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Jim Lane

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328. "BS has a history of saying that he both is and isn't a Democrat."

Sun Mar 25, 2018, 11:02 AM

Mar 2018

That's because "is" and "isn't" each has an element of truth. Life isn't always simple.

For example, from the point of view of ousting Charles Grassley as Chair of the Senate Judiciary Committee, and replacing him with a D-after-the-name Democrat like Leahy, Feinstein, or Whitehouse, Bernie is a Democrat.

From the point of view of making a map about the Senate midterms, Bernie and Angus King are sometimes given their own color (neither blue nor red) and are sometimes just shown as blue. At least one mapmaker splits the difference, showing them as blue but with a green dot. If "issues" like this matter to you, then you just go right on writing about them at every opportunity. It's obvious that you'll have plenty of company on DU. The rest of us care more about Grassley and his ilk.

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DU's Bernie problem. [View all] CanSocDem Mar 2018 OP

This problem existed at DU long before Bernie came on the scene. comradebillyboy Mar 2018 #1

No, not like this... Dennis Donovan Mar 2018 #4

I remember the mass purges of Hillary supporters on DU in 2008, it was comradebillyboy Mar 2018 #215

Then why did I spend 8 years hiding out in the BOG while Obama was POTUS? Hekate Mar 2018 #240

Yeah, like the attacks on Hillary and President Obama by some on DU. Blue_true Mar 2018 #5

That is utter bullshit... Dennis Donovan Mar 2018 #9

I pointed out a reality that happened. Blue_true Mar 2018 #15

Yup, manny was a long time troll going back years before 2016 JI7 Mar 2018 #20

There were others in his camp. Blue_true Mar 2018 #24

Agreed, Jackpine Radical was an amazing guy. Warm, smart, and a dedicated progressive emulatorloo Mar 2018 #117

You may be interested in learning... potone Mar 2018 #168

And you believe him? sheshe2 Mar 2018 #258

Exactly, spend years tearing down the party with lies JI7 Mar 2018 #269

Thanks, JI7. sheshe2 Mar 2018 #271

I don't believe him mcar Mar 2018 #275

Was that before and after he quoted the Trump+Russia Progressive dog Mar 2018 #296

Personal insult? Dennis Donovan Mar 2018 #26

Manny did not cause chaos. zentrum Mar 2018 #55

Every thread he posted was flaimbait, designed to get DUers at each others throats emulatorloo Mar 2018 #123

Do people not understand KGB (I refuse to use their new name) agents are EVERYWHERE Eliot Rosewater Mar 2018 #142

Eliot, I agree and I am positive many of the most extreme views expressed against Clinton and Nitram Mar 2018 #147

But that goes against what we now know for a fact, that these entities ONLY Eliot Rosewater Mar 2018 #150

What better way to harm Clinton (and the Democratic Party) than putting Democrats at each other's Nitram Mar 2018 #158

No, more along the lines of Karl Rove-style operative. emulatorloo Mar 2018 #156

Yes that has gone on for a long time but the KGB has joined them. Eliot Rosewater Mar 2018 #160

So why are we participating in this? Note I use WE. KPN Mar 2018 #171

Honestly, I never saw him criticized a republican. Blue_true Mar 2018 #178

AFAIK He only tepidly criticized Republicans when I called him on it emulatorloo Mar 2018 #196

Lest we forget. sheshe2 Mar 2018 #243

Yes. Blue_true Mar 2018 #247

Wasn't he the Stockholm Syndrome guy? mcar Mar 2018 #280

That was WillyT sheshe2 Mar 2018 #281

I get them confused mcar Mar 2018 #289

I remember him lying constantly about what he would post, like that one. betsuni Mar 2018 #282

Many here did. sheshe2 Mar 2018 #285

I guess that's why some people like Trump, too. betsuni Mar 2018 #287

Umhm. sheshe2 Mar 2018 #292

Another thing he did was whenever something positive happened JI7 Mar 2018 #270

Yelp. Blue_true Mar 2018 #297

His posts were about "Third Way" Democrats. betsuni Mar 2018 #133

MANNY annoyed the heck out of me long before 2015. SleeplessinSoCal Mar 2018 #145

Obama was savaged. He was called I remember the 'used car salesman president'. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #202

Revisionist history GaryCnf Mar 2018 #209

I give you a post discussing calling Pres. Obama a used car salesman Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #216

Geeze! He seems like a real asshole. NurseJackie Mar 2018 #223

Said he never voted for Hill. sheshe2 Mar 2018 #248

From what I can see, he has some sympathetic die-hard fans and defenders around here. NurseJackie Mar 2018 #256

True dat. sheshe2 Mar 2018 #260

Well, his wife was very ill... But we have to support our Democratic presidents. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #273

Coming from William Pitt GaryCnf Mar 2018 #228

It is not just William Pitt...there were plenty of DUers attacking pres. Obama. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #272

Trust me, no argument here. GaryCnf Mar 2018 #300

To be precise mcar Mar 2018 #288

WilliamPitt. As bad as Manny was, very devisive. nt Blue_true Mar 2018 #302

It wasn't blue dogs that abandoned Obama. sheshe2 Mar 2018 #250

I'm pretty much in agreement GaryCnf Mar 2018 #267

You are dead wrong. Blue_true Mar 2018 #301

Keep up GaryCnf Mar 2018 #306

You are still wrong. Blue_true Mar 2018 #309

W-h-i-t-e-w-a-s-h GaryCnf Mar 2018 #312

Wrong mcar Mar 2018 #276

Yes! True Blue American Mar 2018 #46

Shortly after Obama was sworn in, 2009, there were unbelievable attacks on him... George II Mar 2018 #254

Yeah, Manny Goldstein was the leader of that attack. Blue_true Mar 2018 #307

I don't know if he's Canadian, but he does live in Toronto. George II Mar 2018 #315

There was one guy who claimed to have left the U.S. in late 2009 because of Obama. betsuni Mar 2018 #323

It was but never to this extreme, SSDD with so many. dae Mar 2018 #7

It has NEVER been as bad as it is now. Greybnk48 Mar 2018 #47

Yes it was that bad with Obama. sheshe2 Mar 2018 #251

It was worse mcar Mar 2018 #291

That's true too. zentrum Mar 2018 #53

Fuck yeah, REC! Dennis Donovan Mar 2018 #2

"CANNOT discuss the elements of a 'democratic society'" NCTraveler Mar 2018 #3

...because there is a REAL Bernie problem on DU Dennis Donovan Mar 2018 #6

"because there is a REAL Bernie problem on DU" NCTraveler Mar 2018 #8

I know, and I've got your back! Dennis Donovan Mar 2018 #10

Happy Saturday. NCTraveler Mar 2018 #12

The posters driven off were not progressives. They supported Trump over Hillary. DanTex Mar 2018 #13

That is utter nonsense Dennis Donovan Mar 2018 #16

They supported trump over Clinton and continue to do so JI7 Mar 2018 #18

Broad brush nonsense, fueled by russian hacking... Dennis Donovan Mar 2018 #23

Oy vey Dennis Donovan Mar 2018 #25

see JRP . stonecutter357 Mar 2018 #37

Are you SURE that JPR wasn't started to divide DU? Using a beloved, passed DUer? Dennis Donovan Mar 2018 #39

Regardless of why it was started, it exists to this day, and those "progressives" that left DU DanTex Mar 2018 #85

I agree sarah FAILIN Mar 2018 #60

It's way more "say a word against HER" Dennis Donovan Mar 2018 #63

Wrong. sarah FAILIN Mar 2018 #77

+1M nt Plucketeer Mar 2018 #94

Bernie is not considered a Democrat by Bernie. Just ask him. LuvLoogie Mar 2018 #73

yep Eliot Rosewater Mar 2018 #84

Yes It's Like The Twilight Zone Of Democrats Me. Mar 2018 #95

You're absolutely correct! He doesn't! (So I won't either.) NurseJackie Mar 2018 #97

That's 2 Of Us Me. Mar 2018 #218

3. Sparkly Mar 2018 #342

Great analogy! May I borrow it? RestoreAmerica2020 Mar 2018 #274

Sure. LuvLoogie Mar 2018 #321

It's the truth. The people who left wanted to support Trump over Hillary. DanTex Mar 2018 #76

Folks who cited Fox News and Joe DiGenova to smear Democrats arent emulatorloo Mar 2018 #198

Proof? zentrum Mar 2018 #59

Check JPR, where the same people are free to speak their right-wing minds. It's pretty ugly. DanTex Mar 2018 #81

And they still ban people for something ...not sure what. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #214

I agree with your sentiment. David__77 Mar 2018 #180

Come on. Blue_true Mar 2018 #183

Exactly, we are people who all share the same the same core values. emulatorloo Mar 2018 #199

Those people supported and continue to support trump over Clinton JI7 Mar 2018 #17

The Trump supporting JP crew Renew Deal Mar 2018 #28

More nonsense. Please stop feeding the Russian beast? Dennis Donovan Mar 2018 #33

This is gaslighting. We all know what happened here. You will not tewrite the facts with wild boston bean Mar 2018 #48

Okay, so the Russian hack is "fake news" Dennis Donovan Mar 2018 #50

The russian hack is real and it was to harm hillary and elect trump. boston bean Mar 2018 #62

Bernie supported Hillary, NOT Trump... Dennis Donovan Mar 2018 #65

We are talking about people here on DU who supportrted him and went full on trump in the GE. boston bean Mar 2018 #68

"On DU" Dennis Donovan Mar 2018 #89

Your anecdotes don't prove a thing. MrsCoffee Mar 2018 #98

Real life? Dennis Donovan Mar 2018 #101

Are you saying I don't have a community or friends? MrsCoffee Mar 2018 #105

I would bet big bucks elmac Mar 2018 #169

You lose. Just one of many: betsuni Mar 2018 #176

I know that to be untrue. Just look at JPR. Those were many long time DUers. Many who were critical boston bean Mar 2018 #120

You know FOR SURE JPR is NOT a Russian thing? Dennis Donovan Mar 2018 #130

I have known most of those posters for over a decade on DU. boston bean Mar 2018 #140

Damn those liberals! Dennis Donovan Mar 2018 #144

What are you attempting to do here? Tell us we didnt see what we saw. To churn it up some more. boston bean Mar 2018 #148

Bait... ignore Dennis Donovan Mar 2018 #153

Yeah. More gaslighting. boston bean Mar 2018 #154

No, bigger fish to fry... Dennis Donovan Mar 2018 #163

That's what we always get when we point out the actual behavior as it was. Gaslighting. stevenleser Mar 2018 #187

They'll never stop, but, neither will Bernie. And long after he's gone... InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2018 #299

It is not a Russian thing. It was started by DUers emulatorloo Mar 2018 #200

I worked for McGovern in 1972, before I could vote. LisaM Mar 2018 #167

That is a fair argument... Dennis Donovan Mar 2018 #172

Umm, lots of "real life" liberals supported Clinton in the primaries. dawg day Mar 2018 #245

Same here... and I'm SICK of being maligned. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2018 #298

Bernie supported Bernie. MrsCoffee Mar 2018 #74

yep Eliot Rosewater Mar 2018 #92

Nonsense. EVERY Bernie supporter I KNOW PERSONALLY voted for Secretary Clinton Dennis Donovan Mar 2018 #99

Did YOU KNOW THEM ALL? MrsCoffee Mar 2018 #103

Personally... Dennis Donovan Mar 2018 #127

For someone who likes quoting DU rules you should read the one about quoting DU rules. MrsCoffee Mar 2018 #128

...and that rule is? Dennis Donovan Mar 2018 #136

I can't read them for you. You'll have to go look them up. MrsCoffee Mar 2018 #137

Ha!! :-D NurseJackie Mar 2018 #106

. Dennis Donovan Mar 2018 #138

All dogs are mammals. betsuni Mar 2018 #162

... lapucelle Mar 2018 #192

Several of my kids friend who supported Sen. Sanders voted for Stein or just stayed home. I am proud Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #208

IMO only, It looked like it pained him to support Clinton......... Old Vet Mar 2018 #152

I pretty much saw the same thing. Blue_true Mar 2018 #190

Driven off ? No they left for JPR ! lol . stonecutter357 Mar 2018 #34

yawn... Dennis Donovan Mar 2018 #35

LOL. Driven off? Maven Mar 2018 #72

I cant believe I read "driven off" , fuck this, I cant take it anymore Eliot Rosewater Mar 2018 #93

They are always victims. Maven Mar 2018 #100

Victims who use gaslighting at every opportunity. "What you saw and lived through didn't happen!" stevenleser Mar 2018 #188

LOL! I spotted that too! NurseJackie Mar 2018 #109

Thanks Maven. Thats the truth of what happened. Tiring of revisionist history we are seeing emulatorloo Mar 2018 #139

One of those "driven off" now tells me WhiteTara Mar 2018 #112

you don't see anymore from the other side either...and the process at that time Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #203

Agreed. This thread serves no good purpose. There's just one solution: NurseJackie Mar 2018 #11

Bernie is a Democrat by admin's standards Dennis Donovan Mar 2018 #19

Ha!! :-D NurseJackie Mar 2018 #21

I hope that changes. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #204

'Elements' like... CanSocDem Mar 2018 #14

Many people support and promote those ideas. NCTraveler Mar 2018 #22

Those are... CanSocDem Mar 2018 #29

Ive never said such a thing. NCTraveler Mar 2018 #40

Yes, the terminology is wrong, the goal is right. Blue_true Mar 2018 #224

Free tuition and free medical care. Blue_true Mar 2018 #193

"Forced" into social democracy....???? CanSocDem Mar 2018 #197

Look, we live in an unhealthy society. Blue_true Mar 2018 #221

You are right...and let me tell you the Hope Scholarship in Georgia does not take incomes into Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #205

Georgia is republican led. Blue_true Mar 2018 #225

Why does so much of DU today have to be about Bernie, good and bad? kstewart33 Mar 2018 #80

I think that is a fair question. NCTraveler Mar 2018 #108

I dont think Sanders is likely to be nominee. David__77 Mar 2018 #201

NCT, I mostly agree with you. kstewart33 Mar 2018 #219

Our focus should be Nov 2018 and beating enablers of facism. RiverStone Mar 2018 #159

I agree, go into November United and let later stuff sort itself out. Blue_true Mar 2018 #230

Bernie was used as a tool of division by the Russians Renew Deal Mar 2018 #27

That is the long and short of it. ucrdem Mar 2018 #30

That is unbelievable. CanSocDem Mar 2018 #31

Yep! There it is. n/t Greybnk48 Mar 2018 #49

Several other posts have also done a good job of illustrating your point. (n/t) Jim Lane Mar 2018 #88

Two of that person's four statements are demonstrably true and correct. You can disagree with the stevenleser Mar 2018 #261

Using Senator Wellstone as your avatar while attacking Liberal Democrats... Dennis Donovan Mar 2018 #42

Bernie is not a Democrat Renew Deal Mar 2018 #44

Per the admins, he certainly is... Dennis Donovan Mar 2018 #45

Admin don't get to decide that. MrsCoffee Mar 2018 #67

And to paraphrase one Earl Butz, aka-chmeee Mar 2018 #78

Ah good ol' Earl Butz. I've been wracking my brain trying to remember his name. I've used that.... George II Mar 2018 #263

I thought that was under St. Ronnie.. aka-chmeee Mar 2018 #286

That's right, it was Nixon. Damn, now you've got me thinking again, who was the guy.... George II Mar 2018 #290

It is attributed to John Rusling Block aka-chmeee Mar 2018 #293

Thanks. They sure come up with some losers, don't they? George II Mar 2018 #294

... NurseJackie Mar 2018 #220

The bigger and more relevant point is he doesn't self identify that way. stevenleser Mar 2018 #262

You make a false assumption that those who support Sen. Sanders are more liberal or progressive. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #211

You assume all LIberal Democrats support Sanders nini Mar 2018 #303

So true. MrsCoffee Mar 2018 #66

"was" ???????????????? Cryptoad Mar 2018 #75

Thank you Eliot Rosewater Mar 2018 #96

Just wait until he announces for 2020 PDittie Mar 2018 #32

Because he isn't shenmue Mar 2018 #38

Sorry, shenmue... Dennis Donovan Mar 2018 #43

Sorry Dennis, but the admins don't run the Democratic party. MrsCoffee Mar 2018 #71

*sigh* They publicly stated the Senator Sanders is a Dem Dennis Donovan Mar 2018 #174

No they didn't except during the brief time he became a Dem perhaps not sure...they said we have to Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #217

Post removed Post removed Mar 2018 #283

In the TOS they clearly state Bernie Sanders is an Independent. Fla Dem Mar 2018 #332

You can take a couple of those people out already GaryCnf Mar 2018 #110

So you would have rejected FDR right out of the gate. MrsCoffee Mar 2018 #122

Nice Spin GaryCnf Mar 2018 #132

I don't think the poster said that. Blue_true Mar 2018 #237

Sanders cult will fade eventually. He'll have his time in the spotlight and like Fla Dem Mar 2018 #141

The "Sanders Cult" GaryCnf Mar 2018 #170

I don't call it a cult. Blue_true Mar 2018 #238

Sorry, your post is confusing and disjointed. Blue_true Mar 2018 #236

Maybe you understood it perfectly GaryCnf Mar 2018 #310

It's not just because he's not a Democrat, it because he speaks out against Democrats that Fla Dem Mar 2018 #134

Like every candidate, Bernie will have to answer hard questions. No coronation emulatorloo Mar 2018 #146

What I hope for. Blue_true Mar 2018 #241

What I hope for. dawg day Mar 2018 #277

Yeah, that works for me as long as we still win 2020. nt Blue_true Mar 2018 #308

He is not a Democrat and must run as an independent as he left the party after his last attempt. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #212

NO!!!!!!!! Blue_true Mar 2018 #242

If he runs we lose...and he will damage the party less if he runs as an independent. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #264

You want a third-party candidate in the race? shanny Mar 2018 #326

We will lose if he runs either way...so I pick the option that won't have Democrats at each other's Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #339

Auto-trash by Keyword solved my Bernie problem. stonecutter357 Mar 2018 #36

A lot of ppl rightly or wrongly blame Bernie , Jill Stein for the loss in the last election. Mr. Sparkle Mar 2018 #41

Jill Stein should never be lumped with Bernie. Greybnk48 Mar 2018 #57

You repeat a falsehood that is widely believed Jim Lane Mar 2018 #104

... NurseJackie Mar 2018 #114

Thank you for pointing out these facts. David__77 Mar 2018 #182

Jim you are a good guy, but you are wrong about this. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #213

And Bernie is still just as much of a Democrat as he was when Weaver said that. Jim Lane Mar 2018 #226

... NurseJackie Mar 2018 #257

Jim, you realize that you are starting to sound like Sarah Sanders apologia for Trump at this point stevenleser Mar 2018 #266

Sanders listed his party affiliation as "Democratic" lapucelle Mar 2018 #295

He told the FEC he was running for the Democratic nomination. Jim Lane Mar 2018 #305

So pessimistic. Wow. NurseJackie Mar 2018 #311

It would depend how he would behave after that. stevenleser Mar 2018 #317

Sanders listed his party affiliation as Democratic lapucelle Mar 2018 #324

"BS has a history of saying that he both is and isn't a Democrat." Jim Lane Mar 2018 #328

While life may not be simple, this is simple. lapucelle Mar 2018 #333

I enjoy watching the pretzel "logic" that some people use when trying to explain and ... NurseJackie Mar 2018 #330

Hes not a voter, hes a politician and member of Congress frazzled Mar 2018 #319

Then tell the Democrats in Congress to boot him out of the Democratic caucus. Jim Lane Mar 2018 #322

Agreed. I find zentrum Mar 2018 #51

I really don't get the need for this thread when the reasons are so obvious OnDoutside Mar 2018 #52

Thank you for sharing your views concerning the 2016 primary. Jim Lane Mar 2018 #234

DUs Bernie problem. NCTraveler Mar 2018 #54

The problem I have rtracey Mar 2018 #56

Fortunately Bernie is becoming less and less of a problem every day ismnotwasm Mar 2018 #58

The primaries of 2018 will be a test. Blue_true Mar 2018 #244

Is it Bernie or his ideas that offend so many? Hopefully, we will get some new economic Progressives jalan48 Mar 2018 #61

Progressive Ideas Don't Offend People Here Me. Mar 2018 #111

As a life long Democrat I don't think Bernie is kicking the Party in the teeth. jalan48 Mar 2018 #135

Since He & His Offshoot Group OR Me. Mar 2018 #155

Over 13 million voted for him in the primaries. Not all Bernie supporters are exactly alike. jalan48 Mar 2018 #173

Discussions Me. Mar 2018 #177

I agree but it's politics so it will always be contentious. I'm working locally on the upcoming jalan48 Mar 2018 #179

A Point Of Agreement! Me. Mar 2018 #185

Cool! jalan48 Mar 2018 #207

Please think through this statement logically 86derps Mar 2018 #64

Derp. ismnotwasm Mar 2018 #69

Welcome to DU! Dennis Donovan Mar 2018 #70

DERP. nt Maven Mar 2018 #79

Hillary wanted Citizen's United overturned. MrsCoffee Mar 2018 #82

It is what rump and the kgb do, they lie straight out about everything, eventually enough Eliot Rosewater Mar 2018 #126

WHAT the FUCK! Eliot Rosewater Mar 2018 #116

As I am sure is fairly obvious GaryCnf Mar 2018 #124

I know! We've heard this shit before... and here it is again. NurseJackie Mar 2018 #129

Logically? This word, I do not think it means what you think it means. betsuni Mar 2018 #125

You understand Our Revolution is a 501c, and is not required to reveal its donors, right? emulatorloo Mar 2018 #161

Painted yourself into a moral corner Thew Mar 2018 #186

You Need 50 Million To Run For The Senate This Is The Problem Not Bernie PaulX2 Mar 2018 #83

"The money can be defeated," I hope FromMissouri Mar 2018 #184

... SidDithers Mar 2018 #86

The hatred of Bernie supporters is strong here on DU... mudstump Mar 2018 #87

Aw. NurseJackie Mar 2018 #121

Why? KPN Mar 2018 #166

What have I waked into & joined? WestwardWind Mar 2018 #90

This message was self-deleted by its author Eliot Rosewater Mar 2018 #118

Welcome cannabis_flower Mar 2018 #157

Thanks WestwardWind Mar 2018 #232

Welcome and stick around. Not every thread is like this. emulatorloo Mar 2018 #164

Thanks, that's a relief WestwardWind Mar 2018 #233

weird thread, right? FromMissouri Mar 2018 #189

Ya quite odd WestwardWind Mar 2018 #235

It Isn't About Fighting The Primary Me. Mar 2018 #249

I've been here for years... CanSocDem Mar 2018 #194

Uh-huh. Whatever. NurseJackie Mar 2018 #206

Well that's a nice welcome. WestwardWind Mar 2018 #229

You seem remarkably comfortable and "at home" already without any assistance from me... NurseJackie Mar 2018 #239

Hey Jackie. sheshe2 Mar 2018 #252

Hey there! NurseJackie Mar 2018 #255

I've been on forums for years WestwardWind Mar 2018 #279

Uh-huh. Yes. Of course. NurseJackie Mar 2018 #327

What is your deal? WestwardWind Mar 2018 #334

"You act as though I busted into your little private wedding party..." I've done no such thing. NurseJackie Mar 2018 #336

You might want to consider using the "Ignore" function Jim Lane Mar 2018 #331

Thank you very much for that WestwardWind Mar 2018 #335

You ask about the disdain for new people Jim Lane Mar 2018 #340

There is not disdain for new members, but there is a suspicion of new members who Fla Dem Mar 2018 #343

Really? I joined this site because it supports Democrats. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #222

I joined it for the same reason WestwardWind Mar 2018 #231

I wasn't being snarky actually... Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #265

Angus King? WestwardWind Mar 2018 #278

Hi! Welcome marlakay Mar 2018 #314

Thank you WestwardWind Mar 2018 #325

YEAH, MAN, DEMOCRATIC SOCIETY Maven Mar 2018 #91

You people have hang-ups, man. HANG-UPS. betsuni Mar 2018 #113

RRRRROCKKKK. Maven Mar 2018 #115

A "Democratic Society" does, or SHOULD, mean people can express their opinions. MoonRiver Mar 2018 #102

YES elleng Mar 2018 #107

Post removed Post removed Mar 2018 #119

Bernie is not a Democrat and therefore irrelevant to Democratic politics. democratisphere Mar 2018 #131

Does DU have a Bernie problem, or does Bernie have a Democrat problem? Nitram Mar 2018 #143

You do realize the exact opposite is also true? mythology Mar 2018 #149

K&R! nt Mountain Mule Mar 2018 #151

I don't have a Bernie problem as the OP alludes to, because Bernie supported the Democratic nominee still_one Mar 2018 #165

We may disagree on much GaryCnf Mar 2018 #175

DU doesn't have a Bernie problem. Some of us just don't like him and that is that. leftofcool Mar 2018 #181

Simple! NurseJackie Mar 2018 #195

+1 Jamaal510 Mar 2018 #316

More fun to make it a conspiracy by outside forces I guess. betsuni Mar 2018 #320

Right-wingers, white supremacists and anti-Semites see Sanders as a political enemy. David__77 Mar 2018 #191

That's actually not true. They see him as a useful foil for the Democratic Party stevenleser Mar 2018 #341

The 2020 positioning has officially begun. MyNameGoesHere Mar 2018 #210

Recommended. guillaumeb Mar 2018 #227

I got my years mixed up....wait...Isn't it a Ralph Nader problem?? Stuart G Mar 2018 #246

When Bernie wins the 2020 nomination, some folks here are going to lose their shit. NT aidbo Mar 2018 #253

Ha!! :-D NurseJackie Mar 2018 #259

Say it again for the people in the back. SaschaHM Mar 2018 #318

He might win a 2020 nomination for school board, or Governor. That would be fine with me. nt stevenleser Mar 2018 #268

I just ignore all this crap EricMaundry Mar 2018 #284

GOP and Russian trolls keeping the wounds of 2016 open in order to use applegrove Mar 2018 #304

Can't respond to this with fear of being hit with an alert liberal N proud Mar 2018 #313

It's not a Bernie problem. LWolf Mar 2018 #329

Killer Mike and friends - DURHAM D Mar 2018 #337

Lord! NurseJackie Mar 2018 #338

Damn, that says a lot. George II Mar 2018 #344