Bernie Sanders is nothing but a heckler

[JCanete]

435. If you'd like I'll link to you my response regarding Clinton and what she said about

Trump supporters a few weeks ago. I said it may be problematic(meaning politically) but that she's not wrong.

I do advocate a generous read with Trump supporters, because underneath all of the bullshit, even they are human. I advocate for accepting that as effed up as their version of reality is, that in their mind they think of htemselves as good people, and from there I think we need to deconstruct with them what doing good and what doing evil looks like. For that reason I don't think calling them deplorables is politically helpful, and I don't think, as dehumanizing as these people are capable of being, that dehumanizing others gets us to a place where there is less of htat shit. We can't marginalize their humanity and ever hope to think that we can achieve a world where such debasement is a thing of the past. Yes I know that democrats and liberals do not carry in their hearts the same level of hatred or willing to do violence(typically) that people on the right seem capable of, but I do worry about a slippery slope here. We are this way by virtue of certain intellectual beliefs and practices. If we let lose of those I don't really know what's around the bend.

That does not mean that we can accept A Trump voter's truth as truth. It isn't anywhere near truth. If I ever say we should listen to Trump supporters, (which I would never be ham-fisted enough to say in a vaccuum, unlike our M$M), I mean that we need to understand them so that we can effectively treat them. While the other approach is to try to ignore the ignorant white voter and wait for the day (coming soon) when they are the minority, I assure you, that will not erase bigotry or the value of dividing people on identity. And people are so easily divided.

So yeah, I disagree that we should be attacking people's character(for the most part, however republican leaders and Trump are fair game here and have demonstrated that their characters are in-fact toxic), and I disagree that we should be labeling them deplorables as a group BECAUSE that does the opposite of the work...it allows them (because hey, they know that they are all good people deep down inside) to bond around an identity of the maligned...the, heh, if you will(because they will), martyred. Rather than finding the chinks in their armor we are pushing them back under the protective weave of Trump's disgusting hair when we do that. We've told them that we already think they are despicable, that we want nothing to do with them. Why would they trust us to tell them anything else beyond that point?

So is it hypocrisy you see on display here? I don't. If Sanders weren't talking effectiveness but was instead trashing democtrats as bad people or stupid people I would have a problem with that on a political level, and somewhat on a humanistic level, and in most cases(though probably not all) I would object to it on the grounds of being slanderous. But that isn't what's happening.