California Sues After Religious Hospitals Nearly Kills a Woman By Refusing Care - Thom Hartmann

[Rhiannon12866]

This is the problem with Catholic hospitals. She needed emergency medical care but because the faith-based organization refuses certain procedures on religious grounds, she nearly bled out... - Aired on 10/10/2024.

[JT45242]

1. And the Catholic church has been buying up hospitals all over the country so that they can force their religious opinion

The RCC wants to enforce its own view (with no biblical basis and no real historical basis in its own denomination) about birth control, contraception, etc. on the country by buying as many hospitals as possible.

I'll share the tangential story from my life. My sister has been with the same guy for a long time. One of his daughters frm a previous marriage has been a junkie most of her life. One time she was pregnant, she had failed court ordered drug tests during the pregnancy (because other kids were already in the system because of her drug use). She had asked for and medicaid or some other state agency had approved giving her a tubal ligation while she was in for childbirth because the new child was immediately going into the system and she did not want to have more kids that would immediately go into foster care.

Unfortunately for her, the part of KY that she lived in only had one hospital within reasonable distance for childbirth and it was owned by the catholic church. So, no tubal ligation. About 18-30 months, still a junkie, had another kid, and failed a drug test on that one too. Luckily, had moved elsewhere and got the tubal ligation.

So, at the point she wanted a tubal ligation she already had 4 kids in teh foster care system and was trying to make certain that no more went into the system. But the RCC decided for her that she should have more kids.

On a positive note, the duaghter cleaned up and was able to get 3 of the kids out of the system including the one that my sister had taken care of for about 10 years.

I don't know what problems that last kid had because his mother the drug using junkie was taking drugs. What I do know, is that the kid would not have those risks and would not have been another burden on the foster care system if the RCC hadn't played holier than thou with a junkie.

[Rhiannon12866]

3. Wow! Thanks for sharing that story...

Glad to hear that she was able to turn herself around - but still.

[Hekate]

9. Catholic hospitals are filling a niche left by the US for-profit medical system...

This crisis has been building for at least 25 years as secular hospitals close their doors, and it is our own fault.

Here’s my thoughts from a recent post
https://democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=19542193
20. People are missing one of the biggest most glaring problems: LACK OF ANY HOSPITAL AT ALL
Reply to erronis (Original post)
Mon Oct 7, 2024, 09:29 AM

Final paragraph:
Roman Catholic hospitals are filling an empty niche, something they feel called to do. That’s always been fine as long as they were one choice among several, and not the only option for hundreds of miles. But American religion coupled with American politics and wedded to capitalism has made sure that niche was wide open — and only one group stepped up.
In other words, we brought this catastrophe on ourselves, and we have to fix it. May our courage not fail.

[Joinfortmill]

2. This is why there are so many FORMER

Catholics, like me. Your religious beliefs should not kill people.

[Rhiannon12866]

4. Pretty much everyone I know from my generation feels the same way...

[mgardener]

6. Former Catholic here!

[moniss]

5. A major problem with the whole relgious exemption matter

is that they are trying to extrapolate this all the time to running a business or service organization. People should remember, but many don't, that discrimination at hospitals was very common and still persists to this day in how people of color receive treatment for example. The SC decisions of the last 2 decades have built in and fortified the "religion can do no wrong" aspect to discrimination. It should be a matter in the licensing of hospitals that you must provide the care for which your staff are qualified to perform or you lose your license. Having religious "freedom" doesn't mean you have a "right" to a hospital from which you can inflict harm to patients in need.

[Hekate]

10. Yes it is

[twodogsbarking]

7. Jesus.

[IrishAfricanAmerican]

8. If you can't provide medical care, it's time to find a new business!