Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News Editorials & Other Articles General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search
7 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies

OAITW r.2.0

(27,753 posts)
1. I believe the Republican Medical College of Female Gynecology submitted a paper to
Thu Sep 12, 2024, 05:07 PM
Sep 12

The New England Journal of Medicine explaining this important issue. Or else, they read it on Facebook.

nature-lover

(1,660 posts)
2. To them, outrageous lies make a much better story than the sad truth.
Thu Sep 12, 2024, 05:10 PM
Sep 12

Thank you for posting. Heartbreaking situations, not callous indifference.

LetMyPeopleVote

(153,123 posts)
4. Where Trump's "execute the babies" lie comes from
Thu Sep 12, 2024, 08:51 PM
Sep 12

Treating newborn infants with serious life-threatening conditions is a specialized branch of medicine. Perinatal palliative care is a strategy that includes “options for obstetric and newborn care” that focus on “maximizing quality of life and comfort for newborns with a variety of conditions considered to be life-limiting in early infancy.” This is NOT after birth abortion.



https://www.salon.com/2024/09/11/where-trumps-execute-the-babies-lie-comes-from/

It’s estimated that less than 1% of abortions in the U.S. occur after 21 weeks of gestation. The reasons pregnant people might seek abortion care after 21 weeks is generally due to severe medical complications — such as the fetus having a fatal anomaly. In fact, when Trump is suggesting that Democrats want to “execute” babies after birth, he is referring to perinatal palliative care. .....

According to the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists (ACOG), perinatal palliative care is a strategy that includes “options for obstetric and newborn care” that focus on “maximizing quality of life and comfort for newborns with a variety of conditions considered to be life-limiting in early infancy.”

The priority in perinatal palliative care in a situation where a newborn is born with a life-limiting condition is to both ease patient suffering and honor values. What this looks like will vary depending on the life-limiting condition. Dr. Stacy Seyb, an Idaho-based maternal-fetal medicine specialist, told Salon in July that for some lethal anomalies, like holoprosencephaly, it could be keeping the patient warm, allowing them to be with their parents, and keeping them comfortable. .....

The idea that infants are being born in the third trimester of pregnancy and being aborted after birth is a “scare tactic” and “an insult to the medical profession,” Seyb said.

But as ACOG states: “At no point in the course of delivering a newborn with life-limiting conditions and subsequently providing palliative care does the obstetrician–gynecologist end the life of the newborn receiving palliative care.”

David Hackney, a Cleveland-based maternal-fetal medicine specialist, told Salon, “perinatal comfort care” often gets conflated with “abortion,” and "euthanasia.” But as ACOG emphasizes, “abortion cannot be performed after a pregnancy has ended.”

I remember that when we decided to put my father-in-law into a hospice, we met with palliative care specialists who were there to help my mother-in-law deal with the end-of-life issues. I understood the concept of palliative care and had to explain these concepts to my mother-in-law. This was not a fun job. The same concepts apply to babies born with severe medical conditions.

The claims of after birth abortions are truly offensive and are wrong. I was glad that TFG was fact checked during the debate.
6. We KNOW the MAGA causes are sinking
Fri Sep 13, 2024, 10:56 AM
Sep 13

the LOUDER the misinformation gets. When all coherence is gone and they are CALLED on their slippery dodging of questions, it's indication their ship is sinking for sure.

A great example of this is in Texas Towelie's contribution in this forum showing a melt down here by Nazi-lookalike Stephen Miller, who is screaming as interviewer doesn't let him wriggle away from answering a question.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/132238762

Latest Discussions»Issue Forums»Liberal YouTubers»Where Did MAGA's 'Post-Bi...