Small scale resistance,using a Bible quote

[azureblue]

I'm having some great fun this morning, posting a Bible quote in some RW forums and posts: Matthew 25: 41- 46: And reading their responses and how they try to dance around Jesus' words --

If you post this, consider a preface:

"Christians follow the teachings of Jesus. Those that refuse his words, are not. So heed this warning --"

Matthew 25: 41 - 46, the very words of Jesus:
41 “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42 For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, 43 I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.’
44 “They also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?’
45 “He will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.’
46 “Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.”

IOW Make them deny Christ. When they do, remind them of Peter, and the cock that crowed 3 times.. Use their religion against them.

[Callie1979]

1. Also, Psalms 10:2-7 "the wicked man"

2 In his arrogance the wicked man hunts down the weak, who are caught in the schemes he devises.
3 He boasts about the cravings of his heart; he blesses the greedy and reviles the LORD.
4 In his pride the wicked man does not seek him; in all his thoughts there is no room for God.
5 His ways are always prosperous; your laws are rejected by him; he sneers at all his enemies.
6 He says to himself, “Nothing will ever shake me.” He swears, “No one will ever do me harm.”
7 His mouth is full of lies and threats; trouble and evil are under his tongue.

I mean, if you're a believer you're supposed to believe ALL of it right?

[ck4829]

2. They seem to blank out on Matthew 19:24 as it is

I think it's time to just say that there is Christianity and then there is Conservative Christianity.

The latter has their bible go from Matthew 19:23, has a blank spot, and then restarts on Matthew 19:25.

They'll call being GLBTQ a sin, but they'll have nothing to say about rich people and the healthcare system stealing from the poor. Because to a Conservative Christian, I guess it's not a sin when the rich steal from the poor, the powerful steal from the powerless in direct conflict with "Thou shalt not steal"

On that note, they will also say we have the greatest healthcare system in the world but ignore that Jesus healed people for free. But they will insist it is the greatest, because we pay the most, it has to be the greatest.

They can have faith in Donald Trump and billionaires OR they can have faith in Jesus.

It's not the same religion.

[NoSheep]

10. That's like "alternative" facts.

they should not use the term "Christian" at all. Fake Christian if anything.

[ck4829]

11. You're right, they shouldn't. But this is all about compromise.

[groundloop]

15. But we don't have the 'greatest' healthcare in the world, only the most expensive.

I can't remember the exact number off the top of my head, but we're down around 13th or 14th place in terms of life expectancy and healthcare outcome. Yet we have by far the most expensive healthcare in the world, because so much of it goes to corporate profit.


AND back to the topic at hand..... what did Jesus ever say about LGBTQ people?

As far as I've ever been able to determine absolutely nothing.

[ck4829]

17. Exactly!

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It needs to be considered UNACCEPTABLE to have people saying we're a "Christian nation" when the Christ of that Christian was one who healed people for free and then turn around and have such sub-par care at such a high price.

Lying is also a sin, another reason to declare Conservative Christians as adherents of a religion separate from Christians.

[state of stupid]

28. Chrino: Christian In Name Only

[burrowowl]

35. Many of our founding fathers were deists not christians

[calimary]

32. Hey, 14 years of Catholic school, and that one (LGBTQ) never came up.

[LiberalArkie]

25. Because all wealth was given to the wealthy by god. The wealth had to come from someone so it came from

unclean people who god made poor.

[surfered]

3. The Parable of the Sheep and the Goats, ignored by most GOP supporting Christians

[multigraincracker]

4. Abortion in the Old Testament.

In Numbers, see the text for an unfaithful wife.

[Stargazer99]

13. Notice; nothing about the unfaithful husband-interesting isn't it?

[Bo Zarts]

5. Acts 9:5 (KJV)

"It is hard for thee to kick against the pricks .."

[rubbersole]

6. Throw in Ezekiel 23:20 for the book banners to explain to the librarians.

[Mustellus]

7. What the lady bishop was quoting was

Leviticus (aka "the book of the Law&quot 19, 33:

33 “‘When a foreigner resides among you in your land, do not mistreat them. 34 The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the Lord your God.

other translations read "You shall not have one law for the native born, and another law for the Sojourner. For you yourselves were sojourners in Egypt"

[evilhime]

8. But alas Faux Christians

will claim you misconstrue their truth . . . And you could also ask all those billionaires about Jesus saying "24 Then Jesus told his disciples, “If anyone would come after me, let him deny himself and take up his cross and follow me. 25 For whoever would save his life[a] will lose it, but whoever loses his life for my sake will find it. 26 For what will it profit a man if he gains the whole world and forfeits his soul? Or what shall a man give in return for his soul?

[StarryNite]

9. Well he did look after a lot of prisoners...

he set the insurrectionists free. Now they're going to go buy guns!

[Wiz Imp]

12. Excellent! I've been hammering this point for a long time.

Thanks for pointing out and quoting the best part of the Bible to throw in their faces!

[lees1975]

14. Let me introduce you to a resource that has a lot of Bible passages, interpreted in context, that do just that.

https://signalpress.blogspot.com/

Not all of the posts there are religious in nature, but a lot of them are direct refutations of Trumpism, and of the integrated right wing extremism that has created a cult out of most of conservative Evangelicalism. It was already there, in many ways. This just uses the Bible's writers to put some perspective on it.

[kiri]

16. this would be devilish...

I remind thee : "Even the Devil can quote Scripture."

BTW, I am a non-believer in gods, devils, demons, holy books, et al.
There was a SC case in 1963 that ended Bible-reading and prayer rituals in the public schools. Abington v Schempp
I was involved.

[WinstonSmith4740]

21. Awesome!

How? Were you one of the kids? I remember when this happened, and my aunt (an extremely Republican, military-wife) said, "Good! The Bible has no place in public schools." How times have changed, huh?

[colorado_ufo]

26. I have always found the prayer in schools issue mystifying.

I grew up in New Orleans, which is an extremely religious community, mostly Catholic. I went to public schools and never had prayer in schools! Catholic schools, religious schools, of course had prayer. But I had never heard of prayers in public schools! This had absolutely no effect on whether or not families were religious or their beliefs. Teaches have enough to do. I didn't even know there was such a thing as prayers in school. What a non-issue!

[ancianita]

34. Yep. Also true.

It's also true that quoting scripture to suit the goals of government isn't what Jesus meant when he was the first to proclaim the separation of church and state:

In the Gospel of Mark the additional, provocative question is asked, "Should we pay or shouldn't we?"

Jesus first called the Pharisees & Herodians hypocrites for enjoying the benefits of Roman rule but not wanting to pay for those benefits. Jesus then asked one of them to produce a Roman coin that would be suitable for paying Caesar's tax. One of them showed him a Roman coin, and he asked them whose head and inscription were on it.
They answered, "Caesar's," and he responded:
"Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's, and unto God the things that are God's".

Public schools are paid for by public taxes, and so by secular law are in the realm of the state; so Jesus would be against rendering unto the school the things that are God's. Rendering "unto God" is for religious people to do (say, reading the 10 Commandments) in their church lives, not force "things that are God's" upon the rest of the public or public schools as services of the state.

This scene is in at least two of the four New Testament Gospels.

[Mblaze]

18. After all, if you have read the Bible,

It is easy to label MAGA "Christians" as ravening wolves in sheep's clothing who follow the anti-Christ. Jesus said he will "spit them out of his mouth".

[ancianita]

19. They use their religion against themselves, and

you’re reminding them of that. Reminding them every chance we get is a good thing.

[Sailingfish]

20. Well, here you go...

Many would like the poor to keep on saying it is God’s will for them to live that way. But it is not God’s will for some to have everything and others to have nothing. That cannot be of God.”

--Archbishop Oscar Romero

When I give food to the poor, they call me a saint. When I ask why the poor have no food, they call me a communist.

--Archbishop Dom Helder Camera

[burrowowl]

36. Good men both of them

Good old liberation theology

[Blue Full Moon]

22. Yep, another good one.

The rich young man.
Gospel of Matthew 19:16–30, the Gospel of Mark 10:17–31 and the Gospel of Luke 18:18–30 in the New Testament.

They try to say the eye of a needle is the name of a city.

[Hippo_The_Pointer]

23. This is the way to go

They do not respond to facts. They do not respond to logic. But that doesn't mean we can't nudge them into seeing their own hypocrisy. Don't engage, just nudge. A few words here a few words there. No need to get into lengthy debate. No need to get into argument. I watched a lengthy set of videos on how people left a cult and one theme was that the person leaving the cult slowly started to see the hypocrisy. So keep working on those small nudges...

[JT45242]

24. Isaiah 10 is very apt -- The Poor peoples Campaign uses this scripture a lot (first 4 verses shown here)

Woe to those who make unjust laws,
to those who issue oppressive decrees,
2 to deprive the poor of their rights
and withhold justice from the oppressed of my people,
making widows their prey
and robbing the fatherless.
3 What will you do on the day of reckoning,
when disaster comes from afar?
To whom will you run for help?
Where will you leave your riches?
4 Nothing will remain but to cringe among the captives
or fall among the slain.

Pretty much hits all of teh Republican platform...

[state of stupid]

27. I am not a believer but i did read the Bible with a Strong's concordance and just took the common sense

things to heart. I have been sending these true believers packing for years. The word must
have got out because they quit coming to my door. I still get an occasional faithful follower
every now and then. I can sit and talk to them and have never had an angry confrontation
with any of them. Here are a few that apply to the times now.


King James Bible
For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders;
insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

If you are a Christian, you are part of the elect. Are you deceived?

King James Bible
They shall put you out of the synagogues: yea, the time cometh, that whosoever killeth you will think
that he doeth God service.


The Old Testament contains several warnings against false prophets. In Deuteronomy 18:20-22, God
provides a clear criterion for identifying false prophets: "But the prophet who presumes to speak a word
in My name that I have not commanded him to speak, or who speaks in the name of other gods—that
prophet must be put to death." The passage further instructs that if a prophet's predictions do not come
to pass, that prophet has spoken presumptuously.

[azureblue]

29. Folllow Up This really makes them mad

I have been posting on the Right Wing YouTube vids, and the FB posts and boy does this piss them off. Totally ties them in knot when their religion is thrown back at them. I add in "You can't call yourself a Christian, and refuse to do what Christ tells his followers to do,"

And try talking about something Trump is doing, then quoting a Bible very that refutes him..

So, if you have time, barrage the right wing posts you come across.

[Duncan Grant]

30. Best thing about this strategy? It's always valid. It always works.

If you don’t speak buy-bull, sprinkle one or two of the themes below into your “ministry”.

- Jesus is eternal, politics is of this earth, follow Christ’s example
- the Pharisees tried to deceive/trick Christ, don’t be fooled by powerful leaders
- Jesus fulfilled Old Testament prophecy, his ministry was love (it’s a New Testament)
- be able to cite “The Great Commandment”, chapter and verse (Matthew 22:34–40)
- cite the parable of the Good Samaritan

[kerry-is-my-prez]

31. Saw this on Facebook

[burrowowl]

37. Had a good chuckle with is he

a builder of towers

[Maraya1969]

33. This is great. I often go to x and Youtube and quote Jesus to the fake Christians

I think it is a good thing to do.