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Rhiannon12866

(222,100 posts)
Wed Oct 16, 2024, 02:40 AM Oct 16

'For him to use it was blasphemous': Rufus Wainwright on Trump playing 'Hallelujah' at town hall - The 11th Hour - MSNBC



Singer-songwriter Rufus Wainwright says he was "mortified" when Trump played his 'Hallelujah' cover, adding it was the "height of blasphemy." He joins Stephanie Ruhle to discuss. - Aired on 10/15/2024.
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Rhiannon12866

(222,100 posts)
2. Everything is about him, no one else - wants, needs or feelings - resonates with him at all
Wed Oct 16, 2024, 03:03 AM
Oct 16

And there are those who would vote for him to lead the country??

emulatorloo

(45,566 posts)
3. Off topic, but can't we get the world to understand "Hallelujah" is about hot sex, not chuchgoing?
Wed Oct 16, 2024, 04:49 AM
Oct 16
Your faith was strong but you needed proof
You saw her bathing on the roof
Her beauty and the moonlight overthrew you
She tied you to a kitchen chair
She broke your throne, and she cut your hair
And from your lips she drew the Hallelujah

no_hypocrisy

(48,781 posts)
4. Not necessarily.
Wed Oct 16, 2024, 05:07 AM
Oct 16

Biblical references:

1. David (Old Testament) was corrupted by viewing Bathsheba bathing on a roof. He sent her General Husband into battle, knowing he'd be killed. Then he could marry Bathsheba free and clear. David went on to be King of Israel due to his faith.

2. Delilah (Old Testament) eliciting from Samson the secret of his strength. She made him trust her enough to lay down on her lap and sleep. And she cut his hair, rendering him weak and helpless. And he kept his faith notwithstanding.

emulatorloo

(45,566 posts)
5. 2. In other words the woman in the song gives the man a really strong devastating orgasm
Wed Oct 16, 2024, 05:08 AM
Oct 16

So intense that he screams out Hallelujah.

Cohen was a genius and sure knew how to write songs about passion.



no_hypocrisy

(48,781 posts)
6. Not necessarily.
Wed Oct 16, 2024, 05:14 AM
Oct 16

The lyrics could be interpreted as a man who has faced incalculable challenges and corruption still turns to his faith in order to be cleansed.

You have your interpretation and I have another.

emulatorloo

(45,566 posts)
7. Or came really really hard using 'religious' metaphorical language. Thst's the genius of Leonard Cohen.
Wed Oct 16, 2024, 05:17 AM
Oct 16

Brilliant song.

On edit: it can most definitely be both yours and my interpretation at the very same time. He’s such an amazing poet!

On that we both probably agree.

emulatorloo

(45,566 posts)
10. So many beautiful interpretations
Wed Oct 16, 2024, 08:18 AM
Oct 16


Probably my favorite interpretation:



Probably my wife’s favorite, it is so lovely too



Bernardo de La Paz

(50,898 posts)
9. That's the double entendre genius of Cohen's writing about passion. Both interpretations are applicable
Wed Oct 16, 2024, 05:35 AM
Oct 16

Regardless, if you listen carefully to music -- especially lyrics from the 20s and the 50s through 70s and more -- it is replete with double entendres. From so-called "race records" (early recorded black music) through Led Zeppelin and more. It's fun to listen for them, or recognize them, even if sometimes the double is only in your imagination!
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