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ProfessorPlum

(11,410 posts)
Sun Jan 26, 2025, 01:51 PM Sunday

Democratic politicians need to act like they are trying to win popularity contests by being populists

not "obeying the norms" contests. Not "sanity" contests. Not "adult" contests.

Popularity contests. FDR wasn't a flaming radical - but he knew how to cast himself in the hero's role and ally himself with normal people.

Copy that just a little bit. I don't know why this needs to be spelled out. Even the precious donors should be able to understand that elections need to be won before anything good happens.

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yellow dahlia

(803 posts)
1. Some of it seems so obvious.
Sun Jan 26, 2025, 02:01 PM
Sunday


I ask - where is our FDR? He was smart and savvy. He was intellectually rigorous and rigorously aware. He was sophisticated and affable. I am not an FDR biographer, so my observations are limited. But it seems to me one of the things that made him successful as the leader of our country during fraught times was that he was multi-faceted. He wasn't cookie cutter. IMHO

stopdiggin

(13,232 posts)
2. gosh who would have thought of this ...
Sun Jan 26, 2025, 02:08 PM
Sunday

such handy and useful information! I'm sure all the Ds (who have obviously never considered .. ) will now trot right out there ....
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a list please - of all the politicians who have decided to run on a platform of alienating the common man .. ? We'll wait.

stopdiggin

(13,232 posts)
3. second take
Sun Jan 26, 2025, 02:22 PM
Sunday

and if was suppose to be some sort of endorsement of a Fetterman style .. ? Casting aside norms, (or 'adult', or 'sanity'?) Perhaps we're talking more - - Tlaib - - Bobert - - MTGreen - - RobertFitz K Jr.? (like these people are really taking hold ... changing the course ... )

Gosh this is gonna be fun! - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

ProfessorPlum

(11,410 posts)
5. maybe you could provide a list of all of the branches of government Democrats control. I'll wait
Sun Jan 26, 2025, 04:27 PM
Sunday

stopdiggin

(13,232 posts)
6. and of course Fetterman will turn that corner for us.
Sun Jan 26, 2025, 05:59 PM
Sunday

You might say we have difference of opinion here. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

ProfessorPlum

(11,410 posts)
7. Fetterman, for all of his weird unknown motivations, WON
Mon Jan 27, 2025, 09:59 AM
Monday

by campaigning as a populist. Many other politicians do the same, including AOC, Bernie Sanders, FDR, the late great Paul Wellstone.

stopdiggin

(13,232 posts)
8. populism is one thing
Mon Jan 27, 2025, 12:43 PM
Monday

but your original OP began by nattering around ..
"not "obeying the norms" contests. Not "sanity" contests. Not "adult" contests."

Sorry - but 1) I happen to think that sanity is relatively important in our elected officials. With current events seeming to provide more than ample ...
and 2) FDR was a long, long way from the slouching incoherent mess that is Fetterman - who does nothing more than demonstrate in bold letters, why the election of 'novelty' candidates is almost certainly a losing proposition.

But - enjoy him while you can! - - - - - - - - - - - - - --

ProfessorPlum

(11,410 posts)
9. OF COURSE sanity is important. More than anything. I voted for the sane candidate in the last election
Mon Jan 27, 2025, 06:45 PM
Monday

but that's not the thing to emphasize/rely on exclusively when it comes to winning elections.

Voltaire2

(15,083 posts)
4. Unfortunately the leadership is risk averse and will continue the game of 'not as bad as those guys'.
Sun Jan 26, 2025, 02:36 PM
Sunday

E. Warren said it best: Go Big or Go Home.

WarGamer

(16,071 posts)
10. Talk about enhancing Medicare... raising SS benefits...
Mon Jan 27, 2025, 09:26 PM
Monday

Child Care credits... real programs to lower cost of living.

Eventually... Guaranteed Income.

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