #340

LOL Gothmog Apr 2018 #351

Did you wish Ken into the cornfield? FSogol Apr 2018 #537

LOL! NurseJackie Apr 2018 #538

LOL. TexasTowelie Apr 2018 #265

Ding ding ding! sheshe2 Apr 2018 #311

Well THAT is very interesting. Thanks for the update and factual info... NurseJackie Apr 2018 #382

You're welcome. TexasTowelie Apr 2018 #523

I miss engaging with Ken Gothmog Apr 2018 #563

So true... sheshe2 Apr 2018 #305

Remember the Stockholm syndrome post? KitSileya Apr 2018 #679

Yes. betsuni Apr 2018 #687

I also remember that sad and weak post Gothmog Apr 2018 #690

You haven't seen bashing here yet if you wen't around for the '16 primary. fleabiscuit Apr 2018 #322

Chasing Away Ken Burch. betsuni Apr 2018 #539

I did not. sprinkleeninow Apr 2018 #379

Unfortunately, there were many worse posts about Hillary and the posters remain. yardwork Apr 2018 #81

Ah yes. sheshe2 Apr 2018 #317

in the election season of 2016 treestar Apr 2018 #89

Hillary is a Democrat. And she doesn't devote time... LuvLoogie Apr 2018 #135

LOL! Hillary wrote a 512-page book & has been on a year-long worldwide tour bashing Democrats, among InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #326

What Democrats did she bash? radical noodle Apr 2018 #368

Obama for one, criticizing him for not speaking out more on her behalf... InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #387

When I read the book radical noodle Apr 2018 #440

Yes, absolutely, but one shouldn't bash Obama for not doing more about Russian interference. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #492

I don't think that's what it did radical noodle Apr 2018 #493

For the most part absolutely... much like Bernie. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #590

Not at all like Bernie eom radical noodle Apr 2018 #594

No outrage because there was no Democrat-bashing. betsuni Apr 2018 #369

See post #387 above. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #389

Um, describing things that happen in real life isn't bashing. betsuni Apr 2018 #391

Okay fine, if that's your standard, then that applies to Bernie... he's just describing things InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #397

Calling Democrats "feeble" and "corrupt" and "ideologically bankrupt" is NOT an example of... NurseJackie Apr 2018 #399

There is a difference between complaining after a loss vs day after day for 30 plus years Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #452

If so, prove it. Give evidence that Democrats are corrupt and failures, betsuni Apr 2018 #401

Could you quote a section of Hillary's book where she bashed the Democratic Party? yardwork Apr 2018 #384

See post #387 above. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #388

I'm on my phone and can't see post numbers. Could you link? yardwork Apr 2018 #443

I have a feeling quoting is out of the question. betsuni Apr 2018 #392

"year-long worldwide tour bashing Democrats" -- LOL! NurseJackie Apr 2018 #390

I especially like the little detail of "521-page book" betsuni Apr 2018 #393

You cannot be serious mcar Apr 2018 #147

Yes... sheshe2 Apr 2018 #320

I remember when people left this site to form another mcar Apr 2018 #325

Yes... sheshe2 Apr 2018 #329

Yep. Jerry Springer politics. jalan48 Apr 2018 #95

We can get that on social media, Twitter especially. SMC22307 Apr 2018 #191

Exactly. KPN Apr 2018 #130

And when SS and Medicare are cut... SMC22307 Apr 2018 #194

I'm guessing your guess is a good one. KPN Apr 2018 #199

If Medicare and SS are cut the Dems nor Sanders will have any say in it. The repugs, in case... brush Apr 2018 #271

Who could forget that? Dems do have a voice... SMC22307 Apr 2018 #280

Of course, but if they run everything and put thru cuts is not the fault of the Democratic Party. brush Apr 2018 #281

I'll wait to see how votes are cast before I assign blame. SMC22307 Apr 2018 #284

Wall Street Dems? Sounds like 2016 divisive rhetoric from a certain camp. brush Apr 2018 #342

YIKES , this shit is starting AGAIN Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #454

Post removed Post removed Apr 2018 #497

I'm not going there with regurgitating this 2016 campaign divisiveness brush Apr 2018 #498

FFS, this isn't new to 2016. SMC22307 Apr 2018 #502

If it pre-dates the 2016 campaign or still has regurgitators now, I'm still not participating. brush Apr 2018 #503

Oh no! Which ones? Which Democrats are you talking about? Please tell us! NurseJackie Apr 2018 #500

I keep asking and never get an answer. Who are these terrible Democrats? betsuni Apr 2018 #506

Looks like that person can't respond to my question. I really wanted to know, too. NurseJackie Apr 2018 #507

This "Wall Street Dems" business is fucking ridiculous. betsuni Apr 2018 #508

There were (are) some here who use their boasts to insinuate that Democratic candidates... NurseJackie Apr 2018 #510

I saw you post yesterday that it's illegal for candidates to accecpt corporate donations. betsuni Apr 2018 #511

He's not a Democrat. He criticizes the party as much as he does trump (O charismatic and... brush Apr 2018 #269

Yep, pushback based in defensiveness as KPN Apr 2018 #432

Criticism that divides the party is good? Why not actually join the party and work within to... brush Apr 2018 #436

Oh for goodness sakes. Stop with the criticizing KPN Apr 2018 #448

And that won in 2016? Short memory. brush Apr 2018 #464

You assume we lost because Sanders ran in 2016. KPN Apr 2018 #491

Let him stay an independent then and stop trying to head the Democratic Party ticket. brush Apr 2018 #494

You are welcome to your opinion as is KPN Apr 2018 #495

Your point is EXTREMELY well taken... I just take issue with referring to this site as a joke... InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #303

Hillary was the leading contender back in 2014 EffieBlack Apr 2018 #319

Nope, the WP article wasn't a poll, the actual polls have Biden polling better than Sanders stevenleser Apr 2018 #321

Why has the word "coronation" just popped back into my mind? TexasTowelie Apr 2018 #360

I guess "it is [his] turn" KitSileya Apr 2018 #438

As someone posted upthread, now that Obama's no longer in office we cant hold feet to the fire stevenleser Apr 2018 #309

You must have missed some in your count. (n/t) Jim Lane Apr 2018 #26

I guess that would go along with his Democratic Party bash #1430? George II Apr 2018 #58

If it's good for the Hillary, it's good for the Bernie treestar Apr 2018 #88

it is not boring, it is the truth. trueblue2007 Apr 2018 #190

Exactly Owl Apr 2018 #287

No politician has told the truth about the state of our country and our world, Ron Green Apr 2018 #6

Aw. NurseJackie Apr 2018 #9

Have you not seen your local party grown and energized Ron Green Apr 2018 #13

So, that's all his doing, huh? NurseJackie Apr 2018 #18

Yeah, thats what happened in my county. I suspect Ron Green Apr 2018 #25

Dogs have four legs and fur. Therefore all animals with four legs and fur are dogs. NurseJackie Apr 2018 #33

Your flippant responses with rolling laughers and all that Ron Green Apr 2018 #40

Nothing about what Bernie has accomplished or the details of what Blue_true Apr 2018 #45

In my last college class now 46 years ago we were addressed by our student advisor. He said.... George II Apr 2018 #57

If any solution starts off with the phrase "All ya need to do is---," then you can... NurseJackie Apr 2018 #64

It is political will. That has to come from people. And since Sanders Ron Green Apr 2018 #109

LOL! NurseJackie Apr 2018 #125

Since Trump's election many women and young people are becoming involved Fresh_Start Apr 2018 #128

Yes, and because of how HRC was treated mcar Apr 2018 #157

Come on. If Sanders presidential run had the impact on young people that you claim, he would have lunamagica Apr 2018 #188

I know that, when I ran for office in 2012, there were rarely a dozen Ron Green Apr 2018 #193

What, do they all tell you they are there because of Sanders, are they wearing his t shirts lunamagica Apr 2018 #200

The Parkand phenomenon is weeks old. Ron Green Apr 2018 #225

I'll ask again...if he had such support, why didn't he win? lunamagica Apr 2018 #229

He obviously DID NOT have such support until later. Ron Green Apr 2018 #235

Oh, it was the DNC. whic allowerd him to become a Democrat overnight so he could use its lunamagica Apr 2018 #242

Ya, Oregon was established by racists. It still voted with that mentality. fleabiscuit Apr 2018 #367

Oligarchy is an archaic term that is frequently used in the absence Blue_true Apr 2018 #575

A good point, and I think nationalization of business, with very few exceptions, Ron Green Apr 2018 #576

that interview was very disappointing, I was so surprised how poorly he did as he always seemed Exotica Apr 2018 #532

I get that Bernie's criticism of the Democratic Party attracts those who want reform and real change MaryMagdaline Apr 2018 #127

Has American racial equality been fulfilled? Ron Green Apr 2018 #152

As to your first question: no, of course not MaryMagdaline Apr 2018 #201

I think that too many Americans, including many on DU, Ron Green Apr 2018 #215

Much to consider. Thank you MaryMagdaline Apr 2018 #306

...even if that means abandoning some previous connections. fleabiscuit Apr 2018 #370

In other words, the Democratic Party consists of neoliberals in the pocket of corporations and betsuni Apr 2018 #378

Correct me if I am wrong, didnt he call every living democrat a liar? Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #457

If you dont acknowledge that BOTH major parties have existed to serve big capital, Ron Green Apr 2018 #540

The United States is a capitalist country, always will be. DUH. betsuni Apr 2018 #541

It is indeed silly! In this context it suggests... NurseJackie Apr 2018 #542

And as for you... Ron Green Apr 2018 #551

The difference is big capital. You may know G.K. Chestertons quote about the problem of Capitalism, Ron Green Apr 2018 #549

So then why doesn't he acknowledge that success? kcr Apr 2018 #68

Yes and no. Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #115

Wow I just read a post here, not sure how that is possible, that calls Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #455

Anonymous people. betsuni Apr 2018 #11

lol Cha Apr 2018 #21

But what has he DONE about it? George II Apr 2018 #50

He complains about Democrats and has vague policies with no details that in my opinion are Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #52

The reason he gets treated this way is because he's done other things besides bring new people in. DanTex Apr 2018 #439

That is a MOST EXCELLENT and very accurate description. NurseJackie Apr 2018 #7

You nailed it!!!! nt jrthin Apr 2018 #16

It is fair to criticize him BeyondGeography Apr 2018 #17

Or maxrandb Apr 2018 #27

BINGO!!!!!!! nt Blue_true Apr 2018 #48

When someone calls the Democratic party "corrupt" or "feeble" or "ideologically bankrupt"... NurseJackie Apr 2018 #53

It serves Bernie, the ego. smirkymonkey Apr 2018 #101

Agreed. It certainly doesn't benefit Democrats... NurseJackie Apr 2018 #108

Exactly Nurse Jackie!! MaryMagdaline Apr 2018 #132

So your apparent solution Nevernose Apr 2018 #62

Maybe President Obama maxrandb Apr 2018 #66

Maybe it should be Nevernose Apr 2018 #72

"and continually bash their leaders?" ... Nobody is doing that. NurseJackie Apr 2018 #67

Appeal? Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #117

I'm right there with you, Eliot mcar Apr 2018 #163

What threat is being posted Nevernose Apr 2018 #173

Look around this board mcar Apr 2018 #176

I perceive it more as a danger warning than a threat Nevernose Apr 2018 #189

This! mcar Apr 2018 #196

You dont have to appeal to me Nevernose Apr 2018 #170

I've tried making this point forever and a day... WE NEED TO UNITE AGAINST OUR COMMON ENEMY!! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #333

At least partially, due to Sanders' supporters who treestar Apr 2018 #93

So now we have Hillary supporters who have worked themselves into such hatred of Bernie BeyondGeography Apr 2018 #181

Sad to see, especially when we need to unite against our common ENEMY #1 InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #316

Have you visited the JPR site lately? Gothmog Apr 2018 #474

Excuse me but... vercetti2021 Apr 2018 #22

Yes maxrandb Apr 2018 #28

Who knows? vercetti2021 Apr 2018 #30

LOL! Bernie telling voters -- in deep red Texas -- to not vote for Republicans... SMC22307 Apr 2018 #207

Bernie raising money for Our Revolution in deep red Texas TexasTowelie Apr 2018 #366

Indeed. (nt) ehrnst Apr 2018 #521

Agreed Gothmog Apr 2018 #591

Right after he said how he 'understands' about those meanies at the DCCC. Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #527

Yes, every person including Bernie should be saying NOTHING negative about D Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #119

Someone should have mentioned that to Hillary... InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #356

I read the book and that is not really true...but no matter what Hillary is a Democrat. Sen. Sanders Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #528

Bernie is as much a Democrat as most Democrats... more in some cases. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #578

Bernie may caucus with us but he has gone out of his way to remain an independent and is not a Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #597

Bernie is for all intents & purposes a Democrat... aside from caucusing with the Democrats, InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #603

Bernie Sanders will tell you he is an independent...voting has nothing to do with it. Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #605

As would barring Bernie from running in the 2020 primary as a Democrat... InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #607

We will lose either way I think. I would take barring Sen. Sanders as I believe it would be less Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #609

You may be right... guess I side with more democracy, rather than less. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #611

Do you think anyone who wants to should be able to run as a Democrat? EffieBlack Apr 2018 #619

Certainly someone like Bernie who caucuses w/ Democrats & reliably votes w/the majority of Democrats InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #621

That's the standard you believe should be used to determine whether someone runs as a Dem? EffieBlack Apr 2018 #622

You're reading an awful lot into what I said... not every statement is mutually exclusive. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #623

Absent a ballot access law on tax returns, it is hard to keep a candidate off the ballot Gothmog Apr 2018 #624

Nursing old grudges does nothing to beat republicans lovemydogs Apr 2018 #23

Old grudges. Please wake up. Blue_true Apr 2018 #51

I know mcar Apr 2018 #166

Well said!! (Love my dogs too btw.) InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #608

Someobody should alert maxrandb Martin Eden Apr 2018 #24

Excuse me maxrandb Apr 2018 #31

You're asking the wrong question Martin Eden Apr 2018 #34

Hes not an ally - hes an adversary who uses our resources to advance his interests, some of which EffieBlack Apr 2018 #43

Agreed Gothmog Apr 2018 #84

Well said! smirkymonkey Apr 2018 #102

What you just said is provable fact. I wish we could talk about the people who are Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #120

Exactly how is Bernie helping us win. Blue_true Apr 2018 #55

Bernie Sanders is a US Senator Martin Eden Apr 2018 #71

Bernie caucuses with democrats because he would have no impact otherwise. Blue_true Apr 2018 #83

What has he done for Vermont? Tavarious Jackson Apr 2018 #96

I like Bernie, too janterry Apr 2018 #463

Not according to the TOS Ms. Toad Apr 2018 #192

If we wouldn't stand quietly while the GOP smears our party, why should we remain silent... NurseJackie Apr 2018 #234

You routinely bash Sanders unc70 Apr 2018 #240

"You routinely bash Sanders" -- I do no such thing. NurseJackie Apr 2018 #251

In My Not So Humble Opinion, you do unc70 Apr 2018 #258

No I don't. NurseJackie Apr 2018 #263

There is a difference in pointing out disagreements Ms. Toad Apr 2018 #273

Calling out his bad behavior is not bashing. It's holding him accountable. It's helpful criticism. NurseJackie Apr 2018 #276

But it is not heckling. He is offering criticism of the party's approach. Ms. Toad Apr 2018 #278

And we're offering "criticism" in return. NurseJackie Apr 2018 #282

None of these are insults, smears, or attacks, nor does calling him a heckler address them Ms. Toad Apr 2018 #289

Smears and lies. That's all he has. NurseJackie Apr 2018 #290

You really can't have it both ways. Ms. Toad Apr 2018 #295

You're exaggerating. I can't take you seriously... NurseJackie Apr 2018 #304

Are they not grasping that Democrats fully control only six states, an historic low? SMC22307 Apr 2018 #288

The Party is not his Party and it diminishes our electoral chances. He is not a Democrat and should Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #534

Take that up with the leaders, Ms. Toad Apr 2018 #550

Well that was last time...and in my opinion he should have not been allowed to run...a run as an Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #599

Somebody already alerted maxrandb. betsuni Apr 2018 #32

yes when posters work to divide us day after day questionseverything Apr 2018 #187

Sen. Sanders brings it on himself by both his words and his actions recently Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #529

And I thank him for being the heckler that he is. aikoaiko Apr 2018 #29

Post removed Post removed Apr 2018 #35

You nailed it. Dream Girl Apr 2018 #38

I think the Cavs thing is a pretty good analogy. Captain Stern Apr 2018 #41

Did the guy next to you complain about the Cavaliers' "business model"? George II Apr 2018 #42

I don't think you can criticize maxrandb Apr 2018 #47

Well I can't say anything myself, I'm a Knicks fan. George II Apr 2018 #61

O U C H Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #121

Just cilla4progress Apr 2018 #59

Sanders has allowed himself to be used as Trump's stalking horse PubliusEnigma Apr 2018 #63

Oh, this is helpful RandomAccess Apr 2018 #73

Don't we have much bigger fish to fry (than Bernie for the millionth time)? MelissaB Apr 2018 #74

Millions of new voters, young folk, seem to hang on his every word. Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #283

'Millions of new voters, young folk, seem to hang on his every word' melman Apr 2018 #371

k and r MariaCSR Apr 2018 #75

A "Nothing-But-The-Best-For-The-Oppressed" kind of guy. DinahMoeHum Apr 2018 #78

It's just a matter of time before he goes all Kucinich on us. MyNameGoesHere Apr 2018 #85

I have to agree treestar Apr 2018 #86

Is there any chance we might get a "Hate Bernie Forum?" Vinca Apr 2018 #91

This is something I could get behind. panader0 Apr 2018 #113

We have one already. A-Schwarzenegger Apr 2018 #277

Sanders proposals and platform had no chance of being adopted in the real world Gothmog Apr 2018 #94

+1000 brer cat Apr 2018 #328

No one has clarified how many new voters sanders needed to adopt his platform Gothmog Apr 2018 #343

And all of his millions of supporters? guillaumeb Apr 2018 #103

They were not enough...in 16 and won't be in 20...oh sure they can help elect the GOP by acting as Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #531

Pay attention to what someone DOES more than what he SAYS. Honeycombe8 Apr 2018 #105

thanks for also stoking that flame while pretending to objection.... JCanete Apr 2018 #141

Exactly which of these major programs has sanders got through congress? Gothmog Apr 2018 #344

When Sanders was what, Senator or Congressperson? Which of those two positions JCanete Apr 2018 #375

Exactly how did sanders expect to get any of his proppsals adopted Gothmog Apr 2018 #396

So who is the person you would vote for in this scenario? JCanete Apr 2018 #398

I live in the real world Gothmog Apr 2018 #403

you help to perpetuate the real world, as is. The republicans are content to reshape it to their JCanete Apr 2018 #405

So sanders made up his magical voter revolution? Gothmog Apr 2018 #407

how am I proving the premise of the op? Why don't you tell me what I said that was untrue? If JCanete Apr 2018 #408

Sanders campaign on ideas based on a lie about a magical voter revolution Gothmog Apr 2018 #413

I'll just say Goth, I wish you all the luck in the world. I don't think its the right approach. I JCanete Apr 2018 #417

Thank you for proving the accuracy of the premise in the OP Gothmog Apr 2018 #446

I'm glad that Sanders finally came around to HRC's affordable college proposal ehrnst Apr 2018 #410

And I think they all deserve credit and should be redusted off. JCanete Apr 2018 #412

What happened to single payer in Vermont? Gothmog Apr 2018 #415

holy shit...are we on repeat here? I already went into why that's a dumb argument...but you hold JCanete Apr 2018 #418

So sanders had no sway over his home state? Gothmog Apr 2018 #433

Did Cliinton get rid of stop-and-frisk when she was a senator of New York? JCanete Apr 2018 #437

Do you really want to compare Clinton's accomplishments in the senate to Sanders? Gothmog Apr 2018 #447

I asked you a question...do you have answer? Yes, Clinton has a range of political accomplishments. JCanete Apr 2018 #449

I asked you about the magical sanders voter rovolution Gothmog Apr 2018 #450

You know what....if that's what you care about, I hope you have a shiny trophy your ready to dust JCanete Apr 2018 #453

Where did I make stuff up? Gothmog Apr 2018 #459

I don't even know what to do with that. So your saying Sanders hasn't brought more people into the JCanete Apr 2018 #462

I am not going to debate the primary results on this thread Gothmog Apr 2018 #465

+1000 (nt) ehrnst Apr 2018 #520

You don't know the numbers, but are making claims that involve those numbers. ehrnst Apr 2018 #519

what claim did I make here that involves numbers? JCanete Apr 2018 #545

"I know that there are a lot more grass roots efforts popping up to fight in primaries," ehrnst Apr 2018 #547

Specifically relating to Our Revolution, Wolf Pack, other professed "berniecrats" JCanete Apr 2018 #553

The Our Revolution group in my county are a bunch of racist idiots Gothmog Apr 2018 #625

next time link to evidence of that attack, so I can evaulate it for myself. By the way, what's a JCanete Apr 2018 #627

Candidate for Congress admits arrest for cocaine when he was a teenager, riling Fort Bend race Gothmog Apr 2018 #637

Very interesting. (nt) ehrnst Apr 2018 #649

It's amusing that you would use anything to belittle me in an effort to prove that you're right. JCanete Apr 2018 #663

I actually know the Our Revolution idiots who did this Gothmog Apr 2018 #665

Here is some on the candidate that was attacked by the Our Revolution assholes Gothmog Apr 2018 #694

The attacks on Sri Kulkarni have been well documented right here on DU, and most.... George II Apr 2018 #641

I was just told that the Our Revolution told a group that Sri was "not one of us" Gothmog Apr 2018 #681

I'm really not surprised. Of course they'll say it was a "rogue chapter", but it is being done..... George II Apr 2018 #684

So far there had been no blowback Gothmog Apr 2018 #686

Local Democrats Infighting Attempts to Smear Sri Kulkarni Gothmog Apr 2018 #680

Is it hypocrisy... or have they "evolved"? NurseJackie Apr 2018 #644

Time will tell Gothmog Apr 2018 #682

Any effort to badger someone into using their full name... NurseJackie Apr 2018 #683

The Our Revolution group made no bones about this was due to race Gothmog Apr 2018 #691

I'm not surprised to learn that the Our Revolution group is racist... NurseJackie Apr 2018 #693

I think that attribution for "impact" needs to be factually attributed. It's definitely cumulative. ehrnst Apr 2018 #416

I do not understand why some politicians take such pride at accomplishing nothing... NurseJackie Apr 2018 #409

Indeed. (nt) ehrnst Apr 2018 #411

I've addressed your version of "nothing" in plenty of posts ad nauseum, but I wouldn't expect JCanete Apr 2018 #421

Why did Sanders refused to stop attacks on Congressman John Lewis at DNC? Gothmog Apr 2018 #476

THANK you! EffieBlack Apr 2018 #422

If I wanted to find out what his major legislative accomplishments were, where would I look? NurseJackie Apr 2018 #426

Beats me. I haven't found it. EffieBlack Apr 2018 #428

+1000 (nt) ehrnst Apr 2018 #548

If this OP is any indication, we are KPN Apr 2018 #107

Do you think it's helpful to call Democrats "feeble" or "corrupt" or "ideologically bankrupt"? NurseJackie Apr 2018 #122

I dont know how many will demand we APPEAL to them to get them to help us remove Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #123

My concern is exactly what you just so aptly described. Some of us will vote for the Democratic KPN Apr 2018 #145

Links please. I have not seen Sanders say those things anywhere. I have and do see, however, KPN Apr 2018 #136

LOL! NurseJackie Apr 2018 #144

What, no links? No clear evidence? Thought so. KPN Apr 2018 #150

Must have been sleeping when all those Cha Apr 2018 #334

I think if you believe it, you should say it. I don't think its helpful to pretend that something is JCanete Apr 2018 #153

Are you among those who criticized Hillary for speaking truth about Trump supporters a few weeks ago EffieBlack Apr 2018 #424

If you'd like I'll link to you my response regarding Clinton and what she said about JCanete Apr 2018 #435

I think it is hypocritical to criticize Democrats for saying things that Trump voters may find EffieBlack Apr 2018 #445

Well I just described some differences. What about those do you disagree with? Otherwise, JCanete Apr 2018 #451

In the real world, the Texas Democratic Party used to waste a ton of money on this theory Gothmog Apr 2018 #565

In htat real world scenario, I might take issue with how they tried to do it. I see how they JCanete Apr 2018 #567

I believe in winning races in the real world Gothmog Apr 2018 #568

He was also a candidate voted for by millions. David__77 Apr 2018 #118

even as a candidate, Bernie was a heckler Fresh_Start Apr 2018 #134

"But he doesn't work with others to accomplish it." -- Agreed! It's always ... NurseJackie Apr 2018 #414

Privilege EffieBlack Apr 2018 #423

"Their lives and futures don't depend on making progress." -- Preach! NurseJackie Apr 2018 #431

Exactly! EffieBlack Apr 2018 #434

I couldn't agree more pandr32 Apr 2018 #579

Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2018 #613

Bernie ran a campaign without the use of corporate money. Therein lies his sin. jalan48 Apr 2018 #124

My problems with Bernie have nothing to do with whether he took corporate money EffieBlack Apr 2018 #133

I'm sure that's true. The corporations care though. jalan48 Apr 2018 #137

Your problems, or lack-there-of, with our other candidates have nothing to do with JCanete Apr 2018 #162

Which Democrats accepted "corporate money" to run their campaigns? NurseJackie Apr 2018 #142

There are numerous articles on who funded the 2016 election. Google and you can see for jalan48 Apr 2018 #164

Google it yourself! "Corporations and unions are banned from donating money directly to candidates NurseJackie Apr 2018 #267

Corporations can donate through Super Pacs. jalan48 Apr 2018 #296

You mean like the super pac that supported sanders? Gothmog Apr 2018 #348

Boom. sheshe2 Apr 2018 #468

Too bad he didn't put better use of that money then nini Apr 2018 #167

No one knows what money was used. No reconciliation R B Garr Apr 2018 #202

I look forward to Mueller's report. jalan48 Apr 2018 #204

About the $10 Million?? R B Garr Apr 2018 #205

Yes. And hopefully more info on the American oligarchs as well. jalan48 Apr 2018 #206

The Russian oligarchs are consistently ignored by R B Garr Apr 2018 #213

The only strange thing is your not so transparent attempt to tie Bernie to the Russians. jalan48 Apr 2018 #217

Reality is in the news, though. Not in favored speeches. R B Garr Apr 2018 #220

Well then, I'm sure Mueller will be all over it. Let's see what his report says. jalan48 Apr 2018 #221

There are already plenty of reports about the corruption R B Garr Apr 2018 #291

There will be ballot access laws in a number of blue states Gothmog Apr 2018 #350

I think all Presidential candidates need to show their tax returns. jalan48 Apr 2018 #352

Any Democratic candidate who refuses to provide their returns need to be excluded from the ballot Gothmog Apr 2018 #355

Horseshit. Adrahil Apr 2018 #227

Thank you! NurseJackie Apr 2018 #230

Your first statement isn't 100% accurate, and your last one is implying that.... George II Apr 2018 #243

Ya think?! Of course big business & Wall Street expect it. Bernie set the bar high InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #357

Sanders is not a Democrat, he just hangs out with them and uses the party elocs Apr 2018 #126

His own political agenda? Please tell, what is that agenda? KPN Apr 2018 #156

Ha! NurseJackie Apr 2018 #224

Word. NurseJackie Apr 2018 #223

Post removed Post removed Apr 2018 #129

Yet another attack on a member of the Democratic leadership left-of-center2012 Apr 2018 #131

It's largely a ceremonial role that has little or no real or meaningful impact on party business. NurseJackie Apr 2018 #159

Sorry to state the obvious.. Didn't work. Cha Apr 2018 #336

Lesson learned... NurseJackie Apr 2018 #337

Yeah HOPEFULLY.. That's Cha Apr 2018 #339

Hmm, a job invented for him...in order to woo his supporters ...bad idea. Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #533

Totally insulting and off base. If he were wrong about his complaints...and why don't you JCanete Apr 2018 #138

Hear, hear! KPN Apr 2018 #151

bravo dembotoz Apr 2018 #155

! TexasTowelie Apr 2018 #372

It truly depends on how you define it. I define an outsider as somebody who isn't in the click...who JCanete Apr 2018 #373

"It truly depends on how you define it." TexasTowelie Apr 2018 #376

That doesn't make him an insider. Every mesasure that people here would use to bash him JCanete Apr 2018 #406

I can't say what I sum up TexasTowelie Apr 2018 #513

how? where are my contradicitions? Okay wow....so something that just happened recently JCanete Apr 2018 #516

Since you asked I will point it out to you. TexasTowelie Apr 2018 #517

Well for starters its hard to nail this down when so much of the language here, when its convenient, JCanete Apr 2018 #518

You do realize that the premise of this thread is that Sanders is an outsider with no Gothmog Apr 2018 #569

fucking a....except that my first post literally address why the presmise is bullshit, and since you JCanete Apr 2018 #629

You never addressed the premise of the OP Gothmog Apr 2018 #632

Ask them why dont they want to see the same number of years and extent of tax returns Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #653

I believe that a number of blue states will be adopting ballot access laws Gothmog Apr 2018 #654

I assume every person you or I communicate with wants these laws. Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #655

I believe in these laws and think that they are constitutional Gothmog Apr 2018 #656

Speaking of, didnt Mueller get these a long time ago, you think? Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #657

The best speculation is yes that Mueller has these tax returns Gothmog Apr 2018 #658

Oh no, dont think he will, but someone will. They better. Or we better get the info Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #661

Yeah, that tactic has been tried that with me as well. NurseJackie Apr 2018 #659

I like living in the real world and in the real world need to have realistic proposals Gothmog Apr 2018 #662

I wanted to find a list of his major legislative accomplishments were... but nobody wanted to reply. NurseJackie Apr 2018 #664

I believe Bernie has been in Washington murielm99 Apr 2018 #377

So if you show up at a party and none of the other guests want you there, JCanete Apr 2018 #404

This post makes no sense. murielm99 Apr 2018 #471

well you could have asked for clarification, but I get that that's not what you're going for. JCanete Apr 2018 #478

That is not what I said. murielm99 Apr 2018 #505

You do realize that you are validating the premise of the OP? Gothmog Apr 2018 #571

No, I'm not. The op is saying "nothing but a heckler" which would suggest no value. I JCanete Apr 2018 #574

How does sanders' proposals have any value without a magical voter revolution? Gothmog Apr 2018 #583

how does being in opposition to a voter revolution have any value? But I've said over and over how JCanete Apr 2018 #584

I live in the real world and have actually worked on campaigns Gothmog Apr 2018 #585

If after 30+ years, you're still an outsider, you're not doing it right EffieBlack Apr 2018 #592

That doesn't make any sense Effie...hell our society continues to make whole races outsiders. Would JCanete Apr 2018 #628

I'm not talking about "outsiders" in general EffieBlack Apr 2018 #636

Sanders is put there by his constituents, not by the other people in congress. There JCanete Apr 2018 #660

Because we have a two party system, a heckling "outsider" benefits the other party. honest.abe Apr 2018 #383

No it doesn't. It benefits our party to create an environment where the groundworks is laid down JCanete Apr 2018 #402

Think of it like this.. honest.abe Apr 2018 #469

think of it like this then...sometimes we need an intervention JCanete Apr 2018 #483

Perhaps.. but during the intervention I think bashing the person as a failure.. honest.abe Apr 2018 #485

I'll give you that it is indelicate. Its a conversation that's been going on for years though...nt JCanete Apr 2018 #487

The shame of DU is this acceptance of Bernie bashing. philly_bob Apr 2018 #154

+ a brazillian dembotoz Apr 2018 #160

... NurseJackie Apr 2018 #210

Did you ever see that one show Cuthbert Allgood Apr 2018 #473

Was it called "Skating on Thin Ice" NurseJackie Apr 2018 #475

Nope that isn't it. Cuthbert Allgood Apr 2018 #479

Seriously. The Democratic Party places him in an outreach position... SMC22307 Apr 2018 #216

Are you insinuating the entire Bernie or bust movement is fake news? Amimnoch Apr 2018 #232

Really? His constituents depressed the vote KPN Apr 2018 #247

One of many articles on it. Amimnoch Apr 2018 #255

That article is BS. It makes a grand and KPN Apr 2018 #430

So, in short to you it's "Fake news"? Amimnoch Apr 2018 #441

Yeah, read the article you linked. KPN Apr 2018 #444

"Minority and black turnout was not only lower in the national statistics... SMC22307 Apr 2018 #249

No argument at all about plenty to go around. Amimnoch Apr 2018 #257

The Senate Steering and Outreach committee is about setting the Democratic agenda in the Senate tammywammy Apr 2018 #236

LOL! Yeah, you go with that. SMC22307 Apr 2018 #254

What is amazing to me karin_sj Apr 2018 #231

EXACTLY Raine Apr 2018 #285

This Bernie trashing is out of control and serves no useful purpose! karin_sj Apr 2018 #158

Very productive... vi5 Apr 2018 #165

Just Plain Ugly OP. KPN Apr 2018 #168

LOL NurseJackie Apr 2018 #208

LOL. KPN Apr 2018 #244

I don't think you're Cha Apr 2018 #274

Troll bait. moondust Apr 2018 #172

Hey, I just found this cool Trash This thread button. Let me see what it does. CentralMass Apr 2018 #178

Thank God someone has finally found the courage to criticize Bernie Sanders on DU Still In Wisconsin Apr 2018 #179

Did you forget your sarcasm notice? unc70 Apr 2018 #260

I dont know but however many it is we need more! Still In Wisconsin Apr 2018 #262

Ive been arguing upthread, trying to make a reasonable case against this echo chamber. Ron Green Apr 2018 #195

If Bernie makes you this angry, you need to look in the mirror. earthshine Apr 2018 #203

I agree with you 100%, and I like the descriptive way you stated it. NBachers Apr 2018 #211

We've got a big tent JackInGreen Apr 2018 #233

"This entire thread is an example of why we lost." -- No it's not. NurseJackie Apr 2018 #237

Because Cheney, Ryan and Cruz do not want the Democratic Party to be Ron Green Apr 2018 #241

LOL! NurseJackie Apr 2018 #253

One might pass that along to BS. nt fleabiscuit Apr 2018 #365

Yup. KPN Apr 2018 #246

So Bernie should accept the "corporatists" and "GOP lite" Dems. honest.abe Apr 2018 #256

And why we're in danger of losing again karin_sj Apr 2018 #358

I like Bernie and Jspur Apr 2018 #239

Corporations and unions are banned from donating money directly to candidates. NurseJackie Apr 2018 #245

Why do you think Bernie never released his tax returns? Adrahil Apr 2018 #419

No responses, I see. Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #458

Yes nt Progressive dog Apr 2018 #248

Its becoming apparent that Sanders main goal is to destroy the existing Democratic party.. honest.abe Apr 2018 #250

He is. It is. They do. It is. It will. It will. He does. He should. He will. They are. It is. NurseJackie Apr 2018 #286

If by heckler you mean Lunabell Apr 2018 #259

So much mocking in this thread. Beartracks Apr 2018 #266

Nope, it's holding feet to the fire. Remember that? Or was that just for Obama? nt stevenleser Apr 2018 #314

What? DU members should hold eachother's feet to the fire? Beartracks Apr 2018 #364

Post removed Post removed Apr 2018 #268

I'd like to thank Bernie Sanders for everything he does to support our veterans. democrank Apr 2018 #272

Yes, but it was an Obama administration review that lit a torch under him. VOX Apr 2018 #275

good catch lunamagica Apr 2018 #279

Perhaps you should contact the American Legion and VFW and demand democrank Apr 2018 #298

Whether we do that or not doesn't change the truth. Your post is a distraction. nt stevenleser Apr 2018 #313

Just one of many issues Bernie has led on... his support of our veterans is second to none! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #332

BS was chairman of the Senate Veterans Affairs Committee murielm99 Apr 2018 #380

Interesting. It seems that someone's "second to none" boast isn't entirely accurate. NurseJackie Apr 2018 #386

Thank you for this, Muriel.. Cha Apr 2018 #504

So, if I wanted to find out what his major legislative accomplishments were, where would I look? NurseJackie Apr 2018 #385

Why doesnt anyone take you up on this? I tried with a thread of my own, but when Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #460

i love bernie and hate sports and this garbage is boring. Cobalt Violet Apr 2018 #335

threads like this are the reason... cntrfthrs Apr 2018 #338

Threads like this on an anonymous, rather obscure message board will have nothing to do with whether EffieBlack Apr 2018 #427

Exactly! The post you're responding to is echoing a common (but flawed) theme... NurseJackie Apr 2018 #442

Just like so many of today's "activists"! JNelson6563 Apr 2018 #349

It's so ''American'' to use football analogies for political converse. Perhaps that's what's wrong. YOHABLO Apr 2018 #354

K&R Jamaal510 Apr 2018 #381

so true heaven05 Apr 2018 #395

The fact is this person they are discussing has TREMENDOUS influence over MILLIONS Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #461

I can only heaven05 Apr 2018 #472

Rec for truth. nt LexVegas Apr 2018 #425

K&R. Paladin Apr 2018 #429

How do threads like this help us win the election this year? IronLionZion Apr 2018 #466

How do Bernie's constant attacks on Democratic Party help? Adrahil Apr 2018 #490

It does just the opposite karin_sj Apr 2018 #512

why is any one wasting time on bernie sanders posts or opinions? beachbum bob Apr 2018 #501

It's beyond belief that we've had over a YEAR of this pathetic, petty, divisive bullshit. Kentonio Apr 2018 #530

It is past time for Sen. Sanders to bow out of the 2020 presidential race for the good of the Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #536

Sorry, but trying to force an alternate reality isnt going R B Garr Apr 2018 #546

We're smarter than we're being given credit for. NurseJackie Apr 2018 #552

Yes, and that is apparently very frustrating for some. R B Garr Apr 2018 #556

Yep Gothmog Apr 2018 #572

Who they are? Kentonio Apr 2018 #593

I could also say the same about Bernie. R B Garr Apr 2018 #596

Reality is the GOP hold the White House, Senate and Congress Kentonio Apr 2018 #626

Another attempt at false realities. R B Garr Apr 2018 #635

+1 betsuni Apr 2018 #638

I only have one more thing to say to you. Kentonio Apr 2018 #639

... betsuni Apr 2018 #643

Sorry! No. No more false realities. R B Garr Apr 2018 #645

"If you continue to attack progressives," -- Nobody is doing that. NurseJackie Apr 2018 #647

"Anyone attacking Democrats is the real enemy." -- Perfect summary. NurseJackie Apr 2018 #646

And look how the alternate reality is being promoted R B Garr Apr 2018 #685

... LexVegas Apr 2018 #557

Ummm.. disillusioned73 Apr 2018 #544

Bernie Snackshack Apr 2018 #577

Stop it! NurseJackie Apr 2018 #582

I'd call that bashing. ehrnst Apr 2018 #604

Yep. Bashing EffieBlack Apr 2018 #620

I love Bernie! the_sly_pig Apr 2018 #630

That too, but there's also the money he's raising. ucrdem Apr 2018 #631

Really? Tell me more. Who receives the "money he's raising"?? NurseJackie Apr 2018 #650

Yes, that's what makes it more complicated. ucrdem Apr 2018 #671

Fascinating. NurseJackie Apr 2018 #676

Mambo! ucrdem Apr 2018 #677

Always kind of reminded me of.. Amimnoch Apr 2018 #648

Eh... Crutchez_CuiBono Apr 2018 #651

I preferred it when never ending threads were about kudzu ("it's going places") DBoon Apr 2018 #652

This is the thread that never dies. nolabear Apr 2018 #666

Congrats of being post 666 for this thread Gothmog Apr 2018 #668

LOL! Just maybe a giggle from the old timers who get the joke. nolabear Apr 2018 #669

My son's law firm's new york office is in 666 Fifth Avenue Gothmog Apr 2018 #670

666 replies is bad luck. Also I like Bernie although I think he's flawed. nt el_bryanto Apr 2018 #667

It didn't last long.. Cha Apr 2018 #672

Hi Cha Gothmog Apr 2018 #674

G'Day, Goth Cha Apr 2018 #675

This is so spot on. NCTraveler Apr 2018 #678

So true. It is very accurate. nt R B Garr Apr 2018 #695

Good ol Max.. Cha Apr 2018 #696

Absolutely. He hit a home run here... R B Garr Apr 2018 #697

Outta the park! To Cha Apr 2018 #698