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Rhiannon12866

(222,500 posts)
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 05:59 PM Oct 24

'You're all so embarrassing': Nicolle Wallace on top Republicans flip-floping on Donald Trump - Deadline - MSNBC



Charlie Sykes, MSNBC Columnist and Contributor, and Amanda Carpenter, Writer and Editor of Protect Democracy, join Nicolle Wallace with a closer look at all of the key figures of today’s Republican Party who could have tried to stop Donald Trump both before and after they showed their true feelings about the man who now rules their party with an iron fist. - Aired on 10/24/2024.
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Uncle Joe

(60,171 posts)
1. Watch Niki Haley shake her head in a negative fashion while stating
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 06:11 PM
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that Donald Trump has her strong endorsment, and LIndsey Graham does it as well but more subtlety, Ted Cruz looks down just to see if his balls are still there.



Thanks for the thread Rhiannon

Rhiannon12866

(222,500 posts)
2. According to Liz Cheney's book, Republicans went along with TFG's subversion in 2020 because they were scared
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 06:17 PM
Oct 24

Now that he's out of office and is a convicted felon also convicted of sexual assault, what is their excuse now??

Uncle Joe

(60,171 posts)
3. I believe that if you abandon your moral compass,
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 06:29 PM
Oct 24

unless you stumble across it in the dark through some internal earth shaking type epiphany, you revert back to the first two stages of moral development, reward and punishment become your preeminent and almost exclusive concerns.

You lose your moral courage along with your moral compass.

That's my take on it anyway.



Rhiannon12866

(222,500 posts)
4. You'd think that, at this point, experienced members of Congress would know better
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 06:44 PM
Oct 24

On the other hand, TFG's only experience was working for his father who made him vice president of his company while other employees did the work. And when he tried running casinos on his own, they all failed, despite his father's millions in an effort to bail him out. And this is the guy who Republicans support to run the largest economy in the world?! Coincidentally, President Obama is making this point right now.

Uncle Joe

(60,171 posts)
5. I believe this thread touches on the phenomena
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 07:07 PM
Oct 24
99% of the problem.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100219600927

That's what "reality" T.V. programming of The Apprentice television series did for *rump's image, the illusion of a successful businessperson over a 14 year period of time while in fact he was a failure and incompetent. They promoted him as a sound or worthy judge of good business practices.

That was a soft propaganda lie to tens of millions of Americans over that 14 year time span, particularly for people that didn't live in New York and weren't familiar with *rump.

I believe some of the makers of that T.V. program have recently stated that they regretted their part in it.

I believe that so far enduring propaganda lie is what the backbone challenged "experienced Republican members of the Congress that should know better" are still afraid of dealing with.



Rhiannon12866

(222,500 posts)
7. Good point, though it appears to have been a game show to me and not to be taken seriously
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 07:54 PM
Oct 24

At the very least, it was certainly scripted, and from what we've heard recently, TFG was severely challenged just trying to deal with that. But you're right, this fiction no doubt had an effect on those viewers gullible to believe that this was "real life!"

My first view of him was as a guest on with David Letterman. I almost changed the channel since this guest was an obvious jerk. He was going on to Dave about "the Mosque at Ground Zero" - how inappropriate it was after 9/11 and expressing hate. However Dave, who repeatedly claimed to know nothing about politics, explained that what was proposed was a community center and put this hateful guest in his place. Not to mention, this offensive guy was also selling neckties - and all Dave had to do was turn them over and announce that they were "Made in China."

usaf-vet

(6,936 posts)
6. Every time I see Charlie Sykes, I am reminded that he was at the forefront of supporting Scott Walker and others......
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 07:07 PM
Oct 24

... while they turned this once purple state into a gerrymander nightmare that we still suffer from. The tides have turned slightly toward the better with the recent statewide election of a liberal justice to the Wisconsin State Supreme Court.

I'm not ready to consider Charlie Sykes one of the good guys, as I'm not willing to let Mitch McConnell try to get away with his recent "warning" that TSF is a dangerous man. The dangerous man McConnell helped TSF stack the SCOTUS with righting hacks.

Every time I see Charlie Sykes, I am reminded that he was at the forefront of supporting Scott Walker and others in gaining the seat of power, which they used to hurt others. Need proof? Consider Dobbs! Fifty years of women being able to make their own decisions about their bodies.

Skyes and McConnell helped that to happen.

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