'Crazy-making': JD Vance puts on gaslighting clinic during debate - All In - MSNBC

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"JD Vance lies with such ease, so smoothly that even when you're paying attention and you know the score, sometimes you don't even know you're being lied to," says Chris Hayes. "It drives me insane." The Atlantic’s Adam Serwer joins to discuss. - Aired on 10/03/2024.

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1. Fun fact: Usha Chilokura (almost) means "flee - what madness!" in Spanish

I realize she's not Hispanic - but the coincidence is just too delicious for those of us who do speak Spanish.

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2. Yikes! LOL! Hispanic voters need to point that out!

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3. They really should.

Do you know why Repugs insist on emphasizing the 'mala' in Kamala?

Because RW Cubans have informed them that mala means 'malicious woman' in Spanish - and they've been weaponizing that coincidence among Hispanic voters, believe you me.

Repugs are very good at 'schoolyard' politics - the art of shaming/embarrassing your opponent (or trying to, anyway) by using childish taunts.

Well, two can play that game - and we really should, up to a point, because politics is pedagogy.

Candidates and parties that best appeal to the inner child in people (especially low-information voters - who, sadly, are the majority in most democracies), often win.

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4. Wow! I did not know that!

They did offer Spanish when I was in high school, but they had started teaching us French in Junior High since we're in the Northeast, near Canada.

And I have no clue why Cubans (or anyone else with close ties to immigrants) could possibly support TFG/Vance and their anti-immigrant policy - they even want to deport legal immigrants!

And, as I've said before - none of us would be here if it wasn't for immigrants. My mother's parents came from Poland and my Dad's paternal grandparents came from Ireland. And TFG - and two out of his three wives! - are no exception!

Thanks for the information!

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5. You're welcome. It is what it is.

And a hat tip to the Lincoln Project on that point - since they've been great at fighting fire with fire when it comes to GOPee schoolyard insults.

Gov. Walz, too, has proven very adept at mixing it up in that sense - especially with that "weirdo" Vance.

When they sling mud - you gotta be ready to get your hands dirty yourself (again, up to a point).

And thanks for sharing that about your family heritage. I, too, am part Polish (but not part Irish, sorry to say).

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6. I certainly agree that the Lincoln Project is doing an excellent job - everyone needs to see their amazing ads!

Plus, I also agree that Tim Walz was one inspired choice!

My mother used to say that her parents "came over on the last boat" - arrived at Ellis Island from Poland in 1912 as young people, eventually met and married here. The other quarter of my heritage is Dutch - my paternal grandmother's ancestors arrived here in the 1600s (my grandmother's aunt commissioned a book which traced them all the way back and they were here to participate in the American Revolution) - but they still qualify as immigrants, everyone here now has an immigration story.

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7. Wonderful family story. Thank you!

My Polish great-grandmother was Jewish. She was raped at 12 by the Tsar's goons (this was in what is now E. Poland - then part of Russia) - and in all her 86 years, she never recovered psychologically.

When I read of similar atrocities by Putin's goons in Ukraine, especially in the first year of the war, it immediately reminded me of what Great-Grandma Sofia went through.

I really don't believe in Hell - but if I'm wrong about that, that line certainly got a lot longer over the past couple of years (and I include Bibi's goons in that assessment).

My other great-grandparents were from Italy (Piedmont), France, Spain and Bulgaria. Enough tragedy and lost opportunity among them for a Russian novel, I dare say.

Qué será.