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Rhiannon12866

(217,663 posts)
Mon Aug 12, 2024, 11:55 PM Aug 12

Fmr. McCain staffer: Republican Party 'worth saving' from Trump - The Last Word - MSNBC



Paul Hickman, former State Director for Senator John McCain, joins MSNBC’s Ali Velshi to discuss why he and other Republican leaders in Arizona have joined Republicans for Harris to help mobilize Republican voters to put “country over party” in defeating Donald Trump and how he thinks Republicans can reclaim their party from Trump. - Aired on 08/12/2024.
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Fmr. McCain staffer: Republican Party 'worth saving' from Trump - The Last Word - MSNBC (Original Post) Rhiannon12866 Aug 12 OP
That party suicided long ago. RobertDevereaux Aug 12 #1
They could go back and take on the name of "The Know Nothing Party" of 1856 Rhiannon12866 Aug 13 #4
Nah.... Let it die instead Blue Owl Aug 12 #2
They can only do that if a substantial amount of the party abandons the current one entirely ColinC Aug 13 #3
the GOP stunk it up long before Trump arrived on the scene Skittles Aug 13 #5
It's said that the downfall began with Reagan and I clearly was not a fan after his sabotage of President Carter Rhiannon12866 Aug 13 #6
alas, Reagan made greed and ignorance fashionable Skittles Aug 13 #8
Agreed, it's just that Reagan wasn't as obviously anti-American as TFG, but he did damage that still exists today Rhiannon12866 Aug 13 #9
Exactly greed became a virtue instead of a vice burrowowl Aug 13 #17
THAT political party owes us all. czarjak Aug 13 #7
They made too many deals with too many devils to survive, there is no going back Warpy Aug 13 #10
The Republican party is no longer the party of John McCain, let alone Lincoln Rhiannon12866 Aug 13 #13
The Republican Party was shit angrychair Aug 13 #11
The only part of the GQP that's worth saving Tansy_Gold Aug 13 #12
Agreed, the actual Republicans are leaving or gone, John McCain is gone, Mitt Romney is leaving along with many others Rhiannon12866 Aug 13 #14
So you hitched your wagon to the star. Demobrat Aug 13 #15
We have a really good chance to retake the House since so many Republican Reps. have "retired." Rhiannon12866 Aug 13 #16

ColinC

(10,104 posts)
3. They can only do that if a substantial amount of the party abandons the current one entirely
Tue Aug 13, 2024, 12:00 AM
Aug 13

And supports the democrats. Otherwise they are goners.

Skittles

(157,174 posts)
5. the GOP stunk it up long before Trump arrived on the scene
Tue Aug 13, 2024, 12:31 AM
Aug 13

I cannot even remember a time when they put "country over party", and I am a certified geezer.

Rhiannon12866

(217,663 posts)
6. It's said that the downfall began with Reagan and I clearly was not a fan after his sabotage of President Carter
Tue Aug 13, 2024, 12:40 AM
Aug 13

Even so, his acts don't even begin to compare with the criminal acts of TFG - Reagan supported immigration, was extremely tough on Gorbachev and Russia (the former USSR) and joined all the other living former presidents (Carter and Ford) in supporting President Clinton's 1994 Assault Weapons Ban.

Skittles

(157,174 posts)
8. alas, Reagan made greed and ignorance fashionable
Tue Aug 13, 2024, 12:43 AM
Aug 13

America has never been the same, his 'trickle down" bullshit was just the 1% pissing on the real workers

Rhiannon12866

(217,663 posts)
9. Agreed, it's just that Reagan wasn't as obviously anti-American as TFG, but he did damage that still exists today
Tue Aug 13, 2024, 12:45 AM
Aug 13

burrowowl

(17,922 posts)
17. Exactly greed became a virtue instead of a vice
Tue Aug 13, 2024, 06:47 AM
Aug 13

under his rule. And Iran-contra where he and bush let 200,000 to 250,000 Guatemalan indigenous people be killed.

Warpy

(112,875 posts)
10. They made too many deals with too many devils to survive, there is no going back
Tue Aug 13, 2024, 01:00 AM
Aug 13

once the devils have taken over so completely.

It really needs to burn itself down because trying to purge the crooks, the white power bigots, and all those fundagelicals destroy it even faster, not that they'd be willing to write the votes off, devils or not.

Rhiannon12866

(217,663 posts)
13. The Republican party is no longer the party of John McCain, let alone Lincoln
Tue Aug 13, 2024, 02:07 AM
Aug 13

It's full of the criminals who support TFG over our Democratic Republic and the American people. It's now the criminal party of TFG - until they decide they don't need him anymore.

Tansy_Gold

(18,027 posts)
12. The only part of the GQP that's worth saving
Tue Aug 13, 2024, 02:01 AM
Aug 13

is the RINO part -- the tiny sliver that calls themselves "Republican" out of habit or political necessity but are really closer to centrist Democrats on some/many policy issues.

Today's GQP needs to die and be buried, never to be resurrected.

Rhiannon12866

(217,663 posts)
14. Agreed, the actual Republicans are leaving or gone, John McCain is gone, Mitt Romney is leaving along with many others
Tue Aug 13, 2024, 02:15 AM
Aug 13

Leaving few Republicans left to vote for, it's said that it's now "a cult of personality," who happens to be a convicted felon who attempted to overthrow the government. When he's gone, there are only fellow criminals left.

Demobrat

(9,631 posts)
15. So you hitched your wagon to the star.
Tue Aug 13, 2024, 02:44 AM
Aug 13

But he turned out to be the corpse on the drawing room floor. So now you’re backpedaling like crazy. I suspect we’re going to be seeing a lot of that in the near future.

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