'These guys are tied to it': Trump and Project 2025 - The 11th Hour - MSNBC

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The Trump campaign has been actively trying to distance the ticket from the right-wing plan for a second Trump term. But at his press conference, Trump echoed a Project 2025 plan to limit access to the abortion pill. And connections between Trump, Vance and Heritage Foundation President Kevin D. Roberts keep coming up. Bob Torricelli and Tim Miller join. - Aired on 08/08/2024.

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1. And "Unhumans" the far, far, far right dystopian vision of fascism saving the world:

Unhumans:
Forward by Bannon,
Blurbed by J.D. Vance, Don Jr., and Tucker Carlson, among others.

Opinion
Michelle Goldberg
JD Vance Just Blurbed a Book Arguing That Progressives Are Subhuman
Aug. 5, 2024

Paywall free link to NYTimes
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/05/opinion/jd-vance-fascism-unhumans.html?unlocked_article_code=1.Bk4.xGes.1_ONuyrQ-M2p&smid=url-share

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“Unhumans,” an anti-democratic screed that Posobiec co-wrote with the professional ghostwriter Joshua Lisec, comes with endorsements from some of the most influential people in Republican politics, including, most significantly, vice-presidential candidate JD Vance.

As they tell it, modern progressivism is just the latest incarnation of an ancient evil dating back to the late Roman Republic and continuing through the French Revolution and Communism to today. Often, they write, “great men of means” are required to crush this scourge. The contempt for democracy in “Unhumans” is not subtle. “Our study of history has brought us to this conclusion: Democracy has never worked to protect innocents from the unhumans,” write Posobiec and Lisec.

One of their book’s heroes is the Spanish dictator Francisco Franco, who overthrew the democratic Second Spanish Republic in the country’s 1930s civil war. The authors call him a “great man of history” and compare him to George Washington. They quote him on what doesn’t work against the unhuman threat: “We do not believe in government through the voting booth. The Spanish national will was never freely expressed through the ballot box.”

Nakedly authoritarian ideas like this one are not uncommon in the dank corners of the reactionary internet, or among the sort of groups that led the Jan. 6 insurrection. “Unhumans” lauds Augusto Pinochet, leader of the Chilean military junta who led a coup against Salvador Allende’s elected government in 1973, ushering in a reign of torture and repression that involved tossing political enemies from helicopters.

Pinochet-inspired helicopter memes have been common in the MAGA movement for years. And as the historian David Austin Walsh wrote last year, there’s long been a cult of Franco on the right. Nevertheless, it’s extremely unusual for a candidate for vice president of the United States to openly align himself with autocratic terror.
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2. Incredible. The more we hear, the more evident it seems that these nuts would be happier living in the "Dark Ages."

At least that was Thom Hartmann's conclusion yesterday - and they want to bring the rest of us Americans with them.

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3. Thom was spot on.

Once unprovable theory is that are essentially attracted to the notion of power and violence. As long as the powerful refuse to user their power to benefit anyone but themselves, it's AOK.
violent means of "overthrow. "As long as violence is involved, all good for bringing on board.),:

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4. Well, TFG is certainly not opposed to violence, he was just boasting about the "crowd size" on January 6th

Giving no thought to the 5 who died on that day or the lives of over 100 (Capitol and Metropolitan Police) who were gravely injured. And we know that he sat there for over 3 hours, happily watching the violence on TV, ignoring the desperate messages from Congress members, his associates, even Fox "News" hosts and members of his family, imploring him to tell the rioters to go home. And he has no compunctions about attacking and attempting to incite violence towards his perceived "enemies," AGs, judges, court staff - and even their families.