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Related: About this forumReport from Pennsylvania: Marc Lamont Hill on Harris's Closing Speech & Dangers of a Trump Victory
Vice President Kamala Harris made her closing argument Tuesday in a major speech at the Ellipse in Washington, D.C., scene of the Trump rally in 2021 that led to the Capitol riot. Harris described Trump as a tyrant who would shred the rule of law if given another four years in office. The Republican campaign, meanwhile, is still dealing with fallout from Sunday's rally at Madison Square Garden in New York, where speakers made a series of racist and dehumanizing remarks about Puerto Ricans, Black people, Palestinians and more. For more on the state of the race with less than a week to go before Election Day, we speak with journalist, author and academic Marc Lamont Hill, who says despite Kamala Harris's flaws, her message to voters is clear: "Donald Trump is worse." Hill also discusses President Joe Biden's role in the Democratic campaign, the exaggerated migration of Black men to the Republican camp and the threat of violence if Trump loses again. "No one is safe in a Trump presidency. No one is safe the day after a Trump loss," says Hill.
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Report from Pennsylvania: Marc Lamont Hill on Harris's Closing Speech & Dangers of a Trump Victory (Original Post)
Uncle Joe
Oct 30
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Ocelot II
(120,731 posts)1. "Donald Trump is worse." Wow, what an endorsement.
Thanks a bunch, Democracy Not.
Despite her flaws ..Powerful endorsement from Marc NOT. 🤦♀️
sheshe2
(87,364 posts)2. "Despite her flaws"
That is priceless coming from Marc with all his flaws:
Hill expressed support for the Green Party in the 2016 US presidential election. Of candidates Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton, he stated: "I would rather have Trump be president for four years and build a real left-wing movement that can get us what we deserve as a people, than to let Hillary be president and we stay locked in the same space where we don't get what we want."
On November 28, 2018, while speaking in a meeting at the UN marking the International Day of Solidarity with the Palestinian People,[25] Hill said: "We have an opportunity to not just offer solidarity in words but to commit to political action, grass-roots action, local action and international action that will give us what justice requires and that is a free Palestine from the river to the sea."[26][2][27] The Anti-Defamation League alleged that the phrase "river to the sea" is code, often used by Hamas, for the destruction of Israel.
Fired from CNN
The firing provoked strongly opposing opinions. The move was criticized by pro-Palestinian activists, who accused the network of caving to pressure from pro-Israeli groups.[25] Aymann Ismail of Slate magazine said the decision set a "dangerous precedent" which was "another step toward recasting all speech about Israel's brutality as anti-Semitism".[34] Glenn Greenwald remarked that Hill's firing "is a major defeat for the right to advocate for Palestinian rights, to freely critique the Israeli government, and for the ability of journalism and public discourse in the U.S. generally to accommodate dissent."[35] Bentley Addison of The Forward argued that advocating for Palestine is not necessarily anti-Semitic but said that "The fact that Hill used the rhetoric of groups that are violently anti-Semitic is a real problem, and the fact that he seems to advocate violent resistance against Israel should give pause to every supporter of a peaceful outcome to the conflict."
Friends with Louis Farrakhan!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marc_Lamont_Hill
Friends with Louis Farrakhan!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marc_Lamont_Hill
Uncle Joe
(60,113 posts)3. This is 2024, not 2016, just ask Liz Cheney
Liz Cheney says she regrets years-long support for Donald Trump
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/10/13/liz-cheney-regrets-supporting-donald-trump/75660732007/
Regarding "From the river to the sea"
An early Zionist slogan envisaged statehood extending over the two banks of the Jordan river, and when that vision proved impractical, it was substituted by the idea of a Greater Israel, an entity conceived as extending from the Jordan to the sea.[10][11] The Palestinian phrase has also been used by Israeli politicians. The 1977 election manifesto of the right-wing Israeli Likud party said: "Between the sea and the Jordan there will only be Israeli sovereignty."[12][13][14] Similar wording, such as referring to the area "west of the Jordan river", has also been used more recently by other Israeli politicians,[3] including Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu on 18 January 2024.[15] Some countries have considered criminalizing Palestinian but not Israeli use of the phrase.[16][17]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/From_the_river_to_the_sea#:~:text=An%20early%20Zionist%20slogan%20envisaged,been%20used%20by%20Israeli%20politicians.
I believe Professor Omer Bartov has the best and most logical solution to the tragedy of Israel and Palestine.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/10/13/liz-cheney-regrets-supporting-donald-trump/75660732007/
Regarding "From the river to the sea"
An early Zionist slogan envisaged statehood extending over the two banks of the Jordan river, and when that vision proved impractical, it was substituted by the idea of a Greater Israel, an entity conceived as extending from the Jordan to the sea.[10][11] The Palestinian phrase has also been used by Israeli politicians. The 1977 election manifesto of the right-wing Israeli Likud party said: "Between the sea and the Jordan there will only be Israeli sovereignty."[12][13][14] Similar wording, such as referring to the area "west of the Jordan river", has also been used more recently by other Israeli politicians,[3] including Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu on 18 January 2024.[15] Some countries have considered criminalizing Palestinian but not Israeli use of the phrase.[16][17]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/From_the_river_to_the_sea#:~:text=An%20early%20Zionist%20slogan%20envisaged,been%20used%20by%20Israeli%20politicians.
I believe Professor Omer Bartov has the best and most logical solution to the tragedy of Israel and Palestine.
sheshe2
(87,364 posts)4. lol...another link to Democracy Not
From your Wiki link.
On 7 November 2023, United States Representative Rashida Tlaib was censured by the House of Representatives in part for using the phrase,[3][58] which Tlaib defended as "an aspirational call for freedom, human rights and peaceful coexistence, not death, destruction or hate". Before the vote, House Democratic leader Hakeem Jeffries criticized the phrase as something which is "widely understood as calling for the complete destruction of Israel".[59] On 8 November 2023, the White House condemned Tlaib for using the phrase. White House Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre said that "when it comes to the phrase that was used, 'from the river to the sea,' it is divisive, it is hurtful, many find it hurtful and many find it antisemitic," and added that the White House "categorically reject[s] applying the term to the (2023 IsraelHamas) conflict."[60]
Uncle Joe
(60,113 posts)6. I also provided links to Wikipedia; which you found good enough to use, and USA Today.
Not to mention you never addressed the merits of the Professor's argument, you could watch him on CNN or MSNBC but it won't change his message.
sheshe2
(87,364 posts)7. I had to scroll to the bottom to find anything useful.
I trust both Jefferies and the WH and they were right to censor Tlaib for using the term.