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One miracle drug could create a fiscal crisis in America. Ozempic could end obesity...bankrupt Medicare, blow up state budgets and increase premiums for everyone. Its because Big Pharma is ripping us off. The drug costs $936 in the USbut nearly 10x less everywhere else.
MagaSmash
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Mosby
(17,168 posts)But it does work.
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My comment wasn't meant to be a putdown of keto or any other type of diet.. I am just very uncomfortable with any statement that implies there's an easy, one size fits all solution to losing weight and (this is a big and) keeping it off long term, that will work for everyone.
I know the keto diet can produce weight loss. I just don't think it's the kind of easy, one size fits all solution I thought that post made it sound like .To be honest, I don't believe there IS an easy, one size fits all solution to weight loss that will work perfectly for everyone. (If there was, someone would have discovered it by now, and we'd all be skinny! )
From what I understand, Ozempic and drugs like it are not a perfect solution to weight loss, either, but they do seem to be a game changer for a lot of people. That, imo, is a reason for fighting the price-gouging described in that video, not an excuse to wave the whole problem away because a type of diet that's been around for decades (and has NOT proven to be an easy,, one size fits all solution to weight loss for everyone) can supposedly fix everything.
A lot of diets can produce weight loss, but I think it's accurate to say that none of them (including) keto have been shown to work equally well for everyone, especially when it comes to maintaining weight loss long term. I felt that post was drastically oversimplifying the complex issue of weight loss, while at the same time waving away the very real problem of price gouging by pharmaceutical companies. I posted a snarky reply, because I was annoyed by both of those things.
Wonder Why
(4,453 posts)negotiated great prices with the mfgr because they could. Their prices from the lowest dose through 1mg must have been awesome because I take 2Mg/week and so they make me take two 1mg shots instead of 1 2mg shot because the 2mg/dose versions were not part of their contract because they didn't exist. It has to be cheaper for them vs everyone else because the list price is about the same for a 1mg dose pen vs a 2mg dose pen.
I lost no weight on the 1mg dose but in the past year, taking 2mg, I lost 30+ pounds. Some people have a lower cutoff point than I where the weight loss becomes useful. VA says the difference in blood sugar levels is only a couple of percent better at the higher level. Mine dropped about 17%, a significant drop.
There is no doubt in my mind that the mfgr is ripping off patients with Medicare Part D policies, patients with any other kind of prescription policy and, worse, those whose insurance won't pay for it if the use is weight control instead of diabetes.
Mosby
(17,168 posts)What conditions are being treated?