NYC Mayor Mamdani's candidates prevail with bold ideas that Democrats say they can win on - The 11th Hour - MS NOW

[Rhiannon12866]

NYC Mayor Zohran Mamdani is celebrating key wins in Tuesday’s Congressional primaries, which saw three of his endorsed candidates come out victorious. And Fmr. Rep. Max Rose (D-NY) says Democrats can unify around the kind of bold ideas those progressive candidates ran on: “it’s not something we should be scared of as a party.” - Aired on 06/23/2026.

[creeksneakers2]

1. We can't win on socialism in most places

And where we do the Republicans will smear us all with it. https://www.newsweek.com/how-popular-is-socialism-what-polls-show-as-democrats-condemn-it-11090485

The people pushing this don't give a damn if we lose.

[DemocracyForever]

2. The same pro GOP rubish the media has pushed for years

Dems efforts to help real people with issues like affordability, having clean air to breathe, clean water to drink, earning a living wage, being able to afford to buy a home are called "socialism" but the GOP's big tax cuts for billionaires and big corporations and GOP controlled SCOTUS allowing unlimited campaign contributions from billionaires and big corporations to buy elections are perfectly fine. We the people are on to this hypocrisy.

[creeksneakers2]

4. I'm not the one calling those things Socialism

And its not the billionaires either. It Mamdani and the people who call themselves "progressives." You are not "the people." You are part of a minority of them. Call them something else.

[DemocracyForever]

7. Another case of pro GOP media

helping the GOP by attacking policies that actually help real people while they ignore the fascism the GOP is trying to force on our country.

[creeksneakers2]

8. Media or not

People don't like socialism those kooks in NYC are hurting the Democrats at a time when they they are the only thing that stands between us and total Fascism.

[DemocracyForever]

11. People dislike Trump/GOP fascism more

The "socialism" attack that the Trump/GOP fascists is a smokescreen to distract from their plan to turn our country into a Nazi dictatorship. It also shows that they have no interest in helping real people with real issues. The Trump/GOP fascists are only interested in consolidating power and helping their billionaire and big corporation buddies and not in helping real people. The pro GOP media is helping them do their dirty work.

[creeksneakers2]

12. Their attack will work with some people

And will motivate their base.

[DemocracyForever]

15. Identifying Trump/GOP as fascist dictators

trying to kill American democracy will motivate the larger majority who don't like the Trump/GOP fascist dictatorship behavior to vote and save American democracy.

[creeksneakers2]

16. I hope so

Why offset that?

[DemocracyForever]

3. The article you site is from 11/25

Things have changed dramatically since then with Trump's unconstitutional tariffs and illegal and unconstitutional Iran war driving up the cost of everything, Trump's taking government stakes in a number of big companies (this follows in Hitler's footsteps), Trump's shredding of the constitution, Trump's attacks on blue cities like Minneapolis, Trump's hatred of immigrants and the list goes on.

In addition, the democratic grass roots is fed up with the Dem establishment's refusal to stand up to the anti democracy, anti working people, anti democracy GOP by turning the page and going along to get along. This Democratic establishment strategy has brought our country to the brink of becoming a Nazi dictatorship. It's time for this failed strategy to end.

[creeksneakers2]

5. I'm very angry when those lies are told about Democrats.

They are doing all the can and those lies hurt us at the polls and in fundraising. Tell me a reasonable thing Democrats could be doing but aren't? So far the people telling that lie either haven't been able to answer at all or they suggest some lethally unpopular progressive idea like defunding the police. The grass roots is turning against us because they keep being lied to by people who call themselves "progressives."

The people should be turning against Republicans and TOWARD Democrats. The far lefties who made us lose in 2,000 and 2016 are working on doing it again. And this time the result will be full blown Fascism and not fair elections every again.

Show me a poll with widespread support for socialism if you think its changed.

[DemocracyForever]

6. Dem grassroots don't see leadership fighting back

against Trump/GOP and they're mad about it. This grass roots dissatisfaction runs far and wide and its why we're beginning to see dem incumbents starting to lose primaries. Leadership's go along to get along strategy of the past 25 years has brought our country to the brink of becoming a Nazi dictatorship. The Nader/Putin puppet Stein crowd have an agenda that's separate from the dem grass roots that's also hurting dems overall.

[creeksneakers2]

9. Those people in the grass roots are being deceived by progressives.

Democrats have done all they can.

[DemocracyForever]

10. That's just not correct

One particular example is last year when enough Senate democrats bowed in order to reopen the government while not continuing to fight to stop the catastrophic cuts in Medicaid and the subsidies for Obamacare which have now resulted in skyrocketed healthcare costs forcing many families to drop their health insurance because they can no longer afford it.. Of course the cave that started this entire nightmare was when not 1 Senate dem would co-sponsor the Congressional Black Caucus's challenge to the fraudulent Florida 2000 vote count. You can be rest assured that had W been behind by 537 votes with 160,000 votes located in heavily republican voting Florida counties the GOP Senators would've fought tooth and nail to have those uncounted votes counted. These are just a couple of examples. The dems keep bringing slingshots to the fight while the repugs are bringing AK-47s. This must stop. This is why the dem grassroots is angry with the dem leadership.

[creeksneakers2]

13. If you are talking about what I think you are

There were only 7 or so who caved. Why are you blaming the entire party and using the incident to characterize? Do you have proof the 2000 vote count in FL was fraudulent? Then it should have been challenged in FL. The Democrats are doing what they think works best.

[DemocracyForever]

14. The 2000 vote count was challenged in Florida

The Florida Supreme court ruled to count the uncounted Florida votes. Then Bush ran to his father's GOP cronies on the SCOTUS who stopped the legal Florida vote count with their unconstitutional Bush vs Gore ruling. In response to this, the Congressional Black Caucus filed a challenge to the fraudulent Florida vote count. Not 1 Senate democrat would co-sponsor the Congressional Black Caucus's challenge to the fraudulent Florida vote count. Instead, Senate democrats hid in their cushy, ivory Washington towers and let Bush steal the 2000 election. For the record, 160,000 legally cast Florida ballots located in the largest and most heavily democratic voting counties now sit uncounted in the Florida archives because of Senate democrats refusal to act. You can be rest assured as I noted previously that had the circumstances been reversed, GOP Senators would've fought tooth and nail to have 160,000 uncounted republican ballots located in heavily republican voting counties in Florida counted.
In addition, because the Senate dems who caved on the government shut down that was an effort to fight to restore the Obamacare subsidies, millions of low income Americans are now unable to afford to be health insurance.
Again dems not fighting back are what's brought out country to the verge of becoming a Nazi dictatorship. This clearly failed dem strategy must end.

[creeksneakers2]

17. We are doing all we can

Got a link about these 160,000 uncounted ballots? I followed the story at the time and never heard about that. Nothing on Google either.

Unfortunately, around 7 Democrats caved on the obama care hold out. Blaming them all is dishonest

[DemocracyForever]

18. 160,000 uncounted Florida 2000 votes was very widely reported

FYI, 15 years out of the 24 years I spent working on dem election campaigns were spent in Florida working under the laws that were on the books in Florida in 2000. This was my old stomping ground. These uncounted ballots are now in the Florida archives. Scalia even admitted when he issued the stay to stop the Florida 2000 vote count that he did it to help Bush. The entire world knew that the uncounted Florida votes were located in the largest and most heavily democratic voting counties in Florida and that they favored Al Gore.
The Obamacare subsidy cave is just 1 example. Too many dems voted for the extremist GOP SCOTUS judges that are now taking fundamental rights away. The list goes on.

[creeksneakers2]

19. I think you are mistaken

Lots of progressives look for places to point fingers so they don't have do discuss the harm they did in 2000.

[DemocracyForever]

20. I spent 15 years working on Florida election campaigns

so I know first hand what happened there. I'm curious to know what your personal Florida election campaign experience is? In addition, the University of Michigan's 2000 Florida ballots project documents, "In the United States presidential election of November 2000, approximately 180,000 ballots in Florida's 67 counties were uncertified because they failed to register a "valid" vote for president." According to Florida election law in 2000, just because the counting machines could not read these ballots, they still contained legal votes that Florida election law required be counted. These ballots were not counted because of Jeb Bush, Katherine Harris and the GOP controlled SCOTUS. I know this based on my personal Florida election campaign experience.

Also please don't lump today's progressive dems in with what Nader did in 2000. Today's progressive dems are actually dems. Nader has never been a dem and he ran on the Green party ticket in 2000 so he wasn't a dem then either. Nader ran in 2000 to help Bush and to cost Gore the election

The points I've raised in this thread are because of my actual personal Florida election campaign experience along with pointing out ugly facts that too many don't want to deal with.