Is Florida in play for 2024?

[peppertree]

And I'm not sure Cheetolino can count on deSantis to steal it for him this time.

[ColinC]

1. Yes

[peppertree]

3. A 'Is-it-hot-in-Florida-right-now' yes.

Biden only lost the Sunshine State by 3% - and this year, the abortion rights and pot initiatives have got Repugs running scared.

Plus, my understanding is that many in the Cuban-American community are disappointed that Cheeto didn't invade Cuba - like he promised them to in his first (and only) term.

But then, I could've told them that: No Republican will ever effect regime change in Cuba - because they know that as long as los Comunistas are in Havana, it keeps hundreds of thousands of Cuban-Americans voting Republican on an almost-Pavlovian reflex.

And in a crucial stare like Florida, no less.

[Crowman2009]

5. I don't understand why they would vote for the orange bastard considering that he's buddies with Putin...

...and that Putin is buddies with the communist regime in Cuba.

[peppertree]

6. Sadly, a lot of it goes back to resentment over the Bay of Pigs - but mostly among older Cuban-Americans

Ironically, they should be grateful to Castro - in a way.

Had Castro failed, they would've stayed in what after all is a 3rd-world Latin American country - which, under a RW regime, would've surely joined all the rest of them in the early 1980s foreign debt collapse.

RW Latin dictatorships took on colossal foreign debts in the '70s - which they then mostly used to finance mass dollarizing and offshoring by their own elites (as well as foreign speculators).

Many of these countries never fully recovered from the collapse that followed - akin to our 2008 Bush calamity (but without a powerful Fed to bail them out).

The few that did recover, either had large-scale, exportable resource riches (Chile) - or became money laundering/drug trafficking hubs (Panama and the Dominican Republic).

Some had the resource riches (like Venezuela) or turned to trafficking and laundering (Honduras) - and still never recovered.

Cuba - at best - would've turned out like the Dominican Republic. Such that many would've later left anyway.

And they're certainly always better off here.

[Lovie777]

2. Think it is...........................

GQP have control over a lot of information being reported.

[peppertree]

4. And over the voting and tabulation machines (as well as the state legislature)

Florida, sadly, has long proven Stalin's maxim that "it's not who votes that counts - but who counts the votes."

Still - this year...

[bahboo]

7. how about the senate race?

[peppertree]

8. The Alien Racketeer is still 5% ahead of Debbie - but it's narrowing

https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/senate/general/2024/florida/scott-vs-mucarsel-powell

[bahboo]

9. thx for this....may have to send her some $$$...

[peppertree]

10. You're very welcome

How such a smug, felonious humanoid can be 5% ahead in anything - much less, have had such a career in politics - is beyond me.

He's the closest thing I've ever seen to "proof" of all those conspiracy theories you sometimes see on YouTube.

[bahboo]

11. and a Bat Boy lookalike....

I've been burned getting excited about Florida races before....last election for gov as an example. These numbers give me hope.

[peppertree]

12. You're not kidding!

He and Stephen Miller must be rejects from the same planet.

[Tarheel_Dem]

13. No. And we ask this question every election cycle, and the answer is still NO. n/t